Pros:
-There are so many reasons why Liberty could be one of my favorite courses. There's a ton of elevation, involving two extreme downhill shots and multiple valley holes that dive down more than thirty feet. The two extreme downhills are both wonderfully designed. #13 being a 555' and reachable par four because it's down more than 60' in elevation and #16 is Virginia's Dropshot! About 305' from the short and maybe 360' from the long and immediately downhill the whole way. I mean, WAAAAYYY downhill down a tight fairway of cedars, offering a view of the football field. This is one of the holes I saw when I was driving on the highway about to reach the exit before I got here. It's a great ace opportunity and it's over 300'.
-#8 is a very neat valley shot in the woods. Drops about thirty feet and rises up maybe a little more. The designated fairway offers enough room to throw a driver for players with less distance. It's about 315' and to the left side. #11 from the short pad was really cool too, in the open. Offers an even bigger valley than #8 and plays down what appears to be a pipeline. #15 was a nice longer bomb that's also a valley but plays primarily uphill with the path in play on the left side. The first hole is a smaller valley shot but is definitely one of the most creative ace runs. Throw under a canopy from the field by the parking lot.
-The mix of open and wooded really enhances the variety that Liberty has to offer. You have opportunities to bomb a driver very far like on #13-15 since they are long and open. There are some very tight wooded lines that are rewarding if they are hit on the front nine. For instance, #6. It's a tight tunnel shot with the short pad maybe about 250' and the long being only about 30' longer but being to the right side behind the short pad. It's tight but very fair.
-There are tee signs that are accurate with nice diagrams. The turf pads worked fine for me. I think most of the holes had two tee signs with the ones with two pads.
-Two pin positions on most holes.
Cons:
-The leaves. Like you would not believe. They are everywhere in the woods. The fallen leaves are ankle high the entire way on the front nine. They were stacked on top of one another and they covered up every fairway. The trees clearly have a ton of leaves, and more than other wooded courses because I've haven't seen this many leaves anywhere. It's almost a given that you will lose a disc here if you play in the fall. The open holes on the back nine do have rough wooded spots you could land in. I lost a shield on #13. Was a terrible shot, but I wouldn't have lost it if there weren't so many leaves. Reading the previous reviews, it's also pretty messy in the summer with vegetation. You'd probably be digging through some thorns to reach for your disc in some spots.
-#5 long. This hole is asking you to throw a wide hyzer down an extremely tight sharply left fairway down a big hill. The short pad offers a straight view, and it still is very tight from the short even. The long is bogus. The fairway is very tight regardless and takes you out of a small opening into the open instantly back uphill. If you were to hit the line, you would have to immediately turn right the second that your disc flies out of the woods because the opening is basically like a peninsula. And then turn sharply back left because the basket is far to the left side. If you throw straight out and land in the clear before the woods that are then straight ahead, you'll be out throwing steeply uphill directly facing the woods straight ahead of the clearing in which you landed. It's really hard to explain. You have to anhyzer really quick once you reach the clearing or else you are in the woods again because you threw it straight and hit the gap accurately. Could be a great hole with a more valid line to hit.
#11's long pad is ridiculous too. It's like 450+ to the basket and it has you throwing down an extremely low corridor. It's more of an "orifice" than a corridor, and was a real pain up my orifice. If you don't know what that is, look it up and you might know exactly what I mean by that. Granted, the hill declines not too far from the tee box, but it rises back up toward the end. It's impossible to reach unless leprechauns are real and regularly appear at Liberty riding down a rainbow. My drive on this hole suggested that that they are not real.
-#9, #18 and #19 from the longs are all are messy wooded holes that are either over 400' or they effectively play longer than 400'. #9 is about 390' and uphill probably 30-40' in elevation with tight lanes and a severely guarded basket by what maybe more than 50 trees to pass through. #18's long pad is really unapproachable. The line to reach this hole does not make any sort of sense. #19 is 472' and down a tight and crooked trail close to the edge of the ridge you are on. Big arms can try to throw a hyzer over the trees on the ridge and risk not making it back across because, well, there are so many retention trees that can stop a hyzer from crossing back over. This hole does give quite a view, and yes it could be an awesome hole, but being that long of a par three with as much lost disc potential, the extreme unlikelihood of even coming close to having a half sort of birdie look, and the growing of the trees you hyzer over makes it a real bust. I would've loved to see a hole that gives a great view of the campus on an elevated ridge without having to throw up instantly above hundreds of trees. It'd be too generous to even call these holes tweeners. They are too hard to be a 3.5 par or whatever you may call a tweener. I like long and challenging par threes, but not when they have weird lines along with being more than 400'.
-Some of the walks can get extremely slick when wet. I tripped a few times. While we are at it, the course could use more benches. There are a few but not many.
Other Thoughts:
-I was honestly very disappointed. I love courses with extreme elevation and a fair mix of open and wooded. Usually if a course is hilly and about 50-70% wooded, it'll be a 4 at the least but Liberty was a let down. It could be a whole lot better than what it is. Several fairways don't make sense, there were a few bland open holes which weren't fun either but were a breath of fresh air from all the small cracks I failed to throw through and the constant searching under leaves. #20 isn't a great hole, but it's a nice birdie opportunity because it's straight, open, and not as long as some of the holes here.
-If you decide to play here, I pretty much know for sure that you'll have more fun playing the short pads with the exception of #8, 12, 13, and maybe #6 and #20. #16 I think has a long pad further up the hill that you throw off in the woods. There was a flat service that appeared to have a faded print from what would possibly be a missing turf tee pad. That was a very fun shot too. I really enjoyed this hole and threw many putters on it. For the rest of it, play the whites. They will likely spare you from feeling like Eeyore.
-I know for sure that you'll love a least a couple of holes here if you decide to play it, and the ones you'll love you will remember. It does have some special hole quality that'll make you remember those holes but aside from that, this course isn't too great.....
-I thought it would be a WHOLE lot better than this. It's an okay course with some great holes I will safely say but it really falls FAR behind on some ground expectations for a course with 20 holes. It could be a real destination course. I signed up for a tournament at Mayflower Hills (a destination course for sure) and thought Liberty would be well worth the hour drive from my hotel but I wish I played somewhere else for the most part. Luckily, I got to play Greenfield a couple days later and that is an awesome course!