Monroe, WA

Tall Firs DGC

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PHDParrot
Experience: 14 played 11 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Very beautiful and fun 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 23, 2021 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Beautiful, open greens and great scenery! Some holes that are largely long and open still manage to be interesting with some quirks and elevation changes. Multiple pads make for solid gameplay in any group.

Cons:

Nitpicking, but when the clubhouse was open, the people there weren't very helpful and seemed a bit snobby. Hole 15 could use a major redesign.

Other Thoughts:

Pars are overly forgiving. There's a greens fee so bring cash. Tight course so watch for flying discs.
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Breh
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 14.4 years 193 played 191 reviews
3.50 star(s)

2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 25, 2019 Played the course:once

Pros:

I don't know where to begin with this John hauck designed course. I really wish they did quarter ratings because it's more of a 3.75 then 3.5. It's got an amazing sign when you pull in just like a regular golf course. It's got a very friendly pro shop with selection of disc " mainly west side " available. It's got red and blue tees for am/pro players. The course itself is very well maintained and virtually impossible to lose a disc, unless you throw one in the pond on the backside I think hole 15 or 16. It's got a good range of holes and distances from couple Ace runs to a par 5 and plenty of par 4s if playing from blues. Nice tee signs and baskets are in great shape. Tee pads are plenty long enough for the run ups you'll need. It's truly a good course, on a good property for disc golf. Great use of the trees they do have.

Cons:

I only have a few knocks with tall firs, I feel the fairways could be a little more defined with steaks or something marking the ob lines, and separating the fairways. It's obvious on most holes but some markings wouldn't hurt on a couple others. Navigation can get a tiny tricky. I played with local and we still accidentally skipped from hole 9 to 13 kinda easy to miss some holes if you haven't been there. Some private property lines make you walk a few extra 100 feet instead of easier path to the next hole but I understand those. I really wish they had little steaks up showing the ob but I'm being picky.

Other Thoughts:

5 dollars to play but the upkeep is for sure worth the price.
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Josh Heideman
Experience: 13.8 years 37 played 10 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Little dis apointed. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Mar 9, 2018 Played the course:once

Pros:

Good baskets, nice tee pads, 2 different tee pads.

Cons:

The par on reds is a bit weird. With some 300 foot par 3's. I played doubles and my team shot -17 and I thought it was a good score. Nope -22 won it!?!?
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Designer response by johnrhouck
Josh, let me try to clarify how Tall Firs is designed. I agree with you that -17, much less -22, seems kind of silly. That's because the Red tees are really designed for beginners, and the par listed is beginner par. I noticed from the PDGA website that you started playing Advanced late last year. So I would say that for an experienced player like you, it's not just that the pars are weird -- the HOLES are weird. All the par fours will be 'tweeners (shot-and-a-half holes) for guys like you.

I would think you'd find the Blue tees to be a more appropriate challenge. I have talked to Paul, the owner, about someday putting in White tees (in between Red and Blue), which might even be better for you. As for 300' par threes, I'm not sure what you mean. From the Reds the par threes are all give or take 200', and the par fours are all give or take 400' (except for the uphill holes).

I'd love to hear what you think of the Blue tees, and maybe you'll reconsider your low rating. Thanks.
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Schreuds2.0
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 7.4 years 93 played 81 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Very Professional feeling 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Nov 19, 2017 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Each individual hole is though out very very well and it is very fun to play. This course punishes bad throws, but not to the point where it is impossible to save par. Some courses I feel like I'm just practicing, but this course I had to PLAY. I played the red tees and I had a good time and a god challenge. If you are anything less than an experienced intermediate player, you should play the first time from red tees and then from the blue, because from what I saw, the blue is considerably more difficult. This course appears to be on an old ball golf course which is an interesting change of scenery for me.

Cons:

This course is pretty easy to navigate, the front 9 is separated from the back 9 but that doesn't make anything super difficult. The holes are right next to one another with minimal separation, so if you throw askew you may have interrupted someone else's game. While this is the case with pretty much every course, it is especially true here because of how crammed it is.

Other Thoughts:

I am a teenager, I don't need a parent signature to play on this course. But when I went to play with my younger cousin (and not his mom) we had to drive his mom out and back. Bit of a pain but understandable. Please be respectful of the neighborhood around this course so players can continue to play this great course!
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swiftblink
Experience: 43 played 3 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Fun course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 13, 2017 Played the course:once

Pros:

Very well maintained
Pro shop with some discs and drinks for purchase
Many holes present ace run options

Cons:

Very tight course, some greens are right on top of each other
Some of the longer holes should probably be par 3 given the lack of challenges/Obstacles

Other Thoughts:

This course is about a 45 minute drive from my house... if it were free(The green fee is very reasonable, I just have courses that are closer and free), closer, or a little more spread out I could see myself playing it often... it has a lot of potential, and they did an awesome job with the space they had available.
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Treeplant
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 9.4 years 118 played 65 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Good Shot Variety, Intuitively Laid Out, Very Professional 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Mar 29, 2017 Played the course:once

Pros:

This is not an overly technical course in the sense of it being densely wooded, lots of elevation, or lots of hazards etc. If you are expecting an "epic" course, this is not it. That said, it is a very solid, professional-feeling disc golf course that gives you the chance to work on a variety of shots.

- Excellent signage.

- Excellent tee pads, with the reds being a beginner/amateur level pad and the blues being for more experienced players. You don't need to be advanced/open to play the blues like some courses, rec or intermediate players can handle the blues no problem.

- Great little pro shop with friendly staff and decent Dynamic Disc gear and disc selection (No Discraft or Innova as of April 2017) and good beer selection.

- Apparently a great place for small, local course events etc. though we were just passing through and played ourselves.

- $5 to play is very reasonable.

- It's a former ball golf course, so it's got great drainage and it's generally pretty open, you're not going to worry about losing discs and you'll be dry unless it's monsoon season or something. We played end of March after a few days of rain in running shoes no problem.

- As someone who throws thumbers, tomahawks, forehand flicks and RHBH drives, I loved the fact that I got to pull pretty much every shot out of the bag on this course. Good mix of easy ace runs, wooded corridor shots, wide open drives, dog legs, with a few minor hazards thrown in to challenge players.

- Hazards/adjacent housing are obvious when they're potentially in play and you're not forced to throw anything towards a backyard/water hazard that wasn't clear. You can easily play it safe if you want to, there aren't any situations where you feel like you need to play it overly safe because the hole was laid out too dangerously.


Cons:

- When they designed the course they put in a lot of saplings that won't have their true impact felt for another decade or so. Still a great course, but it's in its infancy.

- I'm not sure 18 holes is the best size for the course. For business reasons I understand the necessity of having 18 holes, but if this were my personal course I would have done 12-14 holes with the space. A few of the holes feel like they're filler holes, but it's not enough of a negative to detract from the overall experience and let's be honest, who doesn't like a few super easy 200-250' ace runs?

Other Thoughts:

As a former ball golfer, I love this course for being a truly converted disc golf course. Tall Firs is a former ball golf course that is legitimately converted to disc golf, and they did as good of a job as they could with the space and vegetation available to them. Would play this over a ball golf course with baskets on it any day of the week.

Definitely worth checking out, I'd love to see more courses like this pop up!

I think this course is about a 3.75, I gave it a 4 as I felt a few of the ratings were a little too low and the average could be brought up.
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Hector Chain
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 16.4 years 222 played 191 reviews
3.50 star(s)

It's tall fir one, and one fir tall 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 20, 2016 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Look, I know John Houck gets more than his share of love. He's the only designer that I or many other players could even name. But he got that reputation for a reason, and it shows here. This is a former ball golf course that easily could have been turned into a crappy, unimaginative course.

Hole 13 is the best example of this. I would not have thought to take this massive portion of the course and make it one hole, but it's a great multi-throw hole. Your drive needs a hyzer between some of the signature tall firs to the landing area, and all-out distance will not necessarily be rewarded. Then there is a left-to right angling fairway to the pin on a ridge and behind a guardian tree. On, and the fairway slopes downhill toward a pond. There aren't a lot of 900-foot holes that I would applaud, but this is one of them.

Other fun holes include 3 (a long drive down an alley of the firs) and 10 (a forehand with two routes to a basket on a hill). As always with his designs, holes tend to have landing zones, so you need to think where you want to put the disc, not just how far you can bomb it.

There are two concrete tees on most holes. I played both. The blues do more than just add distance, usually forcing a drive between several trees or making a turn more difficult.

The course generally avoids the most boring hole in disc golf: the 350' semi-open hole. The majority of players will never birdie that hole and rarely bogey it, making it a real yawn. I don't remember any of them here.

The signage is the type you see on most Houck courses, showing all the ways to get to the hole.

Cons:

A lot of the course is fairly open. They have planted coniferous trees in the fairways. They are generally tall enough so that you can't throw right over them, but not enough to dramatically change the hole.

The limited size and the openness also limit the impact of great design in some spots. While I like the mix of long multi-throw holes (550+) and short holes (under 300), there seemed to be more than a few really short holes shoe horned in.

One hole I have mixed feelings on: 15. It's a very short (175' or so) downhill shot, but the basket is just past a little ridge that leads down to a lake. Losing a disc here seems pretty likely if you play enough. That said, I really had to think whether I could trust a forehand hyzer or backhand hyzer to lay down, and you could do a wimpy lay up for 3 if you were really worried about it.

Other Thoughts:

The pro shop sells good beer that you can carry with you (no bringing your own) and has complimentary water and coffee.

I struggled with whether to give this 3.0 or 3.5. When the trees grow in 5-10 years from now, it will be a different course. For now, they made the most of what they have, and it's well worth a visit.
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shawnc65
Experience: 11.6 years 22 played 5 reviews
3.50 star(s)

A fine addition to a play list 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 31, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

Finely manicured fairways with carefully contrived basket locations help generate interest for what is a relatively flat piece of land with little obstruction. The sparse "Tall Firs" are utilized to high potential and effect a good half dozen nifty holes. The placement of the short and long tees provide excellent leveling of distance skills if not changing the course a great deal for a second round.

Cons:

I have few negative thoughts. I am glad it is not the closest course to my house as I'm sceptical it would hold up to many repeated rounds, and while it is clear the green fee is being put to use on the course that would be a detriment as well. As an occasional day trip or to fill out your playlist it is definitely a go.

Other Thoughts:

It was immediately clear upon arival that I could leave my hiking boots and long pants in the car. Some days that could fit the pro or con category. Having spent so much time lately in trees with heavy underbrush today it was a pleasant respite. The course map makes it look jammed tightly together and it is, but I spent the whole front 9 as part of the third of four groups and despite some errant launches all around there were few that caused dangers or delays. I believe the course is deliberately layed out to keep that to a minimum.
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Dadio
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 40.2 years 174 played 75 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Still Disappointed 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:May 23, 2018 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

This course, about 1/2 hr east of Everett, is on one of the oldest ball golf courses in Washington, recently bought and converted to disc golf. It is fairly well laid out on the space available, which is less than I expected having played other converted courses.

There are some cool holes, like 2 which is a tight tunnel shot to the pin on a hillside. Despite this being one of the shortest holes and my good tee shot I still had a double bogey(hit the basket and rolled downhill twice). I appreciate holes like that. Hole 15 is a short downhill shot with an OB pond behind it that gets into your head.

The Pro Shop was very nice, the guy working it was very polite and knowledgeable with loaner discs to try, there are a couple Westside discs I will get because of him.

Cons:

While I enjoyed playing there, I must say I expected more. A Houck designed course with a ball golf course worth of area to work with, must be epic!

I admit, I played the shorter tees so didn't see all the course had to offer but having played a number of high end courses this one seemed to offer little but long mostly open holes with little risk. The few OBs mean you probably lost a disc, while most shots can go pretty errant w/o going OB.

That being said, there are a number of holes that are dangerously tight, 2 and 3 are separated only by a net,(2018 update: net gone, this area is dangerous) my drive on 6 crossed the tee for 8 w/o being OB, and 8 and 9 are close enough that a bad shot is well into the other fairway.

One good place for a tight OB on a hole is 5, supposedly the path just past the hole is OB, but I was told they extend the green in a 30' circle which crosses the path.

Some of the holes are a little hard to figure where to go, either path to pin or where next tee is, even with map. 10 and 11 were the worst.

What bothered me the most was the par. 63 may be reasonable for the long course(still seems about 3 high) but it is the same for the red tees and that is way too high for a 5.6k ft course. I shot a 60, reasonable score, but it bugged me that it was a 3 under. By my 6th birdie on 18 it wasn't a joyous occasion as it should be but depressing as it felt unearned. My daughter, who has played many courses with me over the years, felt the same.

2018 update: tee signs missing on many holes and pro shop closed despite calls to owner and waiting for 45 min to an hour. makes it hard to feel it is worth the $5. Charging sets expectations higher.

Other Thoughts:

This is an interesting course that I mostly enjoyed and will play again but I had high hopes that it didn't meet. This course is worth hitting while in the Seattle area but there 5 others I'ld hit first if time was limited.

One thing in it's favor, they planted a ton of trees that will make this a much more interesting course in 10 or so years. I'll revisit this review as necessary

2018 update: I've been told by many people "play the blue tees, that's where the course shines!" I did that today and my opinion of this course hasn't changed. I didn't throw particularly well and was only +5, too low for a 7000ft 'pro' course. Too many easy par threes, and I had a shot @ par on the 900ft par5 even with 2 bad throws. This is a course with a feel good par, not what I'm looking for for $5. Still an ok course but I have fundamental philosophical differences on design. In the future I'll play a closer course that doesn't charge unless I'm with someone that REALLY wants to play here.
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Designer response by johnrhouck
Hi, Edgar. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the course. As far as the par and the openness from the Red tees, here's a quick explanation: since we expected a lot of new players to take up the game at Tall Firs, we decided to add the Red tees primarily for beginners. So the par for those holes is really beginner par, and the distances are really beginner distances. That does create some "tweener" holes for experienced players, especially on the par fours. As you noted, those holes are also more open, as I wasn't looking to make it too tight for new players. So currently we recommend the Blue tees for all experienced players.For people who find the Red tees too easy and the Blue tees too challenging, we have been discussing adding a set of White tees in the middle that would be more appropriate for that skill level. Hoping we may be able to pull that off before the end of the year. Thanks, John
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jswoods1984
Experience: 23.6 years 75 played 5 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Open 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 7, 2016 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This course is what you want if you're looking for a wide open space to throw long drives. You can really open up your arm on most of the holes. Paul is a really nice guy and provides quality coffee as well as loaner discs for people who are interested. Has an onsite pro shop. The course is always well groomed.

Cons:

Again, this course is for the long arm players that just want to rip it, which is ok, but I personally enjoy more wooded courses with obstacles that you have to work around rather than a furthest drive competition. The $5/day admission isn't bad, but I feel like there should be an annual pass for those who would like to frequent the course. There are safety hazards on this course when you have a fair amount of players on the field, multiple people have been hit from drives and many near misses that could have caused serious injury. Must buy beer at the pro shop, which is for legal reasons, but the beer is a bit spendy if you're looking to spend the day out there.

Other Thoughts:

Overall this is an alright course. If you're doing some field work, it's great, but for a golfer like me who likes a little more variety and enjoys obstacles, this is not a must see destination course. Hopefully once the new trees grow in it will have some more character, but I will say that Paul and John Houck did what they could given the piece of land they are using.
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TheMinnesotan
Experience: 14.5 years 25 played 4 reviews
5.00 star(s)

PLAY THIS COURSE! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 13, 2014 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

-Accessibility: This course is great for all kinds of players.

-Shot/hole types: Tall Firs offers a variety of shot options, forcing players to really "think" about their shots. The course also offers varying hole lengths from short ace run par 3s to a towering par 5 that will mandate perfection from any tee in order to birdie.

-Navigation: The course is easy to maneuver. Baskets are marked with tall yellow flags on top. The tee pad signage is some of the best I have ever seen with clearly marked OB and mandos. The fairways are cut well from tee to basket and give players a clear picture of each hole.

-Atmosphere: The course is CLEAN! You will not find trash laying around this property. The staff and local players are friendly and respectful.

-Events: this was not a "set it and forget it" course as one finds with many city parks. This course is constantly holding events from glow nights to random doubles (Saturdays). There is always something going on!

-Pro Shop: Fully stocked with Westside Discs! I had never thrown Westside before so I took out one of the free loner discs (pretty much every mold is available to try) for a round and I am now a believer! The gentleman who runs the property is extremely friendly and shows a true love for the game. If you play the course make sure to stop in and say hi, you will not be disappointed!

-Parking: The property has its own parking lot that is at very minimal risk of catching a stray disc.

-Coffee: the free coffee is always hot!

Cons:

-Open spaces: Much of the front 9 is wide open with few obstacles. With that said, all we have to do for this to change is wait. Many trees have been planted in what will end up being very tricky locations throughout the course. This course will get harder as time goes on.

Other Thoughts:

I grew up playing ball golf. I played on my high school team, worked at the local course, and played in numerous leagues. Tall Firs has all of the amenities that I came to love about ball golf. I play better at Tall Firs because of the professional atmosphere. This course really aims to have a player "think" about each hole adding a whole other element to the round. Sometimes the best line is not blatantly obvious. This is not some city park where you have to clear beer cans from your lie. This is a well manicured course that will challenge and excite players of all skill levels all while holding the sport to the highest standard of excellence.

The $5 greens fee for all day play is well worth it!
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forehandfranz
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 32.4 years 226 played 128 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Finally, a great course on the Eastside! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Oct 6, 2014 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Started off the morning round with a thermal coffee pot and condiments waiting for us out on the registration table! Now that's a first class welcome.

They converted this from an old ball golf course and went and planted dozens and dozens of cedar trees to help shape the course. It's a pretty piece of land that will certainly mature into a better course over time.

Giant fir trees are scattered about the land and one hole has a nice little pond that is the backdrop for a short downhill hole that you will want to run the ace, but probably shouldn't! The course is well manicured with large fairways with nice tall grass dividing fairways. The tall grass is fair ground, but the neighboring fairways are OB. The course has a lot of joy for long arms, but enough short ones to balance things out. I thought the designer (Houck) did a nice job with the land.

The dual tees were a very nice touch -making a big difference in challenge from long to short. Hole #3 is special - the short tee starts at the beginning of an alley of "Tall Firs", but the long tee starts around 100 feet further, making the firs like a double mando bottleneck. It takes an already interesting hole to another (but tougher) level.

Pins were often placed on little hills to make the putts nerve wracking.

Cons:

This is not a con so much as a wish - for those little cedar trees to mature. Some of the holes were a bit too wide open for my likes. Just not enough obstacles on some holes to punish errant shots. Honestly, I thought the tall grass should be OB until many trees mature.

Other Thoughts:

The hospitality by Paul was exceptional. He sells discs in his pro shop and will even let you test drive the molds during your visit!

This course reminds me of the video I saw of the Worlds at Chili in Rochester in 1999. A lot of open holes there but they planted tons of trees there and built mounds to place pins on to add to the challenge in the present and future. The pros seemed to be throwing one big hyzer bomb after the other because there were not enough tall trees to go around. Ironically, this courses designer (John Houck) was commentating the coverage and probably thought of Chili when he designed Tall Firs.
As trees mature this course should get even better. I originally rated the course a 4 for style points, but it really is a 3.5 at the moment for me.
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World Eater
Experience: 10.6 years 20 played 3 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Long fairways are big fun 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 9, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

Tall Firs in Monroe, Wa is a premier, dedicated 18 hole disc golf course from one of the worlds best designers, John Houck. It is a different world from your city park style. Its truly wonderful to play a big beautiful course without randoms walking dogs or berserk children running through your line. Worth $5 every time.

• Signage is very good.
• Concrete tee pads.
• Most holes have blue and red tees.
• Good shot variety.
• Lots of long and wide open which is fun, and great for practicing distance lines on the course.
• Great pro shop full of trilogy plastic with loaners that you can try before you buy.
• Paul Clark is a tremendous host and does an incredible job maintaining and improving this young course.

Cons:

• Some fairway overlap, but not a big issue.
• Long tee 5 gets wet and can be slippery which is a bummer because its a long fun drive when its dry.
• Some of the Red tee pads should be longer. Some of the Red pad positions are still over 400' so no reason to be shorter than the blues.

Other Thoughts:

This could be a pro or con depending on what you're looking for, but right now this course isnt the most challenging.

As the flora grows in and the pine sprouts turn in to great big trees the challenge of the course will grow.

For now, for me anyway, its a nice place to practice distance and have a fun, less frustrating day of DG.
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01guin
Experience: 11.5 years 43 played 8 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Excellent repurposed ball golf course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 23, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

+ Excellent signage
+ Multiple tees on many holes
+ Pro shop on site has free coffee and loaner umbrellas
+ New DISCatcher baskets
+ Good variety of hole lengths
+ Some slight elevation changes
+ A few wooded holes
+ Wide fairways invite you to drive with all your might on the 500+ft par 4s
+ Visually appealing with the rolling hills, roughs, and occasional trees
+ Definitely worth the $5

Cons:

- Not very challenging regarding shot variety--many holes are just wide open grass from tee to basket and the wooded holes have generous gaps
- I didn't mind the lack of benches as our group never had to wait, but it's true that there was no place to sit
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pnwooki
Experience: 10.4 years 4 played 4 reviews
4.00 star(s)

First round 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 19, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

so everything is pretty great about this course
-mix of short technical and long let it fly tees
-lots of tees actually had a red and blue tee pad!
-every tee box has a map of the basket
-every basket has a flag and is clearly marked
-the roller net along the little pond is great kept my putter out of the weeds
-the $5 all day play fee is great, i am more than down to pay some guy for his time to make sure that I don't loose my disc is the weeds and that the baskets are clearly marked

Cons:

-course flora needs a couple of years to reach maturity
-benches would be nice along a couple of spots
-a map at the beginning of the back 9 would be good its kind of confusing finding 10 on the side of the barn
-a net around the septic tank plot would be pretty cool...just saying

Other Thoughts:

great course! the guy running the pro shop is super friendly, always willing the chat and talk about throwing discs and will probably go out for a few holes with you.
the pro shop could use some more variety but I'm sure that will come with time.
i got there early and there was even free coffee!
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GarrettDN
Experience: 27.4 years 31 played 1 reviews
5.00 star(s)

Wow. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 27, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

Just a fantastic course. Thoughtfully laid out, lefty and righty mix, long and short, legitimate par 3, 4, and 5 holes, positively identifiable fairways (!)....the design is really great.
I usually find myself craving a longer course. This one made me feel like a cross of disc and ball golf, where you legitiamtely don't just drive and put.
This course will get much harder as the (freshly installed) trees mature.
Highly recommend playing.
Of note, they are fixing some of the gripes in other reviews: baskets are now labeled, there were maps out at the sign up so the jump to tee ten was no biggie.

Cons:

Benches would be sweet, and the pad for 10 is kind of in the way for 3.

Other Thoughts:

I drove about an hour. Well worth it. Layout wise this is one of the best, if not the absolute best, I have played.
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The Valkyrie Kid
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 46.4 years 1562 played 1507 reviews
4.00 star(s)

John Houck Designed Course Is Worth The $5! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 25, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

Everything about this course has been done first class with seemingly no expense spared. After playing the new course across town being built on a shoe string budget, this place felt like the Taj Mahal.
The course sits on the property of an old ball golf course just over a mile outside of Monroe. The property features a semi-well stocked Pro Shop and I understand a Bistro is in the works. The loaner box is a great idea if you want to try out a disc before buying. The $5 fee for unlimited all day play is more than reasonable. There is a red metal box for your donation if the Pro Shop is locked. Parking is plentiful and picnic tables are provided are the warm up area. There is also a fire pit for those chilly NW evenings.
There are two sets of tee pads. The blue were over-sized trapazoid shaped, concrete. The reds were concrete with a couple of rubber matted ones.
The signs were wonderful,John Houck design.
Houck did use every bit of the property to the fullest. The terrain is mostly flat with a touch of elevation and two holding ponds for water run off. These are both used to the max with the # 15 basket being placed right in front of the pond adding a slight pucker factor to that otherwise short easy downhill throw and then you have a fairly easy carry over the other pond on # 16.
75 trees have been planted on the property. I believe they're mostly Cedar (they're extremely grabby) and as they mature, they'll greatly add to the course's over-all challenge.
To add some challenge, Houck often has you teeing off through an initial tight opening. I think six of the first nine holes feature this aspect. Frankly, I found it a little tedious.
The course is fairly long, Par 63 from the Blues, but not overly difficult. Even from the longer Blues, it doesn't compare in difficulty to Sea Tac, Shelton or Steilacoom.
# 13 with it's it's 909' length, right dogleg, Mandos and trees was a challenging hole for a old duffer such as myself.

Cons:

I followed a group ahead of me so didn't have to concern myself with about navigation issues but there are a few. The long walkout from 9 to the red barn for # 10.
Blue # 6 is confusing. looking out from the tee box, you see three baskets including one straight ahead just past the big fir tree. Wrong, You're throwing to the basket to the right!
Walking up to hole ? while players were throwing down # 10, I almost got drilled. Keep your eyes open here guys.
Some benches would be great and I'm sure they're forthcoming.
A sani-can would be nice over by the red building. I kept looking for a place to go and almost everywhere is visible from the surrounding houses.

Other Thoughts:

What a great addition to Washington's stable of courses. Thank you John Houck for your design and to Paul Clark for making this happen. My only selfish thought is, I wish they could have built it in Pierce County somewhere.
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Experience: 14.3 years 66 played 61 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Worth the drive and the money 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 25, 2014 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

It took well over a year of rumors and false start dates for it to happen, but the rumors turned out to be true. John Houck was designing a pay to play course in Monroe, and it was going to be a doozy. I chose to avoid the crowds of opening weekend and instead sat in fair traffic on a Monday to get my rounds in. I've gotta say: I'm impressed.

Houck clearly knows what he's doing. To those uneducated in the world of disc golf course design, the man is a legend. This was the first Houck course that I've played (to my knowledge), but if it's any indication of what he does? I definitely want to play some others. So about those pros:

Equipment - The baskets are fresh out of the box, so no complaints here. It seems that the DisCatcher has gotten deeper, but it catches just as well. Putting tall flags on top of each one was great as well. A friend of mine had his high putts stopped by those flag poles at least three times today, but that isn't why they're great. They just make the baskets easier to spot on those longer holes.

Teepads - The teepads on the blue tees are impeccable. They start out wide in the back and taper to a normal width at the front, so the player has a multitude of options for how to approach their drive. The red tees were okay, but clearly weren't the prime focus when everything was being installed. All of the pads were textured, with the exception of the two rubber pads on the course (both red tees). You won't have to worry about grip even on the rainiest of days.

Signage - The signs are beautiful and offer a good idea of where you're throwing. I would have almost preferred satellite images, but these are beautiful. Every sign also gives credit to John Houck as the course designer.

Variation - Houck used every inch of the land here, and it never gets repetitive. You have your longer holes like 1 and 18, your uber long holes like 13, and some stupidly short holes like 4. The easy holes that are randomly thrown into the round allow you to either drive your score down or get your feet back under you after a bad hole or two. I like the variation. We don't need another SeaTac (original 18). He also brings the elevation into play whenever possible, places baskets on sloped greens, and even places one right beside the pond. Hole 15 might be my favorite one on the course just because of the risk/reward ratio. It's an easy ace run, but with the pond right behind it and downhill it's just plain fun. You also get to throw across the pond on the blue 16, but it isn't really a challenging throw. Think hole 1 at Lakewood. Of course there are shots for all types as well. Right and left turning, long S-curves, big hyzer lines, short hyzer lines, etc. There's also a decent amount of variety between the red and blue tees. Even the ones that are only a few feet apart offer different looks around trees or bushes.

Design - I've pretty well covered the design already. I do have to say that I like the inclusion of so many mandos and OB though. Otherwise it would be a fairly open course and would get boring. Having these also makes shot placement much more important than it otherwise would be. It's obvious that the designers had a big budget here. A lot of the fairways that would have just been stupidly open have trees freshly planted in them. Once these trees grow in it will really add complexity to this course.

Amenities - The pro shop lacks variety in discs. If you don't throw Prodiscus or Westside you're out of luck. But it's there, it sells beverages and some snacks, and even has a "loaner box" which I've never seen before. He also has tester discs if you want to try before you buy. The course has bathrooms and three practice baskets (two are hidden over by the 13 teepad). My favorite feature on the course was probably the kids selling water, granola bars, and Gatorade out of their backyard by 14. They saw a need and filled it. I fully endorse supporting them even if they have nothing to do with the course at all.

Cons:

You probably didn't think I'd ever get to the cons, did you? Well I have. And they're here. It's a new course, so I'm sure that many of these will be fixed in time. But they must be pointed out anyway. Keep in mind that I don't allow some of these "cons" to affect my rating (cost, lack of certain amenities, etc), but I still include them because I try to review this for any reader... Not just hardcore discers. So I'll start with those that don't affect the rating:

Cost - Tall Firs is absolutely worth $5 a day. You can pay, play, leave, and come back without being charged again. The grounds are in great shape, and as long as they stay that way I won't have a problem with paying. It's only when you're charged to play and upkeep suffers that I have a problem with it. Being charged is not a con. If you think it is, go somewhere else.

Amenities - Being a pay to play course, I would expect some basic services to be provided, like trash cans and benches. I'm sure that this will be fixed in time, but as of right now the course is trash can free (not trash free sadly) and bench free. The bathrooms are by the pro shop, but we didn't notice that until we'd complained about peeing on a tree or five. So remember that they're there.

Now on to the real cons (many of which are included in "pros" too):

Equipment - The course is three days old and a few of the baskets are already askew. I don't know who's been climbing on them, but knock it off! Whoever runs the place should do equipment checks at least weekly to make sure that everything is still pristine. I hope that they do.

Teepads - I have no complaints about the blue tees. The red ones really do seem like an afterthought though, and many of them are too short. Take hole 13 for example: It's "short" at 700+'. We still need a decent runup for a shot like that, so why not provide a full length teepad?

Navigation - While all of the signs are lovely and there are maps available at the pro shop, navigation was a chore at times. None of the baskets are marked with anything other than the Innova logo, and none of them have tape to guide you to the next hole either. It's relatively easy to find your way around, but tape and numbers would go a long way. Throwing a disc in the general direction of three unmarked baskets can be a bit maddening for a first timer. It would also help if the rough, mandos, and OB were more clearly marked. I'm sure that over time the rough will grow in more and be more obvious, but right now it's hard to tell where you aren't supposed to throw without walking the full hole in advance.

Flow - The course flows really well overall. There are a few unnecessarily long walkouts though. While these walkouts lead to some fun holes, they still have to be noted. The walk from 9 to 10 is the most confusing. See my "Other Thoughts" for tips on that.

Other Thoughts:

Just a few tips:

-There's a red metal box by the pro shop for you to pay if nobody is there. It's on the honor system, but do it. We want to keep this course. So bring cash just in case there's nobody there.

-The walkout from 9 to 10: If you're at the 9 basket, look to your left along the fence and then follow that asphalt path. You'll see that red building by the 3 fairway. The 10 tee is right there (red and blue combined).

-The walkout from 12 to 13: If you're playing the blue, cut through the parking lot toward those random baskets over there. You'll see the teepad just on the other side of the parking lot. If you're playing the red, just walk straight past the basket that's just past 12. That's 18. You can see the teepad ahead of you and slightly to your left.

-The walkout from 15 to 16: Go counterclockwise around the pond to the blue, and clockwise to the red. Blue is way more fun.

This course is great for the area. It offers something for every level of player except complete beginners. Being in Monroe (a haul from just about anywhere) and being pay to play means that it won't get overcrowded by those players who have no regard for anything. You know who I'm talking about: The people who take over the course, carry two discs in a shopping bag, throw their trash on the ground, and refuse to acknowledge that anyone else is there. Those people won't frequent this course, and I love that. Is it the best course I've ever played? Not by a long shot. But it finally gives us people up north somewhere to play and improve our overall game (short, long, open, technical, etc) without having to drive all the way to Sedro Wooley, Lakewood, or Stilly. I'll definitely be back.

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Experience: 13.3 years 16 played 1 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Beer is Allowed! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Sep 27, 2014 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

*They sell beer in the pro shop. The course is considered a golf course, so beer is allowed in the pro shop and on the course. No beer in the parking lot or at the picnic benches.
*Night disc golf. They sell the little LED lights for your disc. The first 9 holes are playable, with lighted baskets and tee pads. Quarter moon last night, so it was tough to navigate. I'd suggest playing in the daylight first so you know the course. It is really nice having a night disc golf place already set up and ready to play. It's surprisingly easier to find your discs at night.
*Brand new Innova baskets with flags
*3 practice baskets. Two near the pro shop. One other by the blue 13th tee box on the other side of the pro shop building.
*Driving practice net. You can huck your discs and not have to chase them!
*Great signage and concrete tees (some rubber mats).

Cons:

*Blue hole six is confusing. It looks like you're shooting at the basket under the big tree, but its the basket to the right of that big tree (there is a red maple 100-150' in front of it)14
*No benches. Opening weekend, there was some waiting time when teeing off. I might need to invest in a chair. Some shade can be found near most tees.
*It can be dangerous when walking from hole 9 to 10 on the cart path. Blue tee #1 drives across that cart path. *New route from 9 takes you to the parking lot and proshop. Then you can take a safe route to 10.

Other Thoughts:

*$5 green fees per day. You can come and go as you please and you can play as many rounds as you want.
*Night DG on Saturday nights.
*Weekly random doubles at 10:15 on Saturday mornings. $12 entry fee (includes the greens fees)
*Facebook page for updates.
*Has a "Links" course feel. Fairways are in full view of each other.
The course has a feel of Lakewood (West Seattle) old golf course with rolling fairways, water hazards and sandtraps. Short open and wooded holes like Howling Coyote and Silver Lake. Great course, it will get tougher as the trees grow up.

I had a great time! I only played the red tees and scored pretty well. Blue tees are next!
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Experience: 12.7 years 4 played 4 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Worth the Price of Admission 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 23, 2014 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Tall Firs has something for everyone. Red Tees for beginners and rec players. Blue Tees for the intermediate and up. It's got length which is unique compared to surrounding courses. Tight tree lines, winding open Par 4's, an epic Par 5. I was expecting it to be longer to be honest, but John Houck has designed a course that rewards great shots and punishes bad ones. Every new course should subscribe to acheive that goal. Love the slopey pin locations too. Played 4 rounds and never got bored

Other Pros:
- $5 admission lets you play all day!
- Great Signage
- Flow of the course is easy to follow and doesn't put the surrounding homes in danger (Except a tiny bit on the Par 5 13, so be aware, don't be a hero and try to throw over homes or retrieve your disc from peoples yards)

- DISCatcher Baskets (Personal Favorite) with flags
- Outstanding Variety of Holes
- Pro Shop and Bistro under construction, looking forward to that!

Cons:

- The tight alleyway with Holes 2,3, and 10. Gets congested especially when it's crowded. Gotta keep your head on a swivel in these areas and be aware of other golfers.

- There's a walking path that cuts across about 4 fairways that goes from Hole 9 to 10. I'm sure they'll find a way to remedy this.

- Red tee Pars are a bit generous, but I love the fact these are designed to get beginners involved.

Other Thoughts:

It's a beautiful, challenging, and picturesque course, well worth the $5. The par 5 Hole 13 and par 4 16 over the pond are my personal favs.

Please be courteous to surrounding residents that border the course, to grow the sport we gotta show these people this is a legit sport.

Happy Huckin'
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