View Full Version : What Putter Do You Use?
Midnightbiker
11-11-2008, 07:14 PM
What putter do you use and why? How does you putter work for you?
swarren1977
11-11-2008, 09:43 PM
I love my Discraft Banger GT. There is something about that groove track that leads to a consistent release. I only wish it had a lower stability rating because of this the Aviar is a close second
valkyriefb11
11-11-2008, 10:32 PM
I currently have 2 Innova Aviar P&A that I use interchangably depending on the shot. (One is heavier than the other) So far the aviar P&A has been my most consistent putter.
I also have a soft pro Rhyno that I will sometimes use when I need an overstable putter. The one big upside about my rhyno is that it is soft which I do like ... After reading one of the other threads I think Im going to try an Omega SS out and see if I like it.
adam423
11-11-2008, 10:38 PM
I got a Birdie b/c it(some site) said it was good for beginners, but I don't really like it... Well, it doesn't bounce anywhere when it hits the ground, so thats good, but I just don't like the way putters feel, they're too thick. I've heard that the XD is more driver like, but I haven't seen one for myself.
I would just putt w/ a Roc, since I get it to fly less fluttery than the Birdie, but I keep the Birdie around for weird, high-arching hyzer/anhyzer shots since it rarely rolls off when it lands and b/c it drops with no fade at the end of its flight, so I figure I might as well putt with it too... I just need more practice at it.
ERicJ
11-11-2008, 10:41 PM
What putter do you use and why?
Omega SS 169-170. Because I bought one and liked it better than the Soft Magnet I was using, and it did better in a test round.
How does you putter work for you?
Not quite as often as I'd like it to.
ERic
valkyriefb11
11-11-2008, 10:53 PM
I got a Birdie b/c it(some site) said it was good for beginners
wow, I didnt think anyone used the birdie ... I threw it once and hated it before I threw it. Its just not a comfortable putter at all.
I've heard that the XD is more driver like, but I haven't seen one for myself
The XD is a bit more driver like ... I've used it and as a driver I can flip it very easily. As a putter it was a good disc, but a bit more understable than I was looking for. I actually used it more so as a midrange approach disc.
Heavy, 175g, DX Aviar P & A. Have five of the to practice with and they all act the same. Nice straight flyers and not too bouncy in the DX plastic. Don't use my Star Avair P & A for putts, just approaches. It's little more overstable and fades more. Plus the harder plastic deflects off of the chains more.
discinator
11-12-2008, 01:01 AM
I have two as well. max weight ss magic and 175 flx challenger. I really liked the magic, but since I drive with the putters whenever possible, it got beat in really fast. It is my turn over shot putter now. The challenger is my slightly overstable putter that I can really let loose with and still keep it straight on a line. I've gotta say that I really like the flx plastic. It is really consistent and can take quite a beating.
edge3281
11-12-2008, 01:03 AM
I use a the discraft soft APX. I have putted with it the most and really feel comfortable with it. I think the biggest thing with a putter is how does it feel in your hand and then just working with it enough that you know what it will do from different distances.
petecarp
11-12-2008, 01:08 AM
Gateway SuperSoft Proto Chalky Warlock. I wish they still made them considering i only have one.
Three Putt
11-12-2008, 04:02 AM
I've used Aviars mostly for the last 18 years or so. When I started playing the only players I knew who didn't putt with Aviars were old guys who still used a lid. I went back and forth between the big bead and the small bead. Finally I decided the big bead was more consistent for putting and drives into a wind and the small bead was better off the tee when you had no wind or a tail wind, so I carry both.
I tried understable putters like the 86 Softie, but they require too much touch. I would overpower them and flip them most of the time, so I gave up and went back to hyzer putting with an overstable putter.
I did putt with Magnets for a couple of years shortly after they came out. I liked Magnets a lot as a putter as they have a nice consistent and dependable fade at low speeds and are great for hyzer putts. They are not as good off the tee IMO, but if you can get some height on your throw they glide out to about the same distance. Eventually (and this is stupid but true) I got so many Aviars in players packs at tournaments that I had over 20 of them, and I only had three or four Magnets. Instead of paying money to get more Magnets, I just went back to Aviars since I had so many of them already. It's a pretty dumb way to pick your putter, but it is what it is.
I had Wizards in my bag most of this summer. If I can keep the nose down and throw the Wizard properly, it will crush an Aviar in distance off the tee. However, I stink and throw nose up all the time. The Aviar is more forgiving if you get the nose up and will still glide out for some decent D. The Wizard will hyzer out short if you get the nose up. The Wizard and big bead Aviar are almost identical when putting.
I have putt with the XD, Omega Supersoft, APX and Warlock for extended periods at some point or another. Each had their pros and cons. The XD has a great feel in the hand, but with all that glide it blows by the basket by a mile if you miss. The APX is like a superstraight Magnet, but the ones I had were made from the Elite Pro plastic and I hated the feel of it. The Omega Supersoft was just to soft for me. The Warlock for me feels and flies EXACTLY like a Wizard. I noticed no difference at all.
Also, I didn't have 20+ of any of those discs either. It's hard to avoid the big stack 'o Aviars.
DannyM
11-12-2008, 07:12 AM
I started off when I was a "newbie" by using an Aviar, so that is what I got used to. In fact I had my original for almost 4 years, until it started getting a crack in the rim from where it was getting old. <It was a dx, but kind of soft>. So I started using others for a while until I finally found what I currently use, which is now the blowfly. I also have an Omega ss in my bag for windy conditions, or on shots where I need predictable hyzer. I personally like soft putters, they grab the chains better, they don't tend to roll as much when on hilly areas, and don't tend to skip as much when they land. The blowfly does take some getting used to, but for me it was time well spent. I now have 2 in my bag at all times, 1 for putting only, the other is my approach/tee pad disc. I have a group of friends that I play with, and we play "ript" from time to time, which is why I even started carrying the two blowflies in my bag, but I really got addicted to having my "newer" blowfly as my approach disc.
YonderScott
11-12-2008, 08:10 AM
I recently purchased 2 JK Pro Aviar putters, 170g. I really like em, so far. I tried the hard Putt and Approach and didn't care for em, also tried the soft magnet and didn't like it. I do however like the magnet for approach shots. Now I need some orange dye to really like the JK putters!
taxman
11-12-2008, 08:24 AM
i use a Ching Tank for my putter. it's very grippy so it feels great in my hands. it would probably hit chains from farther distances if it weren't for it's thrower.
discflinger
11-12-2008, 09:22 AM
DX aviars, max weight. Med max weight wizards off the tee, longer shots and in wind.
sidewinding
11-12-2008, 12:14 PM
The XD's low profile, driver like feel keeps it from touching my fingers and sticking on the release like other putters do.
Sometimes I get lazy and just pick up and putt with whatever disc I used for the previous shot. This is a bad habit because it throws off the muscle memory I developed by consistently practicing with the XD.
On a side note: The Birdie may be the most underrated putter out there mostly due to the way it looks. It's a little too cute for most men to throw. My brother used to use one and he would always beat me by out putting me. What made him so good was that when he missed a 40 or 50 footer with the birdie it would never go very far past the basket so he would rarely have three putts. He switched to an aviar when he lost his birdie and now I consistently beat him by outputting him. I always tell him that if he would buy another birdie he would beat me but he doesn't believe me.
buzzinb
11-12-2008, 01:12 PM
I'll second the Banger Gt(pro-D) for anything 75' and under. It helps me to miss by a smaller margin now:-) Flies straight to slightly stable and the groove really feels "right" for some reason. For short drives I prefer the Challenger for its ability to resist turn. however, a couple of weeks ago, a friend let me try a Star Aviar(big bead) and I was amazed at the way this thing could handle being heaved without flipping. It might replace the Challenger???
Jungle Tim
11-12-2008, 01:13 PM
I have putted with a Magnet, Aviar, Birdie, 1080 Radius, Ching Juju, XD, classic roc, Challenger and even a roc. But i have to say that i have found solace in a SOFT banger GT and i use a ESP for drives and as a midrange.
The groove top helps my release, and has made me much more confident, and therefore better.
DiscChainBasket18
11-12-2008, 03:14 PM
I used to use the Aviar P & A because that seemed to be popular. My friend bought a Wizard SS & let me try it. My first putt went straight into the basket from a good 30' out. As did my 2nd & 3rd shots. Hmmm, daddy like!
I liked the feel of the soft 'chalky' plastic & it seemed to grab the chains better. Pretty consistant. It holds a pretty straight line & doesn't deflect much.
Zeppsin
11-12-2008, 10:04 PM
I currently use a "Rhyno" 170g disc putter.
REDARMY
11-12-2008, 10:57 PM
avair-x.
nice and soft/flexible so it settles easily.
TunaSled
11-12-2008, 11:10 PM
Soft Challenger for a couple years, but I recently got a Innova Pro Pig and I'm kind of liking the feel of it.
Midnightbiker
11-13-2008, 12:34 AM
Soft Challenger for a couple years, but I recently got a Innova Pro Pig and I'm kind of liking the feel of it.
What did you like about your Soft Challenger?
DirtyMittenDG
11-13-2008, 01:21 AM
153 Star Aviar!
Lighter weight = more flick
DeafDiscGolfer
11-13-2008, 02:18 AM
I use Lighting Prostyle U-2 Upshot, 20 years old Aviar P&A, Photon glow Challenger, and XD for various situations.
Weird, uh?
;)
DeafDiscGolfer
11-13-2008, 02:29 AM
Which brings me another question that I have asked before...
Do pro players like Ken C., Dave F., Nate D, Elaine K., Val J., etc. uses the same kind of putters every year or do they throw spanking brand new putters all the time? Because I was wondering if I should replace old discs or something...
Anyone know?? ThreePutt? Anyone who follows or knows Kenny's success...? :confused:
adam423
11-13-2008, 08:20 AM
Ron Russell in this (http://discraft.com/vid/html/dg04.html) video uses 2 magnets that are many of years old. Apparently he's good, I don't follow these things. Side note, Mark Ellis's voice annoys the crap out of me.
DiscChainBasket18
11-13-2008, 09:53 AM
Which brings me another question that I have asked before...
Do pro players like Ken C., Dave F., Nate D, Elaine K., Val J., etc. uses the same kind of putters every year or do they throw spanking brand new putters all the time? Because I was wondering if I should replace old discs or something...
Anyone know?? ThreePutt? Anyone who follows or knows Kenny's success...? :confused:
All the local pros here use really beat in putters. Years of beatings. Unrecognizable discs. Mine is getting there. I swear it has finger inmprints starting to set into the plastic.
Rbuzz9
11-13-2008, 04:23 PM
Hemp Wizard
works pretty well and i can say its hemp
Starwraith169
11-13-2008, 06:44 PM
I use the JK Pro Aviar-x because I like the grip and it is definitely a straight shooter. I also use a pro rhyno because it is overstable and it flys really predictably in the wind. Also because it is soft and I dig the thumbtrak
sidewinding
11-13-2008, 06:48 PM
I use the JK Pro Aviar-x because I like the grip and it is definitely a straight shooter. I also use a pro rhyno because it is overstable and it flys really predictably in the wind. Also because it is soft and I dig the thumbtrak
How do you feel about the Star Wraith? I'm thinking about seeing if timg will let me change my username to championboss175.:D
Three Putt
11-13-2008, 07:00 PM
Which brings me another question that I have asked before...
Do pro players like Ken C., Dave F., Nate D, Elaine K., Val J., etc. uses the same kind of putters every year or do they throw spanking brand new putters all the time? Because I was wondering if I should replace old discs or something...
Anyone know?? ThreePutt? Anyone who follows or knows Kenny's success...? :confused:Recently I've seen Feldberg put with a white Aviar, but for a long time the only putter I saw him use was this black Aviar that he said he won at the first tournament he played in. Most of the better players I'm aware of have old putters. Not sure about Climo, that would be interesting to know.
themadcap
11-14-2008, 01:51 PM
I use a 176g Orange DX Aviar. It's my baby.
spletts
11-14-2008, 02:53 PM
I use two putters...the Aviar (169g) and a Discraft Soft Banger GT (171g).
The Banger has a reliable glide for me and can hold it's own in the wind. The aviar is used primarily for my close in (20 ft or closer) straight line shots.
bbiehn
11-14-2008, 05:51 PM
soft banger
Main putter is a 170g Aviar P&A that is really beat in. I also have an Omega SS that is 146g. I use this for jump putts and uphill putting when there is no wind. I have been thinking about switching to Gateway putters but havn't made the move yet because I'm pretty confident with my current setup.
valkyriefb11
11-15-2008, 12:56 AM
So how many of you prefer hard plastic or soft plastic for your putters? Or do you carry a soft and hard putter?
DeafDiscGolfer
11-15-2008, 04:22 AM
So how many of you prefer hard plastic or soft plastic for your putters? Or do you carry a soft and hard putter?
Both...
iDisc
11-15-2008, 09:37 AM
So how many of you prefer hard plastic or soft plastic for your putters? Or do you carry a soft and hard putter?
i use the soft magnet and hard magnet. i like the hard magnet for how it feels in my hand with the stiffer plastic, and i keep the soft magnet for rainy, wet conditions. the hard magnet will not stay in if the chains are wet. i learned this the hard way in a tournament last week. also the soft magnet because it is a little more beat in. also for some reason the soft magnet is more consistent. i think i have more confidence with this putter and thats why its more consistent
i also found out that magnets fly mainly the same even though they are beat in, i like that about a disc
also for windy or hyzer putts i use an esp banger or a new roc, depending on the distance
borndasaur
11-15-2008, 10:16 PM
171 Star Rhyno, in from 25', stops dead even on hills from further out.
Geoffro
11-16-2008, 12:59 AM
Aviar P&A, 168g. I have two of these (both the same color - that's important), and if I miss with the first, I pretend it didn't happen and throw the second.
leathercash
11-16-2008, 04:34 PM
My current favorite has got to be the good'ol DX aero. I'm still new to the sport and this putter just seems very forgiving. One thing I notice though is that it hangs in the air for what seems like forever,like it floats or something.
zud00
11-16-2008, 09:03 PM
I use Discraft Putt'r in Elite Z plastic. It is comfortable like a catch disc and the plastic is firm, but grippy. I also carry a Pro Rhyno and a DX Aviar.
REDARMY
11-17-2008, 01:21 AM
JK aviar-x. never used anything else.
DannyM
11-17-2008, 06:56 AM
So how many of you prefer hard plastic or soft plastic for your putters? Or do you carry a soft and hard putter?
My preferance is definately soft putters. When they hit anything(trees, the ground, hills, the basket), they usually just fall, or stay put. When I did use hard plastic, it tended to "skip", or bounce off everything and anything. I carry 4 "putters" in my bag currently, and all are soft. 2 Blowflies, 1 omega ss, and a soft ryno. The only exception for putting that I use a harder disc is when I do a forehand flick putt, and I am now using the new Pig, which is pro plastic, but because of the type of disc it is a bit firmer.
garublador
11-17-2008, 12:07 PM
So how many of you prefer hard plastic or soft plastic for your putters? Or do you carry a soft and hard putter?For putting, hard. If the disc changes shape in your hand you'll get a less consistant release. That means more misses. Firm putters hold their shape.
I do have a softer one I use for some approach shots, though. They seem to be a bit better for shorter, "touch" approaches and beat up quicker so they get straighter and floater faster.
trifocal
11-17-2008, 03:19 PM
Hard Magnet.
( I can't really manage a push/jump putt because of the strain it puts on my elbow at the very end of the extension)
I guess I don't actually putt at all, but make short throws.
The Magnet floats way more than the soft discs and I like that. I line up (RHBH) with my right foot perpindicular to the basket, take a couple false tosses to feel what the wind is doing on the short reach back and that let it go on a flat to slight anhyzer line at the 3rd chain link above the basket rim. This would be for a 15- 30 foot throw. Longer throws, say out to 60', I increase the anhyzer and the height of my hand at the moment of release.
A little bit of pressure from my thumb at release gives the disc a fair amount of spin and when I'm grooving feels like a dart coming out my hand.
This method does have the shortcoming of...if I don't hit the basket, I'm looking at 10-15 feet and I'm still not perfect from that range.
Putting will always remain tough and everyone misses and goes through streaks. I do think having at least 2 of the putters you use is a good idea.
Brokensaint
11-19-2008, 11:19 PM
I started out with an Aviar DX P&A, which i did and still do like. Having said that, I have found that a pro pig in 175 g helps me with my biggest issue with longer distance putts: strength control. I have a tendency to over throw on longer putts when using an aviar or warlock (another putter I like), but the pig has helped me with this.
Recently, I went out to play a round and found to my dismay that I had left the putters out of my bag (173 aviar, 175 pig and prototype of the new 170 voodoo) because I had been putting at home with my kids. I was left with the following options: drivers (no thank you), a skeeter, an element x or a demon. To my surprise, putting with the demon 173g worked out very well and i now find myself using it more and more as my main putter.
ScottJB
11-20-2008, 06:25 AM
I use an 175 DX Aviar P&A Primarily, and for balance(Understability Options) I use a 150 Magic. With said discs being the papa bear and the baby bear, I guess I round it out with a 170 Aero moma bear..., thus covering a decent ranch of stability and weight. All of this being said, I recently got a Voodoo in a players pack, and absolutely love the way it feels, and am pretty sure its going to soon replace the Aviar, as it fades the same but is much more ergonomic and a little faster...
jdquinonez
11-22-2008, 03:19 PM
i use a ching juju putter and it works pretty well. i had a discraft banger gt before but i think this was a major improvement over the other
john campbell
11-24-2008, 08:02 PM
I started with a DX Aviar 150g, way too light for me. I switched to my 179g Shark and putted great with that for several weeks. If I use it to approach, I usually finish the round with it. However, I now putt with a Millenium Omega Super Soft 175g. I love it. I love the way it feels, the way it grips, the way it flies. I just ordered some other putters so I can practice on the yard basket, all 175g, but different plastics and makers. I'll check back in a few weeks with my lowdown.
iDisc
11-24-2008, 08:32 PM
I started with a DX Aviar 150g, way too light for me. I switched to my 179g Shark and putted great with that for several weeks. If I use it to approach, I usually finish the round with it. However, I now putt with a Millenium Omega Super Soft 175g. I love it. I love the way it feels, the way it grips, the way it flies. I just ordered some other putters so I can practice on the yard basket, all 175g, but different plastics and makers. I'll check back in a few weeks with my lowdown.
throwing a 150g aviar is setting up yourself for frustration at the course. if you like how it feels pick up one 165+
kinfolkfan
11-24-2008, 08:51 PM
i started with a p and a champion orange jelly aviar. i still use it as a mid range.
love that disc and i dont think they are going to make it anymore. but any way i went to a rhyno, liked it. moved on to a discraft banger, liked it. but then i found or i mean they made the pig. at 175 i have not felt more confident with my putting. i shot a 4 down. that is good for me. it is all about bangin home those short shots. anyway love the pig tossed with some anhyzer. more distance more ani. love it and i suggest it to all, or whoever likes the rhyno.
have fun all
sub ceroh
11-25-2008, 03:39 AM
Wham-O Putter 167g. I have tried the birdie and the arrow but the Wham-O seams to fly streighter and give me more control.
lewisville150
11-27-2008, 08:34 AM
Love my Discraft D Magnets. I have three 170 - 172 g. All are quite beaten in. They are very consistent when I am consistent. LOL! I occasionally use a Discraft Banger GT for long approaches.
jdc03270
12-03-2008, 08:51 PM
I am thinking about getting a soft magnet. Do people who have one like it?
solomon.trenton
12-03-2008, 08:53 PM
DX Aero has the most glide and best feel when you release.
Hamilton
12-03-2008, 09:06 PM
i use a soft magnet...i love it, i was putting with a midrange before i got it, and it literally took a couple strokes off my game, i guess it matches me better for putting...only time i don't putt with it is when there is some decent wind blowing...
Robert Scott
12-03-2008, 09:17 PM
I use a soft Rhyno and an old classic roc. Both are great but use the rhyno in a strong headwind.
Midnightbiker
12-04-2008, 07:41 PM
I keep coming back to my Star Coyote. Its not a putter, but it just works great for putting.
theGryphon
12-04-2008, 08:42 PM
I'm currently practicing my putting every week for bout 1/2hr at a time. At the moment I'm using a few different disc to see how they fly in various winds, which ones I am most consistent with, and how they perform from various distances. I have the Birdie thumbtrac 170, aviar P&A 166, Polecat 150, and the Discraft challenger/hi-flex 167/174. I seem to have fair success with all of them. Which one I use while playing depends on the winds and just general mood or how I'm playing for the day.
bdamcat
12-04-2008, 09:35 PM
I carry four putter's an omega ss, p&a aviar, challenger, and a pig.
valkyriefb11
12-05-2008, 11:34 AM
Any thoughts on the new putter from Gateway, the Voodoo?
from the pictures online it looks like a faster big bead aviar??
sidewinder22
12-05-2008, 10:33 PM
I'm lovin the 169g Discraft GT Soft Banger! I just got this a few days ago and it just feels so much better in my hand and on release than the Innova Aviars, Millenium Omega SS, Lightning Rubber putter, Aerobie Arrow(I love the Arrow for approaches though). I know people think this is crazy but I like the 174g Quest 10M Brick for inside 10 meters. I used to use my Champ Banshee and did pretty well with it, except I realized too many were bouncing out!
Midnightbiker
12-06-2008, 05:53 PM
I went back to my Soft Magent. Its really beat, but it works. I think I am going to keep it in my bag for a while.
john campbell
12-06-2008, 09:06 PM
Any thoughts on the new putter from Gateway, the Voodoo?
from the pictures online it looks like a faster big bead aviar??
I just got one in the mail today. Black, First Run, Voodoo Super Stupid Soft, 175g - so the back says, but it's as stiff as a DX Aviar and not nearly as soft as my old Millennium Omega SuperSoft. It's marked SSS on the back, but far from it. I think someone made a mistake. My pal has a Warlock SSS and you can literally bend it in half. It's just stiff enough to hold it's shape. Anyway, the Voodoo is the same diameter as a DX Aviar, but has an almost perfectly round edge. When you look down the side it looks like a road bike tire. I'm taking it out for a spin in the morning.
john campbell
12-06-2008, 10:11 PM
Any thoughts on the new putter from Gateway, the Voodoo?
from the pictures online it looks like a faster big bead aviar??
Sorry for the double post, but I just saw this on Disc Golf Center:
About the Voodoo: The Gateway Voodoo is a very straight putter. It has a completely round nose and a small bead. It holds a fairly straight line when thrown hard with a little less fade than a Warlock on the finish. A very ergonomic design that is comfortable for large or small hands.
http://www.discgolfcenter.com/main_displayProduct.php?p=449
valkyriefb11
12-07-2008, 04:14 PM
I just got one in the mail today. Black, First Run, Voodoo Super Stupid Soft, 175g - so the back says, but it's as stiff as a DX Aviar and not nearly as soft as my old Millennium Omega SuperSoft. It's marked SSS on the back, but far from it. I think someone made a mistake. My pal has a Warlock SSS and you can literally bend it in half. It's just stiff enough to hold it's shape. Anyway, the Voodoo is the same diameter as a DX Aviar, but has an almost perfectly round edge. When you look down the side it looks like a road bike tire. I'm taking it out for a spin in the morning.
Thats wierd about the plastic ... SSS is supposed to be extremely flexible (great for cold northeast winters ;) )
Let me know how you like it after you give it a spin. Oh and after you use it, is it pretty similiar to an Aviar P&A?
john campbell
12-07-2008, 05:54 PM
Thats wierd about the plastic ... SSS is supposed to be extremely flexible (great for cold northeast winters ;) )
Let me know how you like it after you give it a spin. Oh and after you use it, is it pretty similiar to an Aviar P&A?
I played 36 holes today and was bouncing between the Magic and Omega SS (both 175g, too) during the first round and then I pulled out the Voodoo. I don't know if I'll ever use the other two again. I love it. It honestly flew straight as an arrow AND will hold an anhyzer line perfectly. My other putters have had varying degrees of fade, not this one (unless you put a slight hyzer angle on it). I felt like I had complete control with it.
After the second round I stopped by a youth soccer field and threw all three putters from goal to goal for about an hour, both the Omega and Magic had significant fade and I had to tip them with an anhyzer angle for an s curve to hit the net. The Voodoo went straight in everytime unless I gave one of the wings a little angle, but I still had control.
I'm done looking. I've found my putter and I have two great back-ups if I need them. The Omega SS being my second choice.
As for the Aviar comparison, I can't help. The DX Aviar that I had was way too light (150g). I ended the nightmare after a month or two and started putting with my 179g Shark. I putted with the Shark for a month or two until I found the Omega SS. I would have never switched from the SS, but I have a basket in the backyard now and wanted a few other 175g putters for practice.
And they obviously mismarked it. It is not an SSS, more like the S-Series with just a bit more stiffness than the Omega. It still has a great, tacky feel and I love the round edge.
whew, sorry I carried on for so long. Try a Voodoo, you'll love it.
valkyriefb11
12-07-2008, 07:58 PM
Try a Voodoo, you'll love it.
Thanks so much! Ill be picking one up in my next order :)
Three Putt
12-08-2008, 01:21 AM
Any thoughts on the new putter from Gateway, the Voodoo?
from the pictures online it looks like a faster big bead aviar??I'm stumped with the Voodoo. When you look at it the wing looks beefier and blunter than a Wizard. It looks like it should be slower, but the damn thing is faster. It's like a faster, less LSS Wizard. The Wizard is already faster than an Aviar, so the Voodoo puts the Aviar to shame. I'm not sure how it will be as it ages, but right now the Voodoo looks to be the best stable putter on the market.
Right now if you asked me to recommend an overstable putter, I'd say Wizard. If you asked me to recommend an stable putter, I'd say Voodoo. If you asked me to recommend an understable putter, I'd say Magic. If you are looking for an overstable putter but don't like the feel of a big bead, the Warlock is just what the Doctor ordered. Basically what I'm saying is that if you are not at least trying a Gateway putter, you are just hurting yourself.
Three Putt
12-08-2008, 01:30 AM
I just got one in the mail today. Black, First Run, Voodoo Super Stupid Soft, 175g - so the back says, but it's as stiff as a DX Aviar and not nearly as soft as my old Millennium Omega SuperSoft. It's marked SSS on the back, but far from it. I think someone made a mistake. My pal has a Warlock SSS and you can literally bend it in half. It's just stiff enough to hold it's shape. Anyway, the Voodoo is the same diameter as a DX Aviar, but has an almost perfectly round edge. When you look down the side it looks like a road bike tire. I'm taking it out for a spin in the morning.Gateway Soft sometimes isn't all that soft. The Voodoo's I have all are labeled "soft" but they are all harder than a D Magnet, which is cool by me. Actually, my Voodoo's do have a soft flight plate, but the rims are quite stiff. As a result they are not floppy at all. They will probably all clover at some point do to the softness of the flight plate, which I don't like but it happens.
Midnightbiker
12-08-2008, 01:54 AM
I carry four putter's an omega ss, p&a aviar, challenger, and a pig.
Ok, I have to ask. Why do you carry 4 different putters?
DeafDiscGolfer
12-08-2008, 02:16 AM
Ok, I have to ask. Why do you carry 4 different putters?
Different situations calls for certain disc to be used...
Like for upshot throws, long putts, downhill short putt, long/short an/hyzer shots, etc...
Same thing for mid and distance drivers, of course.
john campbell
12-08-2008, 09:45 AM
Gateway Soft sometimes isn't all that soft. The Voodoo's I have all are labeled "soft" but they are all harder than a D Magnet, which is cool by me. Actually, my Voodoo's do have a soft flight plate, but the rims are quite stiff. As a result they are not floppy at all. They will probably all clover at some point do to the softness of the flight plate, which I don't like but it happens.
All of the Gateway SSS putters I've held can literally be bent in half and will retain their shape, completely flexible, gummy, chaingrabbin' putters. That's what I was wanting from the Voodoo, but not what I've got. It says SSS on the back, but has that slightly soft flight plate you mentioned, with a stiff rim, just a bit of flexibility, and no floppiness. Very similar to a Soft (not all that soft) Gateway putter, but not as soft as an Omega Super Soft. I still love it. And it is fast, like a 10-speed tire. I'm not even sure I want a floppy putter now.
Three Putt
12-08-2008, 12:51 PM
All of the Gateway SSS putters I've held can literally be bent in half and will retain their shape, completely flexible, gummy, chaingrabbin' putters. That's what I was wanting from the Voodoo, but not what I've got. It says SSS on the back, but has that slightly soft flight plate you mentioned, with a stiff rim, just a bit of flexibility, and no floppiness. Very similar to a Soft (not all that soft) Gateway putter, but not as soft as an Omega Super Soft. I still love it. And it is fast, like a 10-speed tire. I'm not even sure I want a floppy putter now.You were probably right before. That just sounds like a soft that they mis-marked at the shop.
Off the tee I would always recommend a firm putter. A floppy one will just slow down the disc. What will really catch your attention with the Voodoo is how fast it is off the tee. Really, I think you can learn to putt with any putter. I choose a putter by how well it flies off the tee, and this thing is wicked-fast for a putter. Getting a SSS Voodoo would just slow it down off the tee, which to me would make no sense.
I recently read a post that summed up how I feel about putters. It said soft putters are great when you miss. They tend to fall over and not roll away. Hard putters give you a more consistent release, so you putt more accurately. So if you plan to miss a lot a putts, get a soft putter. If you plan to make a lot of putts, get a hard putter.
john campbell
12-08-2008, 01:02 PM
I recently read a post that summed up how I feel about putters. It said soft putters are great when you miss. They tend to fall over and not roll away. Hard putters give you a more consistent release, so you putt more accurately. So if you plan to miss a lot a putts, get a soft putter. If you plan to make a lot of putts, get a hard putter.
I'm pitching my tent in this camp. I wanted a floppy, gummy chaingrabber for those short 12-20 footers, but what's the point? If I can't nail those with a stiffer putter it just means I can't putt.
valkyriefb11
12-08-2008, 01:15 PM
I recently read a post that summed up how I feel about putters. It said soft putters are great when you miss. They tend to fall over and not roll away. Hard putters give you a more consistent release, so you putt more accurately. So if you plan to miss a lot a putts, get a soft putter. If you plan to make a lot of putts, get a hard putter.
thats a really good point ... there is no point in buying a putter thats good for missing the basket ... Ive actually switched back to hard putters, but I do like to keep a softer putter just for the winter.
john campbell
12-08-2008, 01:37 PM
...but I do like to keep a softer putter just for the winter.
That was my goal when I went online shopping. They just sent the wrong disc so I ended up with a stiffer one than expected, for the best.
It was 20 degrees when I played yesterday and I could tell a difference in my discs, especially my Avenger SS FLX - I actually liked it better being a bit stiffer, makes me wish I had more FLX if just for the winter. But, I didn't notice any difference in the Voodoo. It didn't seem much stiffer than when I got it and I had been throwing it around the house the night before to get a feel for it.
...for whatever that's worth.
BTW it was so cold my friend's DX Cobra cracked about 3 inches from edge to center when it hit a tree. It was the first time I'd seen that happen.
Midnightbiker
12-08-2008, 02:21 PM
Who makes the Voodoo and how long has it been out?
valkyriefb11
12-08-2008, 05:30 PM
Who makes the Voodoo and how long has it been out?
Gateway ... its only been out a couple of months (its their most recent putter release)
aceman
12-08-2008, 10:36 PM
aviars for putting and wizards for throwing
SimonCarr
12-10-2008, 11:31 PM
Wizard for putts
Wizard for approaches
Wizard for short line-drive shots
DiscChainBasket18
12-11-2008, 12:49 AM
Wizard for putts
Wizard for approaches
Wizard for short line-drive shots
loves me a bunch of wizard (SS). they are like butter
REDARMY
12-11-2008, 03:48 AM
just an off topic update: i was putting like tiger today with a disccraft upshot. yeah it was amateur tees, and yeah it was doubles, but i was sinkin 'em like i never have before. we shot -10, but you all can kiss my ass since that was the best i've ever done at my home course (white birch).
/why yes, i do know that means we should be shooting from the pro tees, but i'm still proud damnit!
//i used to use my aviar as i posted earlier in this thread, but for some reason i just knock 'em down with the upshot
REDARMY
12-11-2008, 03:57 AM
thats a really good point ... there is no point in buying a putter thats good for missing the basket ... Ive actually switched back to hard putters, but I do like to keep a softer putter just for the winter.
thats the same epiphany i reached today. i've always used my softer aviar because i assumed i would miss, so the softer disc would leave me a better lie/par shot. i switched to the stiffer upshot today and i was actually making the shots i was aiming for.
/YMMV
Three Putt
12-11-2008, 11:41 AM
just an off topic update: i was putting like tiger today with a disccraft upshot. yeah it was amateur tees, and yeah it was doubles, but i was sinkin 'em like i never have before. we shot -10, but you all can kiss my ass since that was the best i've ever done at my home course (white birch).
/why yes, i do know that means we should be shooting from the pro tees, but i'm still proud damnit!
//i used to use my aviar as i posted earlier in this thread, but for some reason i just knock 'em down with the upshotCool. The Upshot is made by Lightning, though.
DeafDiscGolfer
12-11-2008, 04:02 PM
Cool. The Upshot is made by Lightning, though.
Yup, it is since I do own (2) Prostyle U-2 Upshot from Lighting...
Its a much softer/flexible putter than Aviar and does serve me well when throwing uphills or lands well. But if you throw it too hard, then it will bounce out way too far!!
REDARMY
12-12-2008, 08:22 AM
Cool. The Upshot is made by Lightning, though.
er, yeah
don't do drugs.... and post at nearly 3am kids :p
solomon.trenton
12-12-2008, 09:26 AM
What putter do you use and why? How does you putter work for you?
i use a 169 innova aero. you cant beat its glide and it flies straight as an arrow. couldnt be more pleased with it.
bdamcat
12-12-2008, 05:54 PM
Ok, I have to ask. Why do you carry 4 different putters?
Different situations calls for certain disc to be used...
Like for upshot throws, long putts, downhill short putt, long/short an/hyzer shots, etc...
Same thing for mid and distance drivers, of course.
Couldn't have said it better myself. But I will also add that it depends on the weather too (cold, hot, rain, etc.)
discgolferjr
12-13-2009, 07:28 PM
I use the innova dx birdie for close up and a dx avair p and a for longer shots
Charlotte49er
12-13-2009, 07:56 PM
I love my R-Pro Aviar. I use it on almost every shot from within 30 feet.
LStephens
12-13-2009, 08:00 PM
APX Swirl for anything inside 30' unless I need to hyzer around something
Challenger: Soft EliteX Beat...for jump putts and hyzer putts
Challenger: Soft EliteX New...for upshots
Challenger: Crystal for stable approach shots and Tee Shots up to 220'
Zone:ESP for heavy wind day approaches and heavy headwind putting...aka my Bowling Green Putter
Sometimes I'll use a BangerGT...a soft one...for jump putts in the off season when my fingers are cold and I don't get a good grip...the grooved thumb slot helps me then. I play around with an ESP BangerGT for short drives as well. All putters are max weight...I wish I could have putters double, triple or even 100x max weight.
Dthunderchicken
12-13-2009, 08:04 PM
For a pure putter (about 50' or less) I practice with 175g DX Aviars but in my bag is a 178g (I think) Lighting #2. I got it as a throw in last year and started with it this year. I've grown to really like it.
toothyfish
12-13-2009, 08:21 PM
Magic SSS for true putting. Voodoo M for approaches and headwind putts. Both 175.
Technohic
12-13-2009, 08:30 PM
I like my Blowfly now for putts under 50' but I think I might like my Banger-GTs better for anything longer, at least putting wise and FH. BH is still Blowfly.
orc-in man
12-13-2009, 08:40 PM
Love my SUPER SOFT Warlocks for putting, but KC Pro Aviars off the tee and all approach shots around 200' or less.
jdggna
12-13-2009, 08:40 PM
175g Voodoos in M/S. That's all I use.
ChaseTheAce
12-13-2009, 08:52 PM
Voodoo in SS, and HPP
Just bought some Magics to try out
KC and JK Aviars make it into my putting routine when im at home using the practice basket
RussMB
12-13-2009, 10:30 PM
I have two, a Dx Aviar and a Dx Hydra putter. I do like the Hydra if I'm throwing into a head wind, or if the basket is on the edge of some water. The Hydra is a floater and I like the feel of it. I really don't have a preference. The Hydra has cooler graphics and looks better in the basket when I take pictures! lol
Midnightbiker
12-13-2009, 10:31 PM
Anyone ever tried putting with the Mako?
Trampy1
12-13-2009, 10:56 PM
I use the Omega AP, and carry a Birdie (I never use the Birdie, and am taking it out of my bag). I have always liked the Rhyno, and will get another one very soon!
silverbullet
12-13-2009, 11:00 PM
i use a sss wizard and magic both made by gateway, i have never tried there driver or midranges but love the putters. i have used an avair and rhyno
TROTTER
12-13-2009, 11:04 PM
Classic Grid Aviars... and a DX Polecat
bikinjack
12-13-2009, 11:12 PM
I use a Wizard & Magic combo. Lately, I've been using the Wizard more and more.
captain jack
12-13-2009, 11:49 PM
I tried a JK Pro Aviar-X, its a standard large rim hyzer hucker with good sticking qualities, but I'm tired of always only feeling comfortable with a hyzer line, so I got an XD.
XD is the shizzy for me, it's like its programable, left, right, straight, whatever line I want, its good with it. Now I feel better going dead center at the pin from much farther out.
Clark
12-14-2009, 12:12 AM
I putt with a 180g Aero and am careful to think about the landing zone if I miss. It flies dead straight with very minimal fade for anything under 125'
mashnut
12-14-2009, 12:32 AM
I putt with SSS Wizards, and approach and drive with an S wizard, a D focus or a star BB aviar depending on the shot and the wind.
Dtrain22
12-14-2009, 12:45 AM
R H Y N O
MooTaters
12-14-2009, 12:52 AM
SS voodoo...it's not godlike to me, but it gets the job done. I have yet to have a putter that I feel and think it's the best thing on this planet. Plan on trying the wizard and warlock in the same plastic, but have been waiting for a softer SS to come into my shop.
Disc Dog
12-14-2009, 01:36 AM
I have 2 I use,
Innova Aero 177g. This is a great disc and would be my only putter if it didn't chain out on putts of less than 50 with regularity. It is not very flexible, especially on cold days. It is my disc used for anything over 50' and up to 100'. Great on windy days, an excellent annie/turnover disc.
Discraft FLX Challenger. I use this for putts of less than 50'. I have really come to enjoy this disc and it is very reliable. It has a predictable fade at the end that makes it great for any putt that needs to do that.
Mattallica
12-14-2009, 02:04 AM
star big bead
alexrd35
12-14-2009, 02:18 AM
175 SSS Wizard. Used to use an aviar, but this Wiz is more overstable and predictable of the tee. I also love the way the grippy plastic feels. Disc is maleable yet not floppy. If it hits chains, it never misses.
DannyM
12-14-2009, 07:07 AM
Anyone ever tried putting with the Mako?
only played with my mako about 3-4 rounds. I like the way that it does fly, and got good distance and control with it, BUT, I've been throwing a champ. coyote for about 2 years now, and to me the two are identical except when I throw an anhyzer shot. I know exactly how much angle to put on my coyote for it to hold the line, but when I do the same with the mako, it's just slightly more stable, and will not hold the line like my Coyote. I know that my mako is brand new, and my coyote is very "seasoned", but I just feel more comfortable with the coyote. I probably should put the mako in my bag for "practice" rounds to get it seasoned, but it's just hard to take out a "go-to" backhand midrange.
solomon.trenton
12-14-2009, 07:37 AM
175 SSS Wizard. Used to use an aviar, but this Wiz is more overstable and predictable of the tee. I also love the way the grippy plastic feels. Disc is maleable yet not floppy. If it hits chains, it never misses.
i have noticed that on my practice basket as well
I have been consistently using a flx challenger for driving and putting in the wind. For <40' no wind putts I am currently using a hard d magnet. I have been trying different discs in this slot.
I really want to get my hands on a banger GT. Have heard nothing but good things about those.
simpletwist
12-14-2009, 09:10 AM
For 2 years it was almost exclusively a Lightning U-2. But I've recently switched to a Soft Banger GT. Putting confidence ws restored! Now I carry both.
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