View Full Version : Just because you don't live close it's not a Con
ERicJ
11-13-2008, 04:13 AM
Similar to ptsawyer's thread (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4975) I've been noticing a recent trend in some of the reviews that people are listing the course not being close to them as a Con. Some are tongue in cheek, but others seem serious. A few examples:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/reviews.php?id=189&mode=rev#2302
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/reviews.php?id=598&mode=rev#5091
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/reviews.php?id=1078&mode=rev#5403
I'm sorry, but your choice of where to live is not a Con of the course. :rolleyes:
ERic
heelboycraig
11-13-2008, 07:17 AM
Similar to ptsawyer's thread (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4975) I've been noticing a recent trend in some of the reviews that people are listing the course not being close to them as a Con. Some are tongue in cheek, but others seem serious. A few examples:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/reviews.php?id=189&mode=rev#2302
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/reviews.php?id=598&mode=rev#5091
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/reviews.php?id=1078&mode=rev#5403
I'm sorry, but your choice of where to live is not a Con of the course. :rolleyes:
ERic
Those are three bad examples you listed if you're trying to show distance as being a real negative. All three reviews you listed rated the courses high, which shows they enjoyed playing them. Maybe if someone really rates a course lower because of distance, it's a valid point; otherwise, just like those 3 reviews, it's clearly intended as a compliment.
taxman
11-13-2008, 08:29 AM
i can see what Eric is getting at. i've noticed the "i'm not close enough comments" but i don't really think it's a big deal. the reader of the review should be smart enough to figure that one out for themselves.
however if someone were to actually mark down a course for not being close enough then i would say that's not right.
garublador
11-13-2008, 09:42 AM
As long as it's not reflected in the score for the course it doesn't matter.
Mando
11-13-2008, 09:44 AM
I'm glad this was brought up. I actually found myself downgrading a course from a personal benefit/cost standpoint, which shouldn't have entered the equation, and revised my review.
Adam Schneider
11-13-2008, 11:14 AM
There's two factors with location:
(1) How far it is from your house
(2) How far it is from anything else in the world
#1 shouldn't affect a rating, but #2 could. If the only way to get to a course is a 2-hour drive up a winding gravel road, and there are no other courses anywhere nearby, that's a legitimate "Con." Maybe it shouldn't affect the 1- through 5-star rating, but there's no harm in mentioning it in the text. After all, proximity to a number of other good courses certainly could go in the "Pros."
ERicJ
11-13-2008, 11:17 AM
There's two factors with location:
(1) How far it is from your house
(2) How far it is from anything else in the world
#1 shouldn't affect a rating, but #2 could. If the only way to get to a course is a 2-hour drive up a winding gravel road, and there are no other courses anywhere nearby, that's a legitimate "Con." Maybe it shouldn't affect the 1- through 5-star rating, but there's no harm in mentioning it in the text. After all, proximity to a number of other good courses certainly could go in the "Pros."
Totally agree.
ERic
sidewinding
11-13-2008, 11:30 AM
Similar to ptsawyer's thread (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4975) I've been noticing a recent trend in some of the reviews that people are listing the course not being close to them as a Con. Some are tongue in cheek, but others seem serious. A few examples:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/reviews.php?id=189&mode=rev#2302
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/reviews.php?id=598&mode=rev#5091
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/reviews.php?id=1078&mode=rev#5403
I'm sorry, but your choice of where to live is not a Con of the course. :rolleyes:
ERic
In all three of these examples the reviewers are obviously not being serious. They are making a point that these courses are so good that they are jealous that they don't live closer to the course. They are sarcastically using the "con" section to give the course another "pro". I don't have a problem with it. Sometimes a course is good enough that it's hard to give it a con so people get creative because they feel obligated to put something in the con section.
An actual con would be something like "it's not worth the 30 minute drive from Austin to play this course" which I think is a valid con.
magictenor1
11-13-2008, 12:39 PM
How far you live from a course should have no bearing on your review. It would appere that most of the things we are seeing are not actually changing the score given however. If a course is good enough people will drive to play it.
The Valkyrie Kid
11-13-2008, 02:30 PM
I'm agreeing with most everyone before me. All three of these reviewers were giving the course a back-handed compliment saying they wished the course was closer to their homes. All three gave those courses high scores.
Three Putt
11-13-2008, 03:12 PM
There's two factors with location:
(1) How far it is from your house
(2) How far it is from anything else in the world
#1 shouldn't affect a rating, but #2 could. If the only way to get to a course is a 2-hour drive up a winding gravel road, and there are no other courses anywhere nearby, that's a legitimate "Con." Maybe it shouldn't affect the 1- through 5-star rating, but there's no harm in mentioning it in the text. After all, proximity to a number of other good courses certainly could go in the "Pros."I don't know...If I stumbled across a gem of a course way in the middle of nowhere in a place no reasonable person would have any other reason to be I would not hold that against the course at all. Horseshoe Canyon Ranch in Arkansas is like that, but you really can't fault those folks for owning land in the middle of BFE Arkansas. They have a great course regardless of where it is.
If you DID count that against a course, I'd count that against the newly sainted course with no faults...Flip City. I'm from Michigan, and unless things have changed dramatically Flip City is in a place that I would never go anywhere near other than to play disc golf.
The Valkyrie Kid
11-13-2008, 03:41 PM
Why do most forum posters have their locations listed but a few of us don't? What do you have to do to get this?
valkyriefb11
11-13-2008, 04:15 PM
If you DID count that against a course, I'd count that against the newly sainted course with no faults...Flip City. I'm from Michigan, and unless things have changed dramatically Flip City is in a place that I would never go anywhere near other than to play disc golf.
:eek: heresy! :p
ERicJ
11-13-2008, 04:23 PM
Why do most forum posters have their locations listed but a few of us don't? What do you have to do to get this?
You need to manually add your location (and any other data you want) to your forum profile:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/profile.php?do=editprofile
ERic
I don't know...If I stumbled across a gem of a course way in the middle of nowhere in a place no reasonable person would have any other reason to be I would not hold that against the course at all. Horseshoe Canyon Ranch in Arkansas is like that, but you really can't fault those folks for owning land in the middle of BFE Arkansas. They have a great course regardless of where it is.
If you DID count that against a course, I'd count that against the newly sainted course with no faults...Flip City. I'm from Michigan, and unless things have changed dramatically Flip City is in a place that I would never go anywhere near other than to play disc golf.
If proximity to a course was a negative, I'd never get to give a good rating. The closest courses to me are a full hour away under perfect driving conditions. And the Woodshed and Whippin' Post in Paw Paw, WV are two out of the way gems.
But not only is Paw Paw 25 miles from anything, but the course is another 25 minutes into the WV mountains on a dirt/tar & chip road. (And yes the name of the town is really fitting. Just for fun say it a couple time... Paaaaww Paaaaww... the thicker the stereotypical WV accent the better.)
The Valkyrie Kid
11-13-2008, 05:52 PM
Thanks Eric.
I think I figured it out.
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