Pet peeve - its concrete, not cement!

[Dave242]

For years, I have heard many disc golfers and a particular top course designer say tee pads are made of cement. It has bugged me repeatedly and tonight I am finally letting it out for the sake of my own sanity. :D

Tee pads are made of CONCRETE! Even the Grammar Girl (http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/concrete-versus-cement.aspx) can help you with this one.

[homebrew]

That's right. As a former concrete worker, it's always bugged me too. Cement is in concrete.

[leppard]

Tee pads are made of CEMENT! plus sand and gravel.

[solomon.trenton]

dont forget the rebar;)

[Dave242]

Tee pads are made of CEMENT! plus sand and gravel.

Your brain is made out of WATER! plus some other stuff. :D

Oh, and don't forget to toast your FLOUR for breakfast. :p

[leppard]

High quality H2O!

[optidiscic]

Some of us have more other stuff than others.....I think I'm gonna refer to concrete tees as Sand, Gravel, and other stuff tees!

[Cgkdisc]

I think if you can "cement a relationship" without using concrete, using "cement" as a generic term for hard surfaced tee pads is okay. Same thing where using the word "basket" can either mean the whole thing or just the receptacle under the chains.

[leppard]

I prefer cement, sand, gravel, rebar, mixed with high quality H2O! teepads over natural tees!

[Terry C]

I sniff rubber cement, does that count?

[flippa]

this is why i play natural tee pads lol

[magictenor1]

much ado about not much

[CaptainAnhyzer]

much ado about not much

2nd.

[jeremytf]

Thanks point out something that bugs me too, from a picky architect! :-)

[jkdisc]

if we get picky it's not really a "tee" pad since you don't put anything on a tee

[toothyfish]

I prefer cement, sand, gravel, rebar, mixed with high quality H2O! teepads over natural tees!

Portland or Allentown?

[underpar24]

does it really matter if they are called cement or concrete. I mean at the end of the day you know what they are talking about.

[superberry]

What about fly ash? Little to no cement needed in some good high early strength concrete. Should we call the hard surface "fly ash"?

[Dave242]

does it really matter if they are called cement or concrete. I mean at the end of the day you know what they are talking about.

Not really.....that is why it is a "pet peeve" (a particular personal vexation).

But like I alluded to up thread, it is technically pretty much like calling bread, flour.

While we're on the topic of pet peeves another one is people substituting stable for overstable. As in, "try this Firebird - it is really stable".

Stable means stable.....as in stable......resistant to change of position or condition; not easily moved or disturbed; maintaining equilibrium; self-restoring. In disc golf terms, minimal high-speed and low-speed fade.

[NothinButChing]

concrete evidence

[leppard]

We built a stable for our horses. Under the stable is a cement floor. Over the stable is a metal roof.:)

I know what you are thinking. I'm not mentally stable.:)

[peabody]

"Hey, here comes the Cement Truck with my load of Concrete"
"Put that sand gravel and portland into the Cement Mixer"

[Jodabro]

I guess I will start refering them to launch pads then, you are right nothing is teed up. The basket being references can get confusing, so I figured it out the "recepticle under the chains" as you put it, is the trapper. Start using trapper in your DG vocab and others will understand more of what your talking about.

As for concrete, I always call it concrete. Rarely do you see plain old cement being used these days.

I totally agree Dave, stable is stable. Overstable means the disc will turn at high speed the same as it does at low speed. Stable means it doesn't turn at all at high speed.

[scarpfish]

I think I'm going to go my favorite frozen custard place today and eat some concrete.

[Gamecock]

Oops!

http://www.parkcirclediscgolf.com/park-circle-disc-course.gif (http://www.parkcirclediscgolf.com/)

I never really thought about any difference before making the above banner ad.

Sure enough, I was interchanging the 2 words thinking they were synonyms. I probably used cement because it was shorter and I could make the text a wee bit larger! LOL

In hindsight, I'd do it differently, but I really don't want to go back and change it now. Can I have a pass Dave? ;)

[Midnightbiker]

:(For years, I have heard many disc golfers and a particular top course designer say tee pads are made of cement. It has bugged me repeatedly and tonight I am finally letting it out for the sake of my own sanity. :D

Tee pads are made of CONCRETE! Even the Grammar Girl (http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/concrete-versus-cement.aspx) can help you with this one.

We have soldiers getting hurt and killed overseas and this is your main concern? Man, pick you battles more carefully.:(

[DirtyMittenDG]

Oops!

http://www.parkcirclediscgolf.com/park-circle-disc-course.gif (http://www.parkcirclediscgolf.com/)

I never really thought about any difference before making the above banner ad.

Sure enough, I was interchanging the 2 words thinking they were synonyms. I probably used cement because it was shorter and I could make the text a wee bit larger! LOL

In hindsight, I'd do it differently, but I really don't want to go back and change it now. Can I have a pass Dave? ;)

Come on man, how are you about to "concrete" the word cement like that? :rolleyes:

[DirtyMittenDG]

:(

We have soldiers getting hurt and killed overseas and this is your main concern? Man, pick you battles more carefully.:(

{To the lost souls} (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuvVQZPDbf4)

[Bassman76jazz]

I have always found this argument to be ridiculous. do you know what i mean when i say a cement tee pad? (rhetorical, please don't answer) unless you are in the industry than what is the point? (that you can answer) it seems to me that communicating to others what the tee pad is like is what is important not the terminology of the construction industry. technically it is correct to call it concrete, realistically it doesn't matter.

[scarwig]

I sniff rubber cement, does that count?

I'm pretty sure it's "Rubber Concrete" but it may be regional

[_.-Dut-._]

:(

We have soldiers getting hurt and killed overseas and this is your main concern? Man, pick you battles more carefully.:(

We have puppies dying homeless on the street without vetcare and you are taking the time to lecture people on the forums!? :(

[billnchristy]

I prefer cement over concreek.

[tstack10]

I like the grooved pads

[Craton]

Stable means stable.....as in stable......resistant to change of position or condition; not easily moved or disturbed; maintaining equilibrium; self-restoring. In disc golf terms, minimal high-speed and low-speed fade.

Well, if we're going to be having pet peeves, it's not high-speed fade- it's turn. Fade's at the end.

[Dave242]

You're right. I misstated that.

But is my mistake in being lazy and combining both tendencies of a disc to turn during its flight into the term "fade" really a peeve, or just nitpicking? :D Do lots of people mistakenly call "high speed turn", "high speed fade"? Nitpicking is a pet peeve of mine.......so I'll nitpick your post :doh:

[Craton]

You're right. I misstated that.

But is my mistake in being lazy and combining both tendencies of a disc to turn during its flight into the term "fade" really a peeve, or just nitpicking? :D Do lots of people mistakenly call "high speed turn", "high speed fade"? Nitpicking is a pet peeve of mine.......so I'll nitpick your post :doh:

Does it matter if a lot of people call it this or that, for it to be counted as a legitimate peeve? I mean, how many of us call it cement instead of concrete? I would say 80 percent of my friends call it cement- but just because of the majority do that, doesn't mean they are right, nor does it mean that it won't drive me crazy when they do.

When it comes to these vocab terms, I figure we should at least try to get it right since there are plenty of new players that start off with vocabulary terms such as "when it does that S thing" if you're lucky or "it makes like, shapes when it flies" if you aren't as lucky. Turn/Fade are what allow RHBH/FH, LHBH/FH players to be able to talk about discs without having to re-orient themselves. So yes, they are absolutely essential to get right :D

And to ask "is it my mistake for being lazy" kind of answers your own question it seems.

[mabraddock]

just give me a cement pond in my yard and i ll be happy either way...

[NothinButChing]

as long as the skip is solid dont care which one it is