Best Anhyzer Disc for Distance?

[john campbell]

I finally learned to throw a consistant anhyzer that will hold it's line, RHBH.
the disc? a 169g Innova Wolf. the problem? not enough distance.
I recently played a long hole that doglegged to the right after about 275', woods all along the right side. I threw the right angle, but couldn't get the distance, anhyzered beautifully into the thickest part of the woods. Anything out there similar that will fly further? Suggestions?

[Jimb]

My Champion Sidewinder serves me best for this type of shot. I don't know about anyone else, but my Millennium JLS holds any line I put it on really well. However I release it, it goes, whether anhyzer, hyzer or straight.

[Hamilton]

i like my champ valkyrie best for a good long annie...

[DiscBiscuit]

Beast and Wriath work well for me.

[landon77]

The Valkyrie will get you really good distance, I have recently upgraded to a Destroyer and it goes a little farther then the Valkyrie.

[valkyriefb11]

I've heard good things about using sidewinders for that type of shot.
For me I use my beat DX beast for long anhyzer shots.

[swarren1977]

A Sidewinder is a good disc, but you'll get a little more turnover with the Roadrunner plus the distance you're looking for. I'm assumning you have your technique down.

Beat-up DX drivers work well too.

[drkstr]

DX Beast or Wraith has been my choice on this shot.

[AdamH]

Roadrunners, Archangels, Sidewinders, Valks and beat in discs are all good for turnovers.

But remember, different discs are going to flip for different people depending on a number of other variables:

how much power you put on a disc when throwing
how beat in the disc is
the direction and strength of the wind

If a disc is flipping too soon, try putting more hyzer on the disc when you release. If it isn't flipping enough, try putting more anhyzer on it by adjusting the angle of release.

[danhyzer]

I'm left handed, so there's a lot of anhyzer shots out there. And I have found that lighter weights work a little better than heavier weights and I found that glow DX sidewinders are the disc I want when faced with a long turnover. I wish the Disc manufactors would make a reliable turnover disc. Other good turnover discs I like are Panthers, Stingrays and the old p-38 lightings.

[JR Stengele]

I use valks, roadrunners, or beasts.

[Tiggertooth]

I use Monarchs, and for shorter distances RoadRunners. I threw my favorite RoadRunner into a creek today and lost it :-( I tried using Sidewinders, but couldn't get them to turn very much. Where as I can get the Monarch and the RoadRunner to really turn.

For mid-range I use Cobras.

I believe that for a disc to hold a straight-line (against the natural fade) it needs to have a lot of spin on it. And that for a disc to hold an anhyzer line, it needs even more spin. Understable plastic reduces the amount of spin needed. And, I believe that the weight of the disc is directly proportional to the amount of spin needed for the disc to create loft underneath it.

All that is to say that to throw an anhyzer shot, that's breaking against the fade, you want an understable disc that's low enough in weight to match the amount of spin you put on the disc. I use to buy all my discs at 175gs. That seemed to be what everyone else was buying. But I eventually figured out that I don't put enough snap/spin on the disc for this weight--I'm not generating the spin necessary to create the lift for a 175g disc.

So I switched to lighter weight discs, and presto, I started playing better. At first I was puzzled by all this, because honestly if I close my eyes I cannot tell the difference between 165g and 170g usually. I've had people tell me they can tell, then I put the discs in their hands and they get it wrong about 50% of the time. (I'm not looking to start a fight here--just saying my experience.) So it isn't like I need the lower weights because I'm not strong enough (I'm a 6'4" male).

I also didn't think the weight had that much to do with the effect of the wind. I'm sure it has some, but that didn't account for it. So I finally did some experimentation and I think that the weight is really the determining factor of how much spin you need. And the more I worked on this theory (maybe it is obvious to everyone else) the more I believe it to be correct.

So if you're trying to throw Anhyzer, try going even lower in your disc weights. And if you want to throw farther, try going lower in your disc weights as well, to get more spin, and therefore more lift, and less desire to fade.

Of course I'm not a Ph.D. in physics, so I could be completely wrong on all that.

Ken

[trifocal]

What he ( Ken ) said. My experience ( approx. 250 rounds since June ) is similar but my experimenting with lighter weight discs has been curtailed with the snow and ice here. I'll pick it up again in the Spring.

As far as the Anhyzer goes, I throw a 175 Roadrunner. RHBH

The learning curve with the RR has been interesting. It was my first driver and early on my mechanics were such that I had to aim right to get the disc to land in the center of the fairway about 220. I was releasing the disc level to the ground.
As the season wore on, I became stronger and was getting 240-250 with the same line and angle of release. ( I had a Stratus in my bag for anhyzers, which was lost...thank heavens)
About August, I was throwing 36-54 holes a day. My x step was improving, I was getting deeper reach on my set up and a stronger follow thru. About that time the RR started turning over madly, flipping 120 feet down the fairway and rolling across the grass and into the leftside rough. What I didn't realize, was that I was releasing with my palm up. ( The palm deal was pointed out to me in Sept.)
So anyway, my go to driver has become a 150 foot roller into the rough and I make a disc switch to a Wraith .( 175 and 167 ) I loved the Wraith for the month of August. But, in September the Wraith started flippin on me and going right....never to return.
Well. Returning to technology I went to a 175 T-Rex. lol Thankfully, a fine player pointed out a couple of weak spots in my throw and I began concentrating on keeping my wrist and palm from flipping up. It took a month to relearn my throw.
Basically, I'd been just carrying my Roadrunner for 2 months, but with an improved release and a much better follow thru, the RR came back into play. The last few weeks on a left to right dog leg I had a bunch of nice throws with the RR. For me..assuming no wind...I aim down the left center of the fairway and release the disc about 20 degrees below level. A hyzer release. About 60-80 feet out the disc grabs the air and flips flat for half a second and then turns over and lasers down the righthand dog leg. I stunned myself a couple of times putting the disc behind the basket on 320 holes.
If there's wind....well...this has been long winded enough.

Yeah... Roadrunner.

[leathercash]

Man,I gotta say that my flick,yep the flick,is usually what I grab for a big spike annie. But you gotta have some spank on it to get it to spin and move well for you. Annie or spike annie.

[borndasaur]

For longer distance I use a roadrunner too. Wolf or stingray for the shorter shots. Broken in discs are easier to throw annie. But they get harder and harder to control the more broken in they get and beyond a certain point they become useful only in very specific situations. If you have enough power almost any disc can be thrown that way but for me (with less power than most other players) roadrunner is the best.

[sidewinder22]

Man,I gotta say that my flick,yep the flick,is usually what I grab for a big spike annie. But you gotta have some spank on it to get it to spin and move well for you. Annie or spike annie.

R u kidding? It must be beat up, cause I just got one today and can't get it to turnover anyway I throw it. Its the most overstable disc I've encoutered so far. I thought my champ banshee and boss were overstable, but the flick is crazy overstable brand new. Although I also never thought I could annie my banshee, but it is pretty sweet for that now after some decent mileage and good snap.

[Lewis]

Ken makes a good point. I've never understood why so many people only buy 170g+ discs, and it seems like some people buy exclusively 175g discs. If you're having trouble making the heavyweights turn over for you, buy your favorite mold in a lighter weight, like around 165-167g. You might be surprised at the difference.

[DiscChainBasket18]

Ken makes a good point. I've never understood why so many people only buy 170g+ discs, and it seems like some people buy exclusively 175g discs. If you're having trouble making the heavyweights turn over for you, buy your favorite mold in a lighter weight, like around 165-167g. You might be surprised at the difference.

True dat! This has made the biggest difference in my distance & style. Initially I had to arch my back to make a disc anny. Now I can run up with a more 'normal' style.

* My best turnover disc (that would stay flipped) is my old Champ Coyote. For longer shots my Star Roadrunner has been working well.

[leathercash]

R u kidding? It must be beat up, cause I just got one today and can't get it to turnover anyway I throw it. Its the most overstable disc I've encoutered so far. I thought my champ banshee and boss were overstable, but the flick is crazy overstable brand new. Although I also never thought I could annie my banshee, but it is pretty sweet for that now after some decent mileage and good snap.

Dude,I wish you could SEE how beat up it is(no camera),but I love it and I've got it to do the job A-OK.:D

[Karroll]

For long, slow anhyzers, you can't beat a DGA Squall. Not quite the distance potential of a Destroyer but very easy to control and not too flippy.

[Hamilton]

i know i said valkyrie, but my 16 month old son says the star roadruner does an awesome annie:



http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/889/2952/265684.jpg

[john campbell]

haha, that's awesome!

[DiscChainBasket18]

Yeah, start em out young!
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk270/jdubent08/112708%20Victor%20Ashe%20DG/P1010150.jpg

[valkyriefb11]

Yeah, start em out young!
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk270/jdubent08/112708%20Victor%20Ashe%20DG/P1010150.jpg

He's got better looking form than me! ;)

[DiscChainBasket18]

Yeah, better than me too! This is 3 y.o. Logan, my friend's grandson. He has a lot of energy & loved to throw a disc from the first time he tried it. He played 18 holes at Victor Ashe (long course) with us & never complained. He waited his turn & watched us throw then he would do a BH or side-arm depending on who he watched. His 'run-up' was hilarious. I wish I could/ve got it on video. He was hopping sideways towards the front of the teebox & he would unleash a big swing. When I looked at the pictures later I was blown away by his natural style. Check this photo:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk270/jdubent08/112708%20Victor%20Ashe%20DG/P1010143.jpg
I can't wait to see how he progresses in the furture.

[valkyriefb11]

You know, Im amazed at how natural the form is on young kids when they are able to start playing at a very young age. Keep him playing and in 10 yrs he'll be blowing everyone away ;)

[Hamilton]

yeah i hope my son takes an interest...

[Midnightbiker]

I use a beat Champ Roadrunner

[gusc2375]

i use a roadrunner for shorter shot but my sidewinder in champ plastic for longer slower turns

[WillA]

The best disc I ever had for this purpose a champ Beast.

[DiscChainBasket18]

The best disc I ever had for this purpose a champ Beast.
I'd say my champ Beast does this too. And it's long. It's just a little harder for me to control.

[john campbell]

i like my champ valkyrie best for a good long annie...

Since this was posted I picked up a Champ Valkyrie and keep trying to get that long annie, but it continues to fade back to the left every time. I tried giving it all the spin I can to hold the line, but I just can't figure it out. Same with my Champ Monarch - fades back left. Both of these discs do a beautiful S curve, but won't stay to the right, the "slice" I'm looking for. My Star Leopard does it and my old DX Wolf and even my Voodoo putter, but I still can't throw the long annie drive that holds. I'll try the Roadrunner and Sidewinder next. I've never thrown either. I'm also going to lighter discs, 165-170 (instead of 175s) and finding that this has helped a lot. Thanks for all the feedback!

[landon77]

I've recently got a sidewinder in star plastic that is an excellent anhyzer disc.

[landon77]

also dx plastic is much easier to turn then star or champion plastics.

[valkyriefb11]

So if I have trouble throwing a distance anhyzer, I should get a DX sidewinder, beat it in, and that shoudl turn easily for me ...

[Donovan]

I'm not sure how the new Innova Groove will stand up with the ANI, but Latitude 64's Vision is a bee line long distance fast ANI disc for sure. It holds that ANI line almost to a fault if throw with some force.

[sidewinder22]

150 discs are much easier to annie, like a dx valkyrie, sidewinder, beast. I have a 150 champ valk that is one of the easiest disc for me to turn. Also my 150 dx beast I have a hard time making it go left.

[john campbell]

I'm not sure how the new Innova Groove will stand up with the ANI, but Latitude 64's Vision is a bee line long distance fast ANI disc for sure. It holds that ANI line almost to a fault if throw with some force.

150 discs are much easier to annie, like a dx valkyrie, sidewinder, beast. I have a 150 champ valk that is one of the easiest disc for me to turn. Also my 150 dx beast I have a hard time making it go left.

wow. I'm going to try both of these things. I've never thrown or seen a Latitude 64 disc and have never thrown anything lighter than 167 (other than my first putter - a 150g Aviar, NOT RECOMMENDED)

hey, Donovan, I multi-quoted! :D

[Donovan]

wow. I'm going to try both of these things. I've never thrown or seen a Latitude 64 disc and have never thrown anything lighter than 167 (other than my first putter - a 150g Aviar, NOT RECOMMENDED)

hey, Donovan, I multi-quoted! :D

HA! I'm glad it worked for you bro!

[_.-Dut-._]

Wraith seems to hold an anhyzer line well without wanting to fade out much if at all. If these are too stable then I would suggest a Sidewinder.


Ive also heard good things about the Valkrye, Beast, and Roadrunner for this shot, but dont have any personal experience with them.

[elevated plastic]

Roadrunner or Skeeter IMO

[tamahawk]

champion roadrunner is my favorite disc for the anhyzer. i had a monarch as well, but didn't like it as well as my roadrunner. for shorter shots, i have a DX Stingray that works great!

for a turnover shot that fades back nicely, it's hard to beat the valkerie.
i have a really old, very beat up DX valkerie that turns over hard and works great for a roller.

[BENFTS]

a few months ago i had to transition from RHBH to LHBH because i hurt my shoulder. now when playing most of my go to courses they have a lot of great RHBH long hyzer's, but not so friendly for someone playing LHBH. i use a FLX surge ss and a star Valkyrie depending on the shot. for bigger distance over 350' i like my surge and for more turn i use my Valkyrie.

i carry a roadrunner but use it for boomerang style turnover shots and some rollers. roadrunner is great and so is a sidewinder but you will get better and you will outgrow them, so start off with a Valkyrie or a surge ss.

[Wheat]

I throw a star roadrunner for any distanced annie.

[Donovan]

I know it is late in this thread's discussion, but you might also look at a Discwing Quarter KII. Some of my longest drives ever have been with this disc. But I do have a noodle arm after all. :D

[DannyM]

I know it is late in this thread's discussion, but you might also look at a Discwing Quarter KII. Some of my longest drives ever have been with this disc. But I do have a noodle arm after all. :D

^^^^Yep, same problem here...weenie arm in comparison to most I play against...but what does work for me as far as an anhyzer disc that will hold the line well....star roadrunner 162g. I do have Star sidewinders, and champ Monarch, all very good discs, but fades harder than the rr tends to. I usually throw it for straighter shots, but if I do need a good ani without a hard fade at the end of the flight I use my RR. Typically though if I need a right turn, I throw forehand.

[tom04]

beaten esp surge

[westxchef]

For golf shot control I like a slightly beat Star Wraith 325-400ft

For all out distance (someone mentioned this one before) a Discwing QKII
one of my longest throws ever, flying almost the entire way anhyzer, 515ft

[mynameistim]

I throw a semi-beat champion beast for long turnover shots.. if you aren't looking for that much added distance maybe try a leopard? I know the archangel is supposedly really understable but I found for me it doesn't hold a very good anny.

[progprowl]

I'm Partial to a Champion Beast. My Wraith will actually hold lines pretty well.

[Cradical]

I like the skeeter or the sidewinder for annies. Although I usually just throw forehand, and if a hole doglegs the other way I throw backhand. If it's only a slight dogleg right, I throw a backhand annie with the skeeter.

[Midnightbiker]

I use a 155 Monarch and it flies nice and far with a nice anny.

[cc0049]

Champ teebird

[_.-Dut-._]

Champ teebird

^^ Good one. I am just finding out how good of a anhyzer these things can hold.

[80playedin10states]

almost any disc can be an anhyzer disc...once again , this isn't rocket science...what works for you isn't going to work for everyone...some people can't turn things over as easily as others, due to arm speed, or just being new to the game, etc..

[willstradamus]

I say a Wraith

[sidewinding]

I've found that the domier top discs with huge amounts of glide work great for holding anhyzers. The Skeeter is one such disc and the Tbone is another.

[milow369]

I like a beat up CE Valkyrie for long anhyzers that will almost always come back.

For shorter shots, under 300' I can't beat my DX stingray. (Although recently came across a champion stingray that I hope will have similar characteristics - haven't been able to throw it yet)

[JR Stengele]

CE Valks and beat up wraiths/SL's

[Noel757]

For max distance anhyzers (>350) I find a somehwat beat up viking works great. This is of course actually throwing an anhyzers not turning the disc over. Long disance turnovers I like to use a beat up valkyrie, T-bird. I usually use a forearm throw in that situation tho unless its 350' plus. Happy Discin