A use of small spaces...A course that loops around on top of itself?

[ReedyCreekProduct]

Suppose you have an interesting space that could fit 4-5 decent fairways, but you want to make a 9-hole course. Has anyone seen anything like this?:

A course with 5 baskets and 9 tee pads.

Basket 1 has 2 tee pads, at slightly different locations and angles. One tee pad is for hole number 1 driving, and the other is for "hole number 6" driving.

Basket 2 has 2 tee pads at different locations and angles. One is for number 2 driving, and the other is for number 7 driving.

Basket 3 would have a tee pad for hole 3, and another tee pad for "hole 8".

Of course, hole 5 would have just one tee pad and be used only once during a round. So when you're done with hole 5, you walk back to hole 1/6 and throw from the number 6 tee pad.

Yes, it could get boring to play the same fairway twice in a round, but perhaps you could, for example, make the angle/location of tee pad 6 different enough from tee pad 1 to change the complexion of your strategy on that same "fairway"( a fairway that doesn't neccessarily have to be well-defined anyway).

Anybody seen a course, private or otherwise, anything like this? Anyone thought of doing this with limited space?

[Dave242]

I did this at Cameron Yards (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=26) in Charlotte. Go it out since you are in town. :)

There is a map of the 18 hole layout with just 3 baskets. BTW, it is just as hard (easy?) a course as Reedy (original pads, long baskets). As such, it is a legitmate 18 hole course and playing experience......it just does not "feel" that way until you play a few rounds and get used to the unusual flow.

[Dave242]

Here is a map of the original/short 9 holes:

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3774&stc=1&d=1265834755

[Dave242]

Just to give you some thoughts, I did the same sort of thing with my home and 2 temporary baskets. The flow is not nearly as good though, but with the neighborhood streets being OB, it is a legitimate challenge.

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3775&stc=1&d=1265835096

[GLong]

pine grove in maryland - does not get good reviews unfortunately but is a beast of a course. Some of the toughest 'par 3' golf I have ever played - I think only hole 16 might be a legit par 4. 18 holes, 9 tees - with one or two alternate baskets. It plays like a totally different course forwards and backwards. I know that some tees and pin locations have been modified over the years, but considering that it was built in the mid 80s, I think the course design has definitely stood the test of time.


i think the key is finding as many unique looks as possible and picking out some tougher greens. Strong course design is the only way to make a looping course effective both when it is installed and in the future.

[mashnut]

Groves park in Tucson has 9 baskets, but dual tees in each direction (forward and backward) for 18 short and 18 long holes. It was actually a fun little course to play, though layouts like that aren't very good for tournaments or heavy use due to safety and courtesy issues.

[DavidSauls]

I once played a 9-hole course (Oregon Park?) that was set up like this. Two sets of tees, not necessarily short and long but at significantly different angles to the fairway. Play each set, you've played 18 holes.

Your solution's not as good as a full 9-hole course, but better than a 5-holer....or no course at all.

[optidiscic]

Just to give you some thoughts, I did the same sort of thing with my home and 2 temporary baskets. The flow is not nearly as good though, but with the neighborhood streets being OB, it is a legitimate challenge.

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3775&stc=1&d=1265835096

So that's the compound! I love it.....what do your neighbors think of you when you get the discs ripping in the neighborhood!!!:hfive:

[DSCJNKY]

Enka High near Asheville, NC... 7 minutes from my house. I play it all the time.
It has 11 baskets with 18 tee-pads...
It's never busy so the overlap works out just fine.

Decently fun course too. I'm not mad at it.
DSCJNKY

[wolito]

Groves park in Tucson has 9 baskets, but dual tees in each direction (forward and backward) for 18 short and 18 long holes. It was actually a fun little course to play, though layouts like that aren't very good for tournaments or heavy use due to safety and courtesy issues.

I haven't played this one yet, but will in a couple of months. I printed out the map and looks a little confusing. Need to study that before I play there. I think that these types of courses could work if everyone knows how to play them to avoid confusion.

[jeremytf]

This course is a private version like that:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=1506

It also shares the course with a par 3 ball golf course, which means most of the holes are pretty open. But they do get some challenge with terrain undulation and trees. Most of the disc golf fairways parallel the ball golf ones rather than use the same grass. That doesn't mean there aren't spots where you have to wait if someone is ball-golfing, but it's never busy when I've been there.

Actually I just realized it's the opposite of what you're asking - two baskets for each tee. But the idea is the same...

[ReedyCreekProduct]

Dave242,

That is some wild stuff, man. I need to check out Cameron Yards to see this idea in action. Thank you so much for the maps. I've heard about C.Y. but I didn't really grasp the concept. I live on the far opposite end of the Charlotte region, but I hope to play it sometime. I've also heard that Cameron can be played at night--which is a nice plus.

The Compound? Wow. Just wow.

[ReedyCreekProduct]

Dave242,

Looking at your Cameron Yards map.....Are 7 and 1 supposed to be roughly the same drive if you don't use the alternate tee pad for 1?

[ReedyCreekProduct]

Groves park in Tucson has 9 baskets, but dual tees in each direction (forward and backward) for 18 short and 18 long holes. It was actually a fun little course to play, though layouts like that aren't very good for tournaments or heavy use due to safety and courtesy issues.


I was gonna ask about that concept next: The idea of using the fairways both forwards AND backwards. I could see that being good for somebody's backyard where they won't be running into other parties.

Thanks!

[ReedyCreekProduct]

And thank you for the same, Glong.

[Dave242]

Looking at your Cameron Yards map.....Are 7 and 1 supposed to be roughly the same drive if you don't use the alternate tee pad for 1?

The "alternate" is the real tee actually. Tee 1 and the mando on #2 are not used in reality - they are just on the map which is posted 2 places on the course to demonstrate to any potentially concerned party that safety was factored into the design.

Use this map (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_files/26/0b4c33cd.pdf) (.pdf) to find all 18 tees - marked by white tiles in the ground.

[WindyCityROCer]

2 onto you Dave... my cousin and I tried to do that (the neighborhood course) at my uncles in NE Indiana.... great land!, nobody knows what DG is, and most have guns and wonder "what the F ya'll doing on my property"

[DavidSauls]

I was gonna ask about that concept next: The idea of using the fairways both forwards AND backwards. I could see that being good for somebody's backyard where they won't be running into other parties.

Thanks!

Cape May Park/Zoo is a public courses that runs forward and backwards.