Are you an object snob?

[nygfaninva]

We play at a great object course here in Va, but we find a bit of reluctance by many players to come out and try it, because it doesn't have baskets. I love baskets and yes, the course would be better with them, but it still is a great course layout and a lot of fun, but why are people so snobbish toward object courses? When I mention it and get to the part about it being an object course, some people sigh or roll their eyes, give me a break. Object courses are what started the game and there is nothing wrong with them. In some ways they can be harder.....just wanted to discus. Do you and your friends act like object courses are beneath you? Just wondering.

[swellerdiscgolf]

I don't think it's beneath us, but we just love the sound of the chains. Maybe if the object decided to yell or scream when it got hit?? :)

Just wondering, where is this course at?

[DirtyMittenDG]

Me and some friends made a 27 hole object course down the street from our hood years ago but dont really play it anymore, its where I got my first ace (even though I dont consider it a real ace). Its fun every once in a while but I would never drive out of my way to play one.

-Theres nothing like the sound of chains!!!!

[Hamilton]

still being new and not knowing much about the history of DG...i'm ashamed to say this if the first time i've heard of an object course...i might have to try this at the park around the corner from my house (that i wish they would install a DG course at, they're trying to)...any tips on what to use as targets, just trees? or other things?

[nygfaninva]

The Park is in Colonial Heights in White Bank park. On this site its listed and has a great map for the course. If making an object course, the targets are best marked with bright tape on trees or poles and such. Mark the tape with a top and bottom and simulate the size and width of a basket. Gottafixit, on this site actually designed White Bank and would be far more helpful on how to set one up than me.

[DirtyMittenDG]

still being new and not knowing much about the history of DG...i'm ashamed to say this if the first time i've heard of an object course...i might have to try this at the park around the corner from my house (that i wish they would install a DG course at, they're trying to)...any tips on what to use as targets, just trees? or other things?

Well what we did, was spray paint 2 horizontal lines on a tree and then put the hole number in the middle. How big the space inbetween the 2 lines depended on how wide the tree was. And I know most places you cant just casually spray paint trees but we did it in an abandoned gravel pit so it wasnt really vandalizing anything. If you wanted to use this method at a park then chalk might be a good temporary option.

[Hamilton]

i was thinking maybe some of the orange 1" wide plastic streamer you get at Home Depot when you buy something that will stick out the back of your car, so people can see it...if that makes any sense...

[Dooley]

I would say I'm an object snob. I've played "dinger" courses in several states. Thats what I've always called them, due to the fact I've always heard them to be called tone poles, so it's a dinger to me! I call a "dinger" a drive or upshot that hits the pole under the basket too. But of course only IN the basket counts, unless you're playing a dinger I guess.

I'm a snob about it for the record. I choose not to play the two or three near me in denver, co.

Hey StarV, Funny that you mention that because I've played some spray painted trees near flint. First time I played Flip City, you could still see the faded spray painted lines and numbered trees just like you did. Maybe you can still see it, I don't know it's been years, But I'm going over Christmas, Snow or Shine!

[Robert Scott]

I've never seen an object course, But back about 8 or 9 years ago there were somethings that you could buy that was not a basket. It was about a 6 foot tall 4X4 with a 1 of 1.5 ft long 4X4 that stuck out to the side making a 90 angle at the top(like an upside down L). It then had one chain that went from the end of the 1ft long to about a foot from the top of the 6ft tall one (kind of forming a P). I don't know how you played with them but I guess you would place the thing in the ground and then try to hit the chain or make it between the chain.

I do not know if I would really like a object course really as I have a bad time already with tree messing up my disc.

[The Valkyrie Kid]

Way, way back in about 1977, I was working at the recreation department in a small town called Fircrest in Washington state. My boss at the time showed me an article in a recreation magazine about this new sport some people were playing in California called Frisbee Golf or Folf. So we decided to build our own Frisbee Golf Course. We set 6" round poles in the ground with a number at the top. The problem was whenever you putted, you aimed at the very bottom of the pole near the grass line. So we were always having these arguements about whether your disc hit the pole or stopped short by an inch or so. On the rare occasion when someone would hit one from 100 feet or more, probably 50% of the time there was a question about, did it actually hit. It was a few years later that we finally got the brillant idea to paint a couple of lines up higher on the poles to throw at.

That course was the first permanent course built in the Northwest. It's still there today. I don't think anyone has played it in many years and I haven't bothered listing it on this site because I wouldn't want anyone driving any distance to waste their time playing it.

So when I am planning a trip, if I see a course is an object course, I will automatically cross it off my to play list.

[Fore]

My parents have a decent sized backyard and I used to go over there and set up 2-3 object holes. I would practice different shots and approaches then change it up. They had a tire swing hanging from a tree that I used to use when I played baseball. It was one of the objects and worked for putting practice until I got my portable basket.

[Midnightbiker]

One day I had to take my wife to work for a few minutes for her to take care of some business. While waiting outside, I took my putter out of the trunk, and turned the green area in front of the business into an object course. Great way to practice your game when you are not near a course.

[DGtourist]

I'm not a snob, just a chain junkie.

[solomon.trenton]

We play at a great object course here in Va, but we find a bit of reluctance by many players to come out and try it, because it doesn't have baskets. I love baskets and yes, the course would be better with them, but it still is a great course layout and a lot of fun, but why are people so snobbish toward object courses? When I mention it and get to the part about it being an object course, some people sigh or roll their eyes, give me a break. Object courses are what started the game and there is nothing wrong with them. In some ways they can be harder.....just wanted to discus. Do you and your friends act like object courses are beneath you? Just wondering.

i have never played at an obect course but i throw towards random spots on the ground all the time. what do you throw at instead of baskets?

[Flies to the Left]

Never have gotten a chance to try an object course.

Two of the courses that are near that I have played on have been upgraded and the poles are still laying around. I have one other private course that is one hour away in the foothills, but I never realized it was object until I just searched for one. If I am ever near that course I would go play it just to say I did it once.:D I won't be going anytime soon now that there is snow on the ground.

I think an object course would be harder. Many people wouldn't play one because of that. Those are the same who complain about custom or inferior baskets.:p

[Geoffro]

I began playing with chains, so got addicted pretty quick. I'm not a "snob," but for me, hitting a tree was always a bad thing. To readjust my thinking to hitting the right tree has been a bit of a challenge.

It's a good question, though - would you rather play a mediocre course with chains, or a really well-designed course that challenged you in a bunch of different ways that ended each hole with smacking into a tree? I hate to admit - I don't have an immediate answer to this.

Ching did well naming their company.

[sub ceroh]

As long as I have a disc in my hand im happy!!!!:)

[Midnightbiker]

i have never played at an obect course but i throw towards random spots on the ground all the time. what do you throw at instead of baskets?

Trees, light poles, signs, what ever you can find to hit. The occasional "Port-A-Potty" is fun to hit too. Just make sure there in nobody inside. You will literally scare the crap out of them when the disc hits the side of the wall at 50mph. Their reaction will be ----->:eek: and then when they see you it will be --->:mad:

[swellerdiscgolf]

My cousin, who plays up in WV somewhere, said that was how he got started, just a bunch of friends throwing at different things and then when he was in the Army, he played when he could over in Iraq.

It sounds like fun, but how long does it take to set up an object course (on average)? We have a park down here in Norfolk that the city and residents have been fighting over for a while. The city wants to put up million dollar houses and the residents want to leave it ta park. The funny thing is the park buts up against a lower income area so nobody would want to pay a mil for a house, and nobody is ever walking through it using it as a park. Does anyone know who I could try to contact about desiging and installing a course there? I don't have the time with a full time job and two kids and a wife who complains when I do go play once a month, or when I'm on DGCR.:(

[biscoe]

i got started playing object golf with lids before i knew the "sport" of disc golf existed- like many others we thought we had come up with it ourselves. it's great for playing in parks/areas where you simply cannot play to baskets.

however, once i started playing baskets i definitely became an "object snob"- for one thing i feel that playing objects screws with my putting.

i also started playing in the richmond area where there were very good object courses in maymont, bryan, university of richmond campus, and forest hill parks. maymont is the only one i would play on any sort of regular basis because it is such a beautiful place to get to throw a disc. u of r was good for checking out co-eds but too busy with non-golfers for regular play.

i'm not trying to be critical but from the photos of white bank i've seen it appears flat , semi-wooded, and fairly short- what aspects of it make it preferable to the basket courses in the area?


sweller- is that the park where mook d and robzilla hold a tournament once a year? i'd probably recognize the name if you told me but i know it's over by Ocean View.

[Robert Scott]

The funny thing is the park buts up against a lower income area so.... nobody is ever walking through it using it as a park. :(


The Hoyt Grove course in Stillwater, OK is like this, on the north side there is a lower income area. The only problem is the kids that live there have nothing else to do but tear things up. They ripped up the course pretty good when it was first put in, Stealing basket #1,#2,and #18 in the first month. The signs were all Destoryed and basket #18 is missing again. All the baskets have places there they have been hit with things. There was a BMX track in the park too and the city took it out I'm sure for the reason it was ripped up and they did not want anyone to get hurt and sue the city.

I don't think the Course will be take out as I do not think is the city that payed for it ot be put in.

[ERicJ]

Does anyone know who I could try to contact about desiging and installing a course there?
http://web.mac.com/bigchiz/DGCD/Welcome.html

[biscoe]

designing the course will be the least of the problems- getting approval is the hard part, as well as the most "local-centric" part (needs to be spearheaded by taxpayers from the area in question).

get it approved and i'll be happy to come down there for a weekend and design it. mike august is a solid designer from your area as well.

[discflinger]

As long as the scenery is nice, I'll shoot for cow pies.

[biscoe]

As long as the scenery is nice, I'll shoot for cow pies.

ace!

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn144/jb9456/merhipix033.jpg

(there are baskets at hawk hollow though)

[discflinger]

OMFG!! That mutha stuck! What was the reverberation like when you hit it? Could you hear it, or was it just like it hittin' the fan?

[biscoe]

...actually it was a birdie 3 on a par 4 hole, i could hear the audible plop because i was about 10 feet away (not my shot)- funniest thing was a couple of guys had come down from maryland to play the course and one of them had forgotten his discs so he was playing with loaners from his buddy when he tossed it in there.

[discflinger]

Sweet ****...uh...Have you seen the Barber Gutwillig and the boys recently. I haven't checked them out since Sammy left, but always play hot ****.

[biscoe]

it's my name- the disco biscuits can't have it- i had it first!!!

[WillA]

We have some object courses here in Murray that we played before we got a course with baskets. Now the only one we play is at the quad at the college because it's well lit and great for night play.

[magictenor1]

I started playing on an object course at Southern Mississippi back in the early 80's. I didn't realize the sport had changed and that there were basket courses until around 9 years ago.

[nygfaninva]

I agree there is nothing like the sound of the chains rattling, but a good object course can be a great day out. Many have mentioned the setting and I also agree with this, a beautiful etting can make up for no baskets as long as the object course is set up nicely. I was just wondering about the attitude I have found when it comes to object courses, many DGers I have met would almost rather NOT play then play them and I am totally opposite, DG is DG, and I enjoy both object and baskets. And I admit Baskets preferred, but Object DG is still a great day out.

[Aaron D'Angelo]

Which park in Ocean View is that Sweller? I used to live down there in my Navy days, though where I lived has been bulldozed and rebuilt. heh. I'd probably recognize the park too.. can think of a couple but not the names.

[DWill]

Like others, I started out playing an object course. I played that from 1978 to 1982, that's when I played my first basket course or pole holes as we called them back then. To me, the baskets made it much more legitimate. No more arguments when throwing blind shots if it hit the object or not. It is either in the basket or it wasn't. When I go on disc golfing trips, I avoid playing object courses. It's like going from a lid to a bevel edge disc.

[nygfaninva]

So would you say you're an object snob now, DWill?

[DWill]

So would you say you're an object snob now, DWill?

My preference is to play courses with baskets, so I don't know if that makes me a snob or not. Next time I visit my brother in Raleigh, I will stop by and play your course.

[sidewinding]

An object course is like a Ford. They should only be chosen as a last resort. The best advice I can give anyone in life is "Don't ever buy a Ford ever, never, ever!!!". I didn't listen to my Grandfather and am now paying the price every day.

[Hamilton]

i've had great luck with fords...they used to be crap but lately they are just as good or better quality-wise than gm...and i now own a grand prix which has also been great...now chrysler on the other hand, don't get me started...

[DiscChainBasket18]

Your lucky to have an 'object' style course available to you. Seems like it would be quite a bit different from bangin' the chains. I'd love to play one!