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bazkitcase5
12-23-2008, 11:53 AM
I would like to know what people who fill out the hole info. for their local courses do for the different colored tees.

Being most players and members of this site are casual players, they do not understand what the different tee colors mean or what level player is best suited for each tee color. So lets start a discussion. If you are one of these players, what do you do when filling out the hole info for your course? Do you just randomly pick a color and put down the hole information for that set of tees?

It would be nice, as the sport and this site continues to grow, if we could get a better standard set. The PDGA tee guidelines list the following, with my interpetations for better understanding:

Gold Tees - basically the toughest tees... the tees where a gold level player (1000 rated) also known as a scratch golfer (in golf terms) would be expected to shoot par - to shoot under on these tees is to play like a top pro - very few courses have true gold tees

Blue Tees - basically the advanced level tees or a 950 rated player... an advanced level player would be expected to shoot par on this course from these tees - to shoot under would be to play like an good advanced player or a weak pro, or if you shoot way under (very low scores), maybe a gold level player - on most courses on this site that have long and short tees, the long tees would likely fit here more times than not...

White tees - basically the intermediate level tees or a 900 rated player... an intermediate level player would be expected to shoot par on this course from these tees - most courses with short tees would likely fit here

Red tees - basically the novice/recreation/casual player level tees or 850 rated player - these players would be expected to shoot par on this course from these tees - these would likely be the beginner tees on courses already considered pitch and putt, meant to help newer players learn the sport without being too difficult

you can also go to the following link to check out the tees and how it is suggested that par be set for each type of hole with a specific player skill set in mind for each particular tee
http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/ParGuidelines.pdf

Also, I was also curious as to what people did when they were filling in course info and a course has 18 regular tees, and say 5 shorter tees. Do you list all the regular tees under 1 color and list ONLY the 5 shorter tees under a different color or do you list every tee for both colors, but where there are the 5 shorter tees, substitute them in for the longer tees on that particular hole?

timg
12-23-2008, 12:04 PM
I normally go by whatever the course has listed on its scorecard. So if they use purple, orange and gold, those are the colors I'll use. For the 4th set of tees I'll choose "No Color" so it doesn't show up. Regarding the short/long tee thing, I'll sub the longer tees in for the shorter color so the site adds up the totals correctly.

ERicJ
12-23-2008, 12:06 PM
I would like to know what people who fill out the hole info. for their local courses do for the different colored tees.

My first choice is usually to match the DGCR color to the actual color of the physical tee signs on the course.

If the course has green signs I'll use green. E.g. Moffitt (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=680&mode=hi) has green posts for the main tees and red posts for the alternate "A" tees. See pics in the gallery.

If there's one sign per hole that lists multiple tees on it then I try to default to the PDGA Red, White, Blue, Gold ranking. Red is short, Blue is long. Whites for intermediate if they exist. I rarely use Gold. E.g. Burke Crenshaw (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=445&mode=hi) has one tee sign with two tees listed on it.

Imperial Park (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=2561&mode=hi) has blue tee signs and yellow bricks in the ground marking main and alt tees respectively so I colored those blue and yellow.


Also, I was also curious as to what people did when they were filling in course info and a course has 18 regular tees, and say 5 shorter tees. Do you list all the regular tees under 1 color and list ONLY the 5 shorter tees under a different color or do you list every tee for both colors, but where there are the 5 shorter tees, substitute them in for the longer tees on that particular hole?

I list a full compliment of distances for every tee color. That makes it possible for a player using the DGCR Scorebook feature to select the tee color played and get all the correct distances.

E.g. Westminster (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=869&mode=hi) only has dual tees on hole #1. The remaining 17 holes are all single tee.

ERic

bazkitcase5
12-23-2008, 12:37 PM
Regarding the short/long tee thing, I'll sub the longer tees in for the shorter color so the site adds up the totals correctly.

I list a full compliment of distances for every tee color. That makes it possible for a player using the DGCR Scorebook feature to select the tee color played and get all the correct distances.
ERic

Good points. I have started doing the same for similar reasons.

Also, it makes better sense to use the colors designated by the course itself, so that players playing the course for the first time will not get lost looking for a tee color that is not there. I suppose the "standardization" will have to come from the courses themselves.

Aaron D'Angelo
12-23-2008, 03:11 PM
My local course Newport News DGC in VA has the tees backwards. The Red Tee's (the concrete tee pads are actually red) are the longer Pro Tees and the Whites are the Intermediate/Rec Tees. Weird.

bazkitcase5
12-23-2008, 06:45 PM
yea, the PDGA has only come up with those standardized tee colors in recent years - most courses have been around a lot longer than that

it will take a long time for all the courses to catch up, assuming they even attempt to, but it would make the sport more professional when you can go to a new course for the first time and know what tees fit your particular skill level

Robert Scott
12-23-2008, 11:21 PM
If there is only one set of tees/pins I would put them as RED. There is a course here in Stillwater, Hoty Grove, it has red white and blue tees. Dirt tees with a 4X4 stuck in the ground. The 4x4 have been messed up by kids that live near by so the red and white ones are had to find if you don't know where they were. The Blue tees are the ones everyone plays so they are easy to find. However someone put the hole info in as red and entered distances but I've found a few of the signs and the info they entered is different then what is on the sign. So the hole info on the Hoyt Grove course is messed up. I'm going to try to get it measured out sometime soon and enter the right info.