where do you miss your putts?

[bmeyaard]

I have been frustrated lately due to hitting the front of the basket *way* too often. Where do you miss putts when on the course?

That said I didn't really have any data to prove to myself that this was happening more than the rest of my missed putts... perhaps it was simply the most frustrating and memorable. I put together (and attached) this "putting diagram" that I'm going to print a set of for each round. Has anyone else used something like this to good effect when practicing or playing?

[ERicJ]

Most of the time I'm short. But I find your diagram idea intriguing.

ERic

[biscoe]

missing short or long is much more readily correctable than missing left or right- it's really just a speed problem rather than being offline somehow. i don't get mad at myself for missing short unless i'm doing it repeatedly- missing to the right is what really ticks me off.

[RustyP]

Interesting diagram..I've never bothered to track my misses *that* closely, but most of mine are in 1 of 3 places: dead center on the basket (most often), high and on the right side of the chain assembly top, or whiffing past the chains on the left side.

I play a putting game called Pozzy Putting (http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2730). Throughout a round I'll putt 50 times at the very least, and since I started playing regularly again I've found that I can usually tell if the putt is going in and, if not, where it's gonna miss as soon as it leaves my hands.

[YonderScott]

When I miss it's usually short. I usually blame this on using a girl's putter.

[sub ceroh]

I usual miss when Its for par.

[Jungle Tim]

i always miss left, especially on jump putts, I always pick a link about 2-3 chains right of the pole at about mid way up

it weird because if compensate right, i miss right?!?!?!

[Lewis]

I tend to miss short, but that's the way I prefer it. Erring low or short leaves you with a shorter follow-up putt than missing high or long, which makes it feel like a safer putt. So I like to let my putts die in the basket. I usually miss really long putts to the right because tend to I overestimate the fade on my putter. Again, I'd rather miss right (RHBH putting) because that tends to leave a shorter follow-up putt.

It's just a matter of "playing it safe."

[Fore]

On my misses, most come up short or hit the front of the basket. The diagram is a pretty cool idea. I have never thought about it that close until this topic.

[valkyriefb11]

I usually miss short on my putts, but lately Ive been frustatrated by hitting the front of the basket ... I hate being that close, but still missing. I just need to practice putting a lot more this year to improve my game.

[sidewinding]

0'-15' range - I don't miss.

15'-30' range - If I miss it's usually low, especially uphill or with a tail wind.

Outside of 25' - If I miss it's probably 2:1 to the left due to fade.

[solomon.trenton]

Most of the time I'm short. But I find your diagram idea intriguing.

ERic

i second that.

[borndasaur]

The chart is a great idea. Thank-you!

[zud00]

If my putter had absolutely no fade whatsoever, I would hit 75% more putts. Most of the ones I miss are to the left due to the fade. Good poll and nice chart.

[ejvogie]

Where do I miss putts??

Every course i play on :(

[Jimb]

[QUOTE=sidewinding;21990]0'-15' range - I don't miss.

You're a machine. :D

[PanicKJ]

I get a little frustrated myself for leaving it short. I practice at home at least two to three hours or more a week (15 minute intervals) and at home I drill the putts, but when I am playing a round it seems like I lose power somewhere and leave it short more than I would like.

[Geoffro]

I wish the poll would have had an "all of the above" choice. That's me. :o

[Donovan]

I love the chart...I think you could learn alot by using the chart and playing Pozzy's Putting Game. In a few rounds and by recording your misses, I bet you can really learn something fast.

Oh before the questions come here is the link to the Pozzy Thread (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295&highlight=pozzy).

[kpc2004]

I love the chart...I think you could learn alot by using the chart and playing Pozzy's Putting Game. In a few rounds and by recording your misses, I bet you can really learn something fast.

Oh before the questions come here is the link to the Pozzy Thread (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295&highlight=pozzy).

I 2nd that :cool:

[Disc Chainy]

I seem to miss long alot. I'm always hitting the top ring of the basket. I've even parked them up there before:(

[Donovan]

Here is that great putting diagram made into 30 smaller versions that can print on one sheet. You can find whatever uses you want, but I think I will use it with the Pozzy Putting Game and write in the distance of the missed putt. If you did this enough times, I think you could chart these in excel and you might see if your miss positions change as your distance changes. Should be real interesting. :cool:

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=713

[Riley]

Thats pretty cool. I think I will print these up and use them. Thanks.

[D.W.G.]

I miss them all over the place, but mostly to the right... I have been struggling so much that I have started throwing my mid-range Buzzz... I hit the chains most of the time with this disc, but it tends to want to slide through the chains... I need to get the cheapest movable basket and set it up in the basement, and just throw disc after disc...

[Fore]

Here is that great putting diagram made into 30 smaller versions that can print on one sheet. You can find whatever uses you want, but I think I will use it with the Pozzy Putting Game and write in the distance of the missed putt. If you did this enough times, I think you could chart these in excel and you might see if your miss positions change as your distance changes. Should be real interesting. :cool:

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=713


Thanks for this. I printed the single and doing this never occured to me.

[sidewinder22]

I hit my first 9 of 10 20fters last night with my flx surge! I thinking about switching to it now.

[Donovan]

I hit my first 9 of 10 20fters last night with my flx surge! I thinking about switching to it now.

NICE! I love the FLX SURGE! Oddly enough, when the wind is strong, I putt with my 175 Tee-Bird.

[_.-Dut-._]

Most of my misses seem to miss to the right, ussually knicking the chains and bouncing off. I have "somewhat" repaired this by adding a little hyzer to my release.

[valkyriefb11]

NICE! I love the FLX SURGE! Oddly enough, when the wind is strong, I putt with my 175 Tee-Bird.

I was playing in a snowstorm about two weeks ago and it was so windy I was putting with my new boss :P the funny thing is it actually worked pretty well in the gusts

[`cjc]

I have improved my short putting game dramatically after watching this video and following Mark's advice. I have switched to only practicing with the putters (no more than 2) that I use when playing a round while limiting my putting practice to 15 minutes sessions (once a day).

helpful advice: http://www.discraft.com/vid/html/dg10.html

[Donovan]

You know the interesting thing about this pole is...

If you now know where you are missing your putts, you should be able to adjust where you are aiming and start hitting more putts.

If you miss right aim that much more to the left.

If you are short, imagine the basket that much farther back from where it really is and aim for that.

We should be able to compensate for these if this is where your misses are fairly consistent.

[_.-Dut-._]

You know the interesting thing about this pole is...

If you now know where you are missing your putts, you should be able to adjust where you are aiming and start hitting more putts.

If you miss right aim that much more to the left.

If you are short, imagine the basket that much farther back from where it really is and aim for that.

We should be able to compensate for these if this is where your misses are fairly consistent.


The only negative to this would be if your missing due to technique failure. When I miss right its because I dont release the disc with the right timing. So if I was to aim further to the left, I would now only hit dead center when I screwed up. My good releases would hit far left and have a greater chance of kicking out.

I agree that its good to know where you miss, but so that you can try to find a way to reduce that error, not try to compensate for it.

[thatguy]

Mine usualy sweep around the right and go long, that is when they don't hit the basket and bounce off!

[Ishulebest]

I didn't see a poll option for "at every course i play" so I didn't know how to vote :D

[solomon.trenton]

i have been sinking almost every putt lately. i just miss a few around trees.

[zoox]

most of the pins in stl have a green strip of tape displaying the hole#. i usually use that to guide my putt.

[JR Stengele]

In the last tournament I played in I was making all my long putts from 50 feet and in but for some reason the ones within 10-15 feet that were wide open I hit the top or bottom of the rim. I compare it to a receiver who runs across the middle of a field and catches a ball in front of the DB's and just missing the linebackers but when I run a streak (straight ahead) and am all alone I drop it. It was just that kind of day but fortunately I was playing doubles so he made those for me. I was probably just overly excited about hitting the other big putts. I need to work on not rushing and relaxing.

[valkyriefb11]

i have been sinking almost every putt lately. i just miss a few around trees.

Ill be checking this out ... we'll see just how good you are ;)

[swellerdiscgolf]

I miss mine all over, but I know how to fix most of my problems...
miss high - lower the nose
miss low - raise the nose
miss right - change my hand placement on the disc

My buddy pointed out to me during the last round that when i was missing to the right, I was holding the disc around about 3 o'clock. When I changed my grip to about 12 or 1, I was dead center. It was weird but when I tried the throw without the disc, I noticed my hand was pointing off to the right before and straight at the basket afterward.

[bjreagh]

NICE! I love the FLX SURGE! Oddly enough, when the wind is strong, I putt with my 175 Tee-Bird.

Me too!!! I putt with a 175 TeeBird when the wind is super strong. Glad to know I am not alone. I am honored that I have something in common with the great DGCRer Donovan!

[sidewinding]

In tournaments I miss everything outside five feet low due to pucker factor. One of the great mysteries of DG is how to overcome putting pucker factor during a tournament. Pucker factor is fun to say and write in forums. I can's stop thinking about pucker factor. Pucker factor... Pucker factor... Pucker factor...Pucker factor...Pucker factor...Pucker factor...

[teamudgp]

Consistently missing is worse than missing consistently. If you miss left over and over, you can usually correct it with one thing ( moving your back foot to square up better ). If your missing all over the place, then get your drives close.

[CaptainAnhyzer]

the secret to making putts is consistency.......... be consistant in your stance, your grip, your breathing, and only use one type of putter for practice AND game. If you play with an Aviar, buy 3-4 more for the practice basket.

I've had my own basket for 12+ years and for the first 5 years, i had 3 Aviars, 3 Magnets, and two 76 Softies for practice. The only thing i got out of practice was a sore back from picking discs up off the GROUND.

[TalbotTrojan]

I like the answer, "Ha, I don't miss putts." I wish that were true most of the time. Usually by the last 9 of 36 holes in a day I either will start hitting the front of the basket or like today I start hitting the top where the chains hang down from. I like the ones that go in best though.

[bdamcat]

I chose "left" because "everywhere" wasn't an option.

[Donovan]

Me too!!! I putt with a 175 TeeBird when the wind is super strong. Glad to know I am not alone. I am honored that I have something in common with the great DGCRer Donovan!

OMG! I am glad to know someone else does that too, but bro you got to layoff the "great" stuff, it gives me the HeebeeJeebees! :eek:

You can call me bro though! ;)

[Magnus]

I didn't see a poll option for "at every course i play" so I didn't know how to vote :D

Ditto.

Or "In my head"

:o

[Magnus]

In tournaments I miss everything outside five feet low due to pucker factor. One of the great mysteries of DG is how to overcome putting pucker factor during a tournament. Pucker factor is fun to say and write in forums. I can's stop thinking about pucker factor. Pucker factor... Pucker factor... Pucker factor...Pucker factor...Pucker factor...Pucker factor...

Just don't switch the two leading letters of that phrase!

:)

[leppard]

The ones that stick in my mind are short. I like the idea of using a chart to record and verify that.

[bazillion]

I miss my putts on the disc golf course. Nowhere else. I'm very exclusive that way :D

[wolito]

Seems like I kind of miss short at times and hit the front. Now I am missing more off to the left as I try to put more power behind my throws.

[bikinjack]

I miss my putts on the disc golf course. Nowhere else. I'm very exclusive that way :D

So, you don't have a practice baasket?:p I miss quite a few there too.

[Cyclops]

Depending on the distance of the putt. Normally I'm short or I hit the basket (low). It's all a matter of how much risk/reward I can take. Safe bet is to lay-up and be short. It drives me nuts when you go for it and overshoot the basket by 50 feet. Add a stroke or two?

[alx133]

to the right.
you catch me yelling 'up not out' to the sky

[cbeckett22]

I play a putting game called Pozzy Putting (http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2730). Throughout a round I'll putt 50 times at the very least, and since I started playing regularly again I've found that I can usually tell if the putt is going in and, if not, where it's gonna miss as soon as it leaves my hands.

This is pretty cool. My friends and I play "around the world" like in basketball. The first shot is rather easy, and every shot gets a little farther/harder than the last. You can only use 2 discs, and if you miss both shots, you have to start all over. It really makes you focus, because it really sucks to have to start again from the beginning, or even worse to have to replay the first shot. lol :doh:

[Trashthrasher]

Front-of-Basket

[shoe59]

everywhere lately

[Trashthrasher]

Front-of-Basket

everywhere lately

This as well.:(

[TalbotTrojan]

Ah, the return of an old but good poll. Things have changed for me since I found a better putter.

[DaBus85]

As of yesterday I missed putts anyway possible. I didn't look but was there an all of the above option for the missed putts. By far the worst putting day of my life. I had trouble hitting basket from 10' away. I'm not going to say I'm a good putter but I'm decent and it was just a horrible terrible day for me. Good thing it was only a tourney I had my worst day putting in and not some casual round haha!!

[sloppydisc]

They generally land in the dirt near the basket, but I have put a few in the water before.

[WaDoosh]

I miss putts everywhere on every course on every basket at every event with every putter!! Man, I suck at putting...

[howardb]

Found myself low all day at the course yesterday...so my answer is on target but low..( in front of basket)..

[Terry C]

the secret to making putts is consistency.......... be consistant in your stance, your grip, your breathing, and only use one type of putter for practice AND game. If you play with an Aviar, buy 3-4 more for the practice basket.

I've had my own basket for 12+ years and for the first 5 years, i had 3 Aviars, 3 Magnets, and two 76 Softies for practice. The only thing i got out of practice was a sore back from picking discs up off the GROUND.

This is so true. I played for a lot of years before I realized that you should find one putter that works and stick with it, buy several of them and stick to that type of putter exclusively and you will be way more consistent. Recently I have been really frustrated with my putting, I was missing 15 footers and shanking lay up puts that I should have been able to drop right next to the basket, they were flying 20 feet to the left or right of the basket. I came home and dug out 5 old Aviar putt and approach discs from my "extras" stash and I have been only using them and getting much better results. The Aviar is what I started with and what works best for me. I was making the mistake of thinking there was this magic putter out there that would work wonders but what I realized is I had the right putters for me collecting dust the whole time.

Back to the basics.

[billnchristy]

I have had way too many hit chains pretty square and still manage to fall out, or rim the basket and fly out. It really makes me mad because what the hell can you do about those?

[gkeberhart]

I have had way too many hit chains pretty square and still manage to fall out, or rim the basket and fly out. It really makes me mad because what the hell can you do about those?

I have the same problem, and then you have no confidence in hitting 10ft putts because they will splash out

[Terry C]

I have the same problem, and then you have no confidence in hitting 10ft putts because they will splash out

Thats the worst feeling, your within a stroke or so of your friend and your playing a pretty tight game and then you miss a couple putts from like 10-15 feet and all confidence and swagger goes out the window after that.

[sloppydisc]

have had way too many hit chains pretty square and still manage to fall out, or rim the basket and fly out. It really makes me mad because what the hell can you do about those?

If you are consistently hitting chains and having them fall out could you be throwing too hard? I have seen some guys really letting it rip on putts even when they are close. Maybe you need to let up a little. It seems like putts bouncing off chains and the cage should be pretty rare. When I miss I do it right, and really shank it. No doubt it was my fault.

[Trampy1]

The front of the basket is a magnet for me! No matter what I do, my disc just bangs the top ring of the basket. I would be a much better player if I could only putt.....

[Jukeshoe]

Left...:\

[shoe59]

I have had way too many hit chains pretty square and still manage to fall out, or rim the basket and fly out. It really makes me mad because what the hell can you do about those?

I get quite a few of those with my KC avair (just picked it up and am trying one for the first time). My soft magnet does much better with minimizing splash outs, if it gets a decent piece of metal it's sticking.

[Fly Stevo Dynamite]

I either totally wuss the putt or, crash into the front of the basket.:doh:

[chuckdisc]

I usually miss short on my putts, but lately Ive been frustatrated by hitting the front of the basket ... I hate being that close, but still missing. I just need to practice putting a lot more this year to improve my game.

same here.... I order a new putter the SS Voodoo..

[Huk Finn]

Front of basket. I need to aim nose up just a tad more often.

[JMONEY]

Long short left and right.