New tear my bag apart thread.

[teebob]

I throw RHBH and RHFH.
Drivers
175g Star FL Newish (Head winds, Meat hook, hyzer,flex shot)
170g Star FL Beat to heck (straight slight right to left finish)
170g Star FL Semi Beat ( Back up )
175g Avenger SS Beat ( Hyzer flips finishing to the right, long turnovers)
175g Avenger SS new ( Long turnovers that come back some, for now)
171g 1.1 SOLF Just right for now ( Hyzer flips, Tailwind Drives that finish straight.
175 Champ Boss Flat top (sidearm shots only,any distance, get out of trouble disc)

Mids
171 Star skeeter NICE ( most mid shots)
I know these arent mids but they work just as well if not better
175g elite X XL New (touch shots)
175g elite x XL beat (short turnovers, straight to slight left finish)

Putters
2 wizards ( Short drives, Long Ups, putts outside 50ft. One new one backup.
2 Omegas ( Putts inside 50 ft).

Have fun gentlemen.:D

[craftsman]

A pred or firebird and a real midrange;)

[BrotherDave]

How far are we throwing and how (RHBH, FH, etc.)?

I'm not a big fan of FL's but if it works for you, kudos. I'd definitely compliment that Skeeter with a Roc though.

[teebob]

How far are we throwing and how (RHBH, FH, etc.)?

I'm not a big fan of FL's but if it works for you, kudos. I'd definitely compliment that Skeeter with a Roc though.

Ave drive flat ground 370-400
Why do ppl always say get a roc, I hate the lip it is awkward for me. I do have a buzzz and never use it.

[CwAlbino]

I'd say a teebird, or other brand equivalent (striker or stalker). I use the teebird and FLX XL for straight shots, the flx plastic brand new is straight straight straight.

[BrotherDave]

Ave drive flat ground 370-400
Why do ppl always say get a roc, I hate the lip it is awkward for me. I do have a buzzz and never use it.

Where there's smoke, there's fire, discs don't get popular for nothing.

I love Skeeters but I'm surprised you can get by with it as your only mid if you can drive 350'+. If you don't like the beaded mids, try a Core (someone back me up, I don't think it has a bead) or a Nebula if you can find one.

Your XLs and ASS's might overlap a bit too. I can't tear your bag up too much, it seems pretty well thought out.

[teebob]

I love Skeeters but I'm surprised you can get by with it as your only mid if you can drive 350'+. If you don't like the beaded mids, try a Core (someone back me up, I don't think it has a bead) or a Nebula if you can find one.


I use my boss for a lot of crazy suff It wasnt made for. I keep telling people it is the best mid range on the market that is under utilized as a driver. :D

[eegor]

I agree with you on the Roc... the bead is awkward for me, too... and I use a first run Skeeter in DX... great disc.

I also use an elite X XL for touch shots, but I use a lighter 167gm for more agility.

Your disc choices are similar to mine... the only thing I see, if you can get it, is an 11X champ Firebird (flatter top / more overstable) as another forhand disc. It's more controllable than the Boss on forehand shots. It will also be more of a "meat hook" disc than the FL. Good luck finding one... The 12X is OK... I have both, but the 11X is better.

[teebob]

I agree with you on the Roc... the bead is awkward for me, too... and I use a first run Skeeter in DX... great disc.

I also use an elite X XL for touch shots, but I use a lighter 167gm for more agility.

Your disc choices are similar to mine... the only thing I see, if you can get it, is an 11X champ Firebird (flatter top / more overstable) as another forhand disc. It's more controllable than the Boss on forehand shots. It will also be more of a "meat hook" disc than the FL. Good luck finding one... The 12X is OK... I have both, but the 11X is better.

I was thinking of getting a lighter XL in X for more controled shots. I have a lot of plastic laying around its just not in the bag. I have a firebird that may fit in for some shots as my boss is somewhat flippy at times. Might also check out a core or that newer mid L64 released.

[toothyfish]

try a Core (someone back me up, I don't think it has a bead) Correct, no bead.

Your XLs and ASS's might overlap a bit too.

I wear XL so thay do overlap my A$$ a bit...:D

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I would give it a go with either the XLs OR the Avenger SS's, and see. The fact that you use the XLs at shorter range suggests that you may feel you have better control and confidence in them...


As far as the bead on the Roc, I agree, it can be uncomfortable, and I abandoned the Roc for a few months. But after a while, I was intrigued by the beat DX Roc following, and tried it again. Took a while to get used to but the combination of new and wearing DX Rocs is amazing...

At minimum, I would commit to using your Buzzz a bit more. It will feel different than your drivers in hand, but worth it for the control you can get on the shorter range shots.

[teebob]

So i pulled out an old FB to give it a go and killed it :thmbdown:http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae201/teebob1/DEADFB.jpg
The tree jumped in front of it I swear.

[gsw_03]

I throw RHBH and RHFH.
Drivers
175g Star FL Newish (Head winds, Meat hook, hyzer,flex shot)
170g Star FL Beat to heck (straight slight right to left finish)
170g Star FL Semi Beat ( Back up )
175g Avenger SS Beat ( Hyzer flips finishing to the right, long turnovers)
175g Avenger SS new ( Long turnovers that come back some, for now)
171g 1.1 SOLF Just right for now ( Hyzer flips, Tailwind Drives that finish straight.
175 Champ Boss Flat top (sidearm shots only,any distance, get out of trouble disc)

Mids
171 Star skeeter NICE ( most mid shots)
I know these arent mids but they work just as well if not better
175g elite X XL New (touch shots)
175g elite x XL beat (short turnovers, straight to slight left finish)

Putters
2 wizards ( Short drives, Long Ups, putts outside 50ft. One new one backup.
2 Omegas ( Putts inside 50 ft).

Have fun gentlemen.:D

1. invest in a high-speed driver. if you're *really* throwing 370-400ft and accomplishing that with FLs and avengers, you should be able to realize an extra 50-75ft of distance with a true distance disc. recommendations include nuke, destroyer, wraith, force, boss, katana, not in any particular order.

2. if you don't like the feel of the roc, buzz, or wasp, maybe give the mako or gremlin (discmania) a try. the gremlin flies more stable to overstable when new, and the mako flies like a longer putter. both are dependable.

3. learn to use those XLs as fairway drivers. otherwise, invest in a teebird, cyclone, tracker, stalker, striker, etc.

[volmed10]

Originally Posted by teebob
I throw RHBH and RHFH.
Drivers
175g Star FL Newish (Head winds, Meat hook, hyzer,flex shot)
170g Star FL Beat to heck (straight slight right to left finish)
170g Star FL Semi Beat ( Back up )
175g Avenger SS Beat ( Hyzer flips finishing to the right, long turnovers)
175g Avenger SS new ( Long turnovers that come back some, for now)
171g 1.1 SOLF Just right for now ( Hyzer flips, Tailwind Drives that finish straight.
175 Champ Boss Flat top (sidearm shots only,any distance, get out of trouble disc)

Mids
171 Star skeeter NICE ( most mid shots)
I know these arent mids but they work just as well if not better
175g elite X XL New (touch shots)
175g elite x XL beat (short turnovers, straight to slight left finish)

Putters
2 wizards ( Short drives, Long Ups, putts outside 50ft. One new one backup.
2 Omegas ( Putts inside 50 ft).

Have fun gentlemen.

1. I concur with your dislike of the Roc. I use a Buzzz instead, which I find flies perfectly and the rim doesn't tear my index finger apart. And once you learn to throw it well, you will be able to use it for any shot, whether it be hyser, anny, straight, etc. The only thing I use my Rocs for now is putting. I know, call my strange, but for some reason I can putt better with it than any "real" putter. I still carry putters, but they are used for drives and upshots only.

2. Invest in a Teebird. It took me a little while to realize how great of a disc it really is, but now that I have it will never leave my bag (or its 3 twin brothers).

3. Get a fast driver. Halo would be my choice, but it will add some D on holes that you need it. I carry a Halo, and then my next fastest disc is the Teebird. I can get my TB out to 400', so the Halo is for anything longer than that.

4. Pred or Firebird. Get whichever feels better. It will be a good multi-purpose disc for headwind, hyser bombs, forehand, thumbers, etc. I use mine quite frequently.

[teebob]

1. invest in a high-speed driver. if you're *really* throwing 370-400ft and accomplishing that with FLs and avengers, you should be able to realize an extra 50-75ft of distance with a true distance disc. recommendations include nuke, destroyer, wraith, force, boss, katana, not in any particular order.

2. if you don't like the feel of the roc, buzz, or wasp, maybe give the mako or gremlin (discmania) a try. the gremlin flies more stable to overstable when new, and the mako flies like a longer putter. both are dependable.

3. learn to use those XLs as fairway drivers. otherwise, invest in a teebird, cyclone, tracker, stalker, striker, etc.

1 Im hitting that distance with any disc even speed stable ones. I also have small hands so those huge lipped discs are not beneficial to a good grip.

2 mako is booty imo, discmaniwhat?

3 I throw my xl's for fairway shots all the time

[BrotherDave]

2 discmaniwhat?


Discmania, they're like the Euro version of Millennium in that Innova molds their discs. I love their PD (power driver).

[keltik]

I throw RHBH and RHFH.
Drivers
175g Star FL Newish (Head winds, Meat hook, hyzer,flex shot)
170g Star FL Beat to heck (straight slight right to left finish)
170g Star FL Semi Beat ( Back up )
175g Avenger SS Beat ( Hyzer flips finishing to the right, long turnovers)
175g Avenger SS new ( Long turnovers that come back some, for now)
171g 1.1 SOLF Just right for now ( Hyzer flips, Tailwind Drives that finish straight.
175 Champ Boss Flat top (sidearm shots only,any distance, get out of trouble disc)

Mids
171 Star skeeter NICE ( most mid shots)
I know these arent mids but they work just as well if not better
175g elite X XL New (touch shots)
175g elite x XL beat (short turnovers, straight to slight left finish)

Putters
2 wizards ( Short drives, Long Ups, putts outside 50ft. One new one backup.
2 Omegas ( Putts inside 50 ft).

Have fun gentlemen.:D

Putters look fine

Mids: drop the Skeeter and try a CRO it's like a skeeter but stable. a Core is like a domey Buzzz. My best advice is to get used to the bead of the Roc. if you are throwing 370-400 a skeeter would fly like a paper plate for you.

the XL does the A-SS shots better than the A-SS and it is absolutely not a Mid. if you want a touch mid get a Comet or learn to throw your putter or you can throw that skeeter for turnover touch shots.

I'm not sure about the FL but I know the SOLF can do everything the FL can do and then some. and I also second getting a Predator or the xXx. the Pred/xXx does all those "crazy boss shots" better than you can imagine.

so I suggest a bag like this:
SOLF
XL
Predator

CRO or Buzzz or RocRoc
Skeeter

Wiz
Omega

[garublador]

1 Im hitting that distance with any disc even speed stable ones. I also have small hands so those huge lipped discs are not beneficial to a good grip.I throw in that distance, too and have also found that faster discs don't really me you anything.


3 I throw my xl's for fairway shots all the timeHow far do you throw them on golf lines?