New Disc Browser!

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Take a look under the Members menu for the new Disc Browser. You can now see all the discs on the site, limit it to only those available for trade, check out all the losts discs and all sorts of other fun stuff.

As always, if you notice a problem please let me know.

[valkyriefb11]

totally awesome! :D :D
havent found and glitches yet
Thanks Tim!

[solomon.trenton]

You the man. another great upgrade. Now it will be rivaling discaroo.

[REDARMY]

i like it!

noone wants to trade a TL apparently though.... :(

[srm_520]

I've had one issue so far when looking for a disc by zip code - it gave me the message

Database error 3 encountered

This script cannot continue, terminating.

Maybe I'm just retarded, or I figure I'm limiting my search too much - but just an FYI

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The zip code thing should be fixed.

[srm_520]

Okay one more for you - sorry, I've been playing with this feature since it's pretty friggin sweet, and I noticed - as an example - I'll search by manufacturer - Say Areobie. Okay it comes up with it's several hundred pages - that's cool. I try Ching - I comes up with 2 pages - so I click to see the second page and all it shows me are Areobie discs. I back out and nothing. I'd tried it again refreshed and backed out completely with the same results.

Play with it, fix it, and play with it some more right? :) Good work though - I love this site more everyday.

[ERicJ]

Bug:
View all Tradable Discs (226 found).
Enter "Tee" in "Model Name Starts With" field and click Submit.
Effect is the City field auto-populates with "Tee" and nothing changes on the disc displayed results.

ERic

[ERicJ]

Previous bug appears with just about any Model filter I try.

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Both of those bugs should be fixed

[ERicJ]

Tim,

It's been suggested before... but now there's a real reason to start posting/hosting pictures of discs.

I think either the organizer or the filter needs another improvement to compensate for the variability of different model names.

E.g. "TeeRex", "Tee-Rex", "Tee Rex", "TRex", etc.

Either (1) allow regular expressions in the search filter, or at a minimum wildcards (RE's would be better)
-or-
(2) make the disc models a site enforced standard with a drop-down menu list of choices like the manufacturers and plastics.

ERic

[ERicJ]

Both of those bugs should be fixed
Confirmed.

New global organizer rocks. This is gonna skyrocket the trade action on DGCR. :)

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I'll think about the picture thing. Regarding the models, the reason I do it the way I do is I just didn't want to keep track of all the models out there. It would be a daunting task.

Regarding the regular expression thing, that might be overkill and I would be willing to wager that many visitors probably wouldn't be able to put one together. On a side note, these two wildcards will work.

"%" Matches any number of characters, even zero characters
"_" Matches exactly one character

[solomon.trenton]

Tim,

It's been suggested before... but now there's a real reason to start posting/hosting pictures of discs.

I think either the organizer or the filter needs another improvement to compensate for the variability of different model names.

E.g. "TeeRex", "Tee-Rex", "Tee Rex", "TRex", etc.

Either (1) allow regular expressions in the search filter, or at a minimum wildcards (RE's would be better)
-or-
(2) make the disc models a site enforced standard with a drop-down menu list of choices like the manufacturers and plastics.

ERic

i like Erics idea. this way typos will be avoided and common names for discs like the tee rex would be avoided as well. chalk another one up for Eric:)

[ERicJ]

Not sure how easy it is to do with your form code, but it'd be nice if checking "Show ONLY Tradable Discs" greyed out the other disc status boxes.

I.e. the standard form would never generate this URL:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/disc_browse.php?country=0&condition%5B%5D=1&condition%5B%5D=2&condition%5B%5D=3&condition%5B%5D=4&condition%5B%5D=5&mfr=0&model=roc&plastic=0&bagged=1&loose=1&lost=1&trade=1

[valkyriefb11]

Tim,

It's been suggested before... but now there's a real reason to start posting/hosting pictures of discs.

I think either the organizer or the filter needs another improvement to compensate for the variability of different model names.

E.g. "TeeRex", "Tee-Rex", "Tee Rex", "TRex", etc.

Either (1) allow regular expressions in the search filter, or at a minimum wildcards (RE's would be better)
-or-
(2) make the disc models a site enforced standard with a drop-down menu list of choices like the manufacturers and plastics.

ERic


You make some good points. If there was a way to post pictures of at least discs for trade that would be really good. But I dont know how feasible that would be.

As for the variability in names I think an improvement might be good ... I noticed that it was a bit difficult to search for the tee-rex (that was the one I tried) and get all the results, so maybe an improvement would be good ;)

[ERicJ]

Regarding the models, the reason I do it the way I do is I just didn't want to keep track of all the models out there. It would be a daunting task.
Yeah, that's why I figured you hadn't done it already. It'd be cleaner, but more work.


Regarding the regular expression thing, that might be overkill and I would be willing to wager that many visitors probably wouldn't be able to put one together. On a side note, these two wildcards will work.

"%" Matches any number of characters, even zero characters
"_" Matches exactly one character

Any chance you could at least change those to "*" and "." (or "?") respectively? That way they're at least closer to what the geeks will expect.

ERic

[valkyriefb11]

I'll think about the picture thing. Regarding the models, the reason I do it the way I do is I just didn't want to keep track of all the models out there. It would be a daunting task.

Regarding the regular expression thing, that might be overkill and I would be willing to wager that many visitors probably wouldn't be able to put one together. On a side note, these two wildcards will work.

"%" Matches any number of characters, even zero characters
"_" Matches exactly one character

I take too long to post :p

[Three Putt]

577 Wraiths owned by DGCR members...even more than Rocs! :eek:

I'll go out on a limb and declare the Wraith the official DGCR disc.

[Three Putt]

Whoops! Spoke too soon! 689 Aviars +19 more that were entered as "Avairs."

This is a very fun way to waste time!

[zud00]

Sweet feature! I had no idea that so many people used the disc tracker! I hope to be able to hit up some trades with this addition.

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Any chance you could at least change those to "*" and "." (or "?") respectively? That way they're at least closer to what the geeks will expect.


The site will now translate * to % and ? to _ for the model so you can use whichever one you'd like.

[bethehole]

Ok, I'm very new to the sport so please don't hit me but what dose bagged or loose mean when viewing discs?

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Bagged means the disc is currently in someones bag. Loose means it's currently not being used (ie. being stored in the garage).

Bagged/Loose are my made up terms.. they're not official DG terms.

[ERicJ]

Whoops! Spoke too soon! 689 Aviars +19 more that were entered as "Avairs."

Speaking of misspellings... The "random" name allowance is kinda fun though...

How many different "Buzzz" variations are there? Search for "buz%".

You find one "Buzzzzz" (in Champion plastic).
A Pro-D "Buzzzz".
There's an FLX "Buz".
Easily over 100 "Buzz".
A "Buzz FLX .5"
"Buzz Stripes" ??
"Buzzz-D"
"Buzzz (Modified Wasp)"

and on and on...

[valkyriefb11]

Whoops! Spoke too soon! 689 Aviars +19 more that were entered as "Avairs."

This is a very fun way to waste time!

Ive been browsing since he put it up, its really addicting ...

I think this makes using this site to trade so much easier and using other sites not really neccessary anymore :)

[ERicJ]

577 Wraiths owned by DGCR members...even more than Rocs! :eek:
Gotta do the right search.

"*roc*" returns: "869 Discs Found"

But there's some other stuff in there like "Rock-it" and "Rocket X2". But there are four Innova "Rocks". Am I missing any other non-Roc discs in "*roc*"?

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But there's some other stuff in there like "Rock-it" and "Rocket X2". But there are four Innova "Rocks". Am I missing any other non-Roc discs in "*roc*"?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b67/DarrenPittman/IROCZ-3.jpg

:D

[ERicJ]

That better be "Loose" and not "Bagged"!

[nicfit]

Nice work Tim, this site is turning out to be incredible and you're just getting started! Awesome.

Some ideas, if I may... I've often wanted the ability to mark my discs as "Driver", "Mid", "Putter".. so that when I'm looking at my collection I can filter and sort based on disc type. This may be useful for traders too, but mainly I'd like it for taking stock in my bags and more importantly building new bags (show mid-range discs that are loose, choose, etc.) To take it one step further, the ability to specify a discs stability (and maybe even speed) would allow cool filtering for viewing a collection. Example, show all the understable fairway drivers, overstable mids, etc.

So, not only would it be great to collect this info for display but you could theoretically build a table much like Marshall Streets flight chart that is personalized to the user's bag! I have a spreadsheet much like that which provides a great /view/ of a bags "balance". I'm of course talking about this excellent flight chart: http://www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.com/disc_golf_flightguide.html

I suggest adding "Distance driver", "Fairway driver", "Mid-Range", and "Putter" (also maybe "Touch/Approach") for disc type. Unless there are other/better suggestions.

Stability is a whole different list and very debatable (you need more than 3 to dial it in IMO) so I'll save that...

Again, killer job on this site!

-travis

[cocopop]

Sorry Tim, I'm new and can't figure out the disc organizer. I found the link from your thread, but how do i access it from my dash? When i go to disc organizer i can only view mine. also i have been trying to list a disc in my bag as a "trade" disc, can't figure it out. plz help

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The disc browser link is under "Members" in the main menu.

To list a disc as being available for trade you have to click the little pencil to edit your disc and you'll see a "For Trade" checkbox. From there it should be pretty easy to figure out.

[cocopop]

Fantastic!! That was easy! Thanx for the help! I do alot with Discaroo, but I will do more here. I would quit Discaroo completely if you considered adding pictures. You know the saying "A picture says a Thousand words".
Thanx again Tim

[landon77]

Excellent feature that I will put to use! Thanks

[ERicJ]

Some ideas, if I may... I've often wanted the ability to mark my discs as "Driver", "Mid", "Putter".. so that when I'm looking at my collection I can filter and sort based on disc type. This may be useful for traders too, but mainly I'd like it for taking stock in my bags and more importantly building new bags (show mid-range discs that are loose, choose, etc.) To take it one step further, the ability to specify a discs stability (and maybe even speed) would allow cool filtering for viewing a collection. Example, show all the understable fairway drivers, overstable mids, etc.

So, not only would it be great to collect this info for display but you could theoretically build a table much like Marshall Streets flight chart that is personalized to the user's bag! I have a spreadsheet much like that which provides a great /view/ of a bags "balance". I'm of course talking about this excellent flight chart: http://www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.com/disc_golf_flightguide.html

I suggest adding "Distance driver", "Fairway driver", "Mid-Range", and "Putter" (also maybe "Touch/Approach") for disc type. Unless there are other/better suggestions.

Stability is a whole different list and very debatable (you need more than 3 to dial it in IMO) so I'll save that...

IF you went down this path then I think it'd be better to do what I listed in option #2 below:

I think either the organizer or the filter needs another improvement to compensate for the variability of different model names.

E.g. "TeeRex", "Tee-Rex", "Tee Rex", "TRex", etc.

Either (1) allow regular expressions in the search filter, or at a minimum wildcards (RE's would be better)
-or-
(2) make the disc models a site enforced standard with a drop-down menu list of choices like the manufacturers and plastics.

With that method each disc could have it's own associated properties (name, driver/mid/putter type, stability, speed, etc.) that would be consistent across all DGCR members.

Obviously filling in the database would be a chore at first, especially for older models of discs. To facilitate that maybe Tim could set it up, at least for a while, as open so that all members could edit it. I'd envision something like a Disc Organizer that belonged to the site (DGCR# 0) rather than any specific member. The organizer would contain one of every disc known. Heck it wouldn't have to contain anything to start. The users here could add the discs themselves. Obviously properties like color, weight, and condition wouldn't be applicable... and you'd need new properties like type (driver/mid/putter) and stability ratings. Perhaps you use the numbers from Joe's Flight Chart (http://gottagogottathrow.com/discgolf/pdf/JoesFlightChart1.pdf)?

Anyway, just continuing the brainstorm there.

ERic

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Then there is the question of how you would get the 15,000 existing discs into that system. That would have been easier to pull off earlier but with so many discs now many might be left in an uncategorized void.

Plus there is the constant maintenance of keeping disc models current and people requesting to add various special editions, etc.

[ERicJ]

Then there is the question of how you would get the 15,000 existing discs into that system. That would have been easier to pull off earlier but with so many discs now many might be left in an uncategorized void.

Every user would be responsible for choosing the correct disc from the new dropdown options for all the discs in their own organizer.

Plus there is the constant maintenance of keeping disc models current and people requesting to add various special editions, etc.

Perhaps the DGCR#0 organizer stays public for people to add new discs but not to change existing ones. We wouldn't want people later to say "Oh I think this disc is -1.5 HHS instead of -1.0 HHS".

Official variations like Firebird vs. FL and even more subtle variations like TeeRex vs. TeeRex and Eagle-L vs. Eagle-X would be officially supported. But things like first run Boss is more understable than subsequent release Boss would not. That sort of information would have to go in the individual disc's "Notes" field.

Again... just brain stormin' here.

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Well what's to stop someone from entering TeeeRex into bag #0? Either way, a lot of moderation would have to be done.

It would be better to compile a list ahead of time and slowly add to it then to allow anyone to add any model at any time. What I would do (assuming I had a bunch of time) is to compile a list of models for each manufacturer. If you don't see the model you're looking for, there would be an "Add Model" button where you could enter a model to be added. I'd have a list in the admin area of suggested models and I could approve them at which point they'd be an active choice in the disc organizer.

It would be nice to do the same thing with plastic too. That way if I pick Innova discs I'll only see Innova models and Innova plastics. I still think keeping up with something like this and making sure it's accurate would be a lot of work. It would definitely be very cool once it was done though.

[ERicJ]

Well what's to stop someone from entering TeeeRex into bag #0? Either way, a lot of moderation would have to be done.

In the beginning it's open to everyone for edits. That's how it comes up to speed fast. If some idiot enters "TeeeRex" some other more intelligent member or member with better typing skills will fix it when they see it. Once Bag #0 is sufficiently seeded you can lock it down for moderation additions only.

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I wonder if I could just write to Innova/Discraft/Gateway and they could provide me with an xls of all their models and plastics :)

[cocopop]

I wonder if I could just write to Innova/Discraft/Gateway and they could provide me with an xls of all their models and plastics :)

That is gonna be the best option. That way typo's, plastic types, sub models (ie..Super Roc, Teerex-X, ect...) wouldn't even be a factor. Besides, it is free advertising for them. It might also open up the option of them suporting the site in the future, with links, news letters, and such.;)

[ERicJ]

That is gonna be the best option. That way typo's, plastic types, sub models (ie..Super Roc, Teerex-X, ect...) wouldn't even be a factor.
Unless the mfg forgets to list 'em...

[JR Stengele]

I wonder if I could just write to Innova/Discraft/Gateway and they could provide me with an xls of all their models and plastics :)

That would save you some serious time.

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It's worth a shot. Maybe I'll give it a try this weekend.

[Hamilton]

LOL i tried to search for "innova monarch" and only one disc out of seven pages was checked as trade-able...is there any way to filter out those that aren't marked OK for trading?

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Yes, on the right hand side of the top box choose "Show ONLY tradable discs".

[_.-Dut-._]

Very cool, thanks Tim

[Three Putt]

I just downloaded a xls spreadsheet off PDGA.com that lists all 433 approved discs. It was under PDGA HQ-Technical Standards-PDGA Approved Discs XLS (1-20-2009 draft). It does not tell you what plastics they were released in (other than the CE discs, which are oddly listed separately) and does not account for things like Eagle L- Eagle X, but it's a start.

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I wrote to all the companies requesting disc info except for Blackjax, Farusa Verk, Lightning, Instep, Wham-O and Aerobie. Those were excluded because they either make one or two known models (ie. Aerobie) or I just couldn't find contact info.

I've already gotten info from Ching. Hopefully the other companies will get back to me as well.

[thatguy]

Holy crap there's a lot of discs on there! way to go tim!