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07-08-2010, 06:29 PM
I normally play at around 2000 feet. I'm going to play some courses at 4500 feet and 6500 feet. I know my discs will be more overstable, but HOW much more overstable? If the difference is marginal then I can adjust. But I can only bring a few discs, so if my beat Valk is going to fly like a Predator I need to know ahead of time.
07-08-2010, 06:37 PM
I don't notice a massive difference. At 7000', my valk will still flip if thrown into a headwind.
07-08-2010, 07:12 PM
Everyone makes this out to be a bigger deal then it is, the difference is very slight.
07-08-2010, 07:15 PM
get elevated ... or life elevated or something like that
07-08-2010, 07:25 PM
My normal bag is all 150 class... Wizards, Polecats, Rocs, Leos, Teebirds and Firebirds. I live at 2250'.
When I visit my inlaws that live at sea level I have a tricky time with my 150 clasas stuff. I usually go back to my normal weight stuff (165-175g) and use APXs, Rhynos, Comets, Rocs, Leopards, Teebirds, Firebirds. So my disc selection doesn't change redically but my weights will increase 15-25 grams depending on whether it is a putter, mid or driver.
If I use my 150 class discs at sea level then I usually have to disc up a little. I can get my Teebird nice and straight for 350+ with fade @ 2500' but at sea level I will have to step up to my domey Firebird if I want to keep a flat release. Otherwise I just add a little more hyzer to my Teebird and let 'er rip.
Also, my max D will increase from about 400' at elevation to about 420' at sea level. They will go a little further but not drastically.
I would assume you can expect similar changes between 2500' and 4500' but I can't say for sure... hope this helps.
07-08-2010, 08:01 PM
You are pretty spot on with your own assesment there. Living in Colorado and playing at elevation I can tell you that there is not much change from 5280' to say 8000'. I would be interested in figuring out the exact constants as far as expected change is concerned, but it really isn't worth it. When I have gone down to close to Sea Level in So Cal, that is when I noticed the biggest change. If you are going to elevation and playing a tournament, you are going to want to bring understable stuff, I have seen guys really struggle with this. One even went out and bought a really understable disc in between rounds.
07-09-2010, 01:39 AM
A slight change in hyzer angle, weight or stage of wear is plenty. Or you can throw what you usually do and adjust. I play at 4500'+ 95% of the time. At lower elevations discs seem to fly slower.
The biggest difference you will feel is in your putts. You will need more height or power on your putts, they won't carry nearly as far.
IE I am a strattle putter. At home (around 4900') I jump putt at about 40' and out. At sea level, I don't start to jump putt until about 50', and playing in the mountains around 10,000'(leadville) I need to pace out my jumps, because I feel i want to do them inside of 33'
If I use a lighter putter at the elevation it helps, but I currently do not have a putter lighter than my beat 172' proto wizard I am as comfortable putting with.
Trial and error is going to be neccessary anyway. My first time playing at lower elevation, was at the glass blown open 3 or 4 years ago. My worst tourney to date. The next one in Long Beach was a bit better, but still not playing how I play at home. If I plan to play a tourney (anything but casual) I hope to have a few days to play before the event to adjust.
Where are you going to be playing? Have fun and good luck!
07-09-2010, 02:44 PM
My home courses are all over 6000 feet and when I play closer to sea level I don't change much. It's still pretty easy to turn a Valk over here. After a few practice tosses you'll figure out how your favorite discs work at the new altitude. Excellent point made on the putting. It took me a while to figure that one out because everybody talks about the difference in driving.
07-09-2010, 04:47 PM
I just moved form CO (@ 7500') to KS (@800') and can tell I have to work a bit harder to throw the same distance. Many of you are right, there seems to be a bigger change in how the putters carry, esp from any distance. I would say take all your 'normal' discs (I'm still throwing pretty much all the same in KC as in CO) but just plan on tweaking your throws a bit...just a fun factor added to the game in my mind.
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