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Sunday Mike
07-26-2010, 07:40 PM
What are some of the craziest mandos you've seen?
Paseo Vista (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=3719&mode=ci) in Chandler has these fun culverts to shoot through:
#7 http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_pics/3719/15c9d94d_m.jpg which is 170'.
#18 http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_pics/3719/760a2242_m.jpg It's the culvert in the background. 350' from the red tee and 430' from the white tee.
During a tournament this past Jan. I put a big old spike hyzer through the mando on 18. It just barely made it through (about 5' past), but it still made it!!

Apothecary
07-26-2010, 07:59 PM
crazy mandos sounds like a discount electronics boutique. :\

DavidSauls
07-27-2010, 01:22 PM
In the early days at Stoney Hill we had a shot through the barn:

http://www.saulsinsurance.com/stoneyhill/Photos/Barn%20Shot.jpg

It probably won't return, but you never know.

zenbot
07-27-2010, 01:28 PM
Through the lowest branch.

Hole 4 at Coyote Point.

http://venturadiscgolf.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=761&g2_serialNumber=3

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_pics/83/75aba8d2.jpg

billnchristy
07-27-2010, 01:42 PM
There is a strange one at Crooked Creek...well, until you know the story.

It is a double mando that is denoted by silhouette dog heads on the trees. It is Sayde's tee and the story (thanks to DannyM) is that there was a dog named Sayde who loved to sit on the tee of 17 and watch the guys play and just relax. She died and they made her own teepad and scattered her ashes in it, now there is a tee that is in a seperate area from the 2 normal tees and has the double dog head mando.

I am sure a local can tell the story better than me, I thought it was very touching though.

Sunday Mike
07-27-2010, 03:52 PM
In the early days at Stoney Hill we had a shot through the barn:

http://www.saulsinsurance.com/stoneyhill/Photos/Barn%20Shot.jpg

It probably won't return, but you never know.
That is awesome and incredibly sucky all at the same time!!

Sunday Mike
07-27-2010, 03:53 PM
There is a strange one at Crooked Creek...well, until you know the story.

It is a double mando that is denoted by silhouette dog heads on the trees. It is Sayde's tee and the story (thanks to DannyM) is that there was a dog named Sayde who loved to sit on the tee of 17 and watch the guys play and just relax. She died and they made her own teepad and scattered her ashes in it, now there is a tee that is in a seperate area from the 2 normal tees and has the double dog head mando.

I am sure a local can tell the story better than me, I thought it was very touching though.
Interesting...any pics?

Sunday Mike
07-27-2010, 03:54 PM
Through the lowest branch.

Hole 4 at Coyote Point.
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_pics/83/75aba8d2.jpg
I think that hole would not be kind to me.

zenbot
07-27-2010, 03:58 PM
I think that hole would not be kind to me.
It's a tricky hole. It's rare when a whole card gets through unscathed.

One time I hit the tree and my disc rolled to the left and a couple hundred feet down the hill.

Sunday Mike
07-27-2010, 04:21 PM
It's a tricky hole. It's rare when a whole card gets through unscathed.

One time I hit the tree and my disc rolled to the left and a couple hundred feet down the hill.
So is it a stroke for missing the mando or do you just keep throwing until you've cleared the mando in the proper direction? (that's how the two mandos at Paseo Vista are.)

zenbot
07-27-2010, 04:29 PM
I hit the branch so I never violated the plane of the mandatory. I just had to keep shooting up.

DavidSauls
07-27-2010, 04:36 PM
Interesting...any pics?

No pics---the story's more interesting than the mando. It's just two trees on either side of the fairway. The markers are wood cutout silhouettes of dogheads, facing each other, pointing the way through, so to speak.

Footnote to the story:

Sayde's owners run a fundraiser tournament every year at Crooked Creek---Sayde's Memorial. They provide meals at a lot of other local tournaments, to raise money for it. They've raised a ton of money (thousands, I believe) for F.I.D.O., a dog rescue organization, in Sayde's name.

They've also donated another marker to Stoney Hill, so Sayde also points the way past our one and only mando (now that we don't throw through the barn anymore).

Sunday Mike
07-27-2010, 05:46 PM
That is cool.
So why don't you throw through the barn anymore?

agent_peebody
07-27-2010, 05:50 PM
i can't remember exactly which hole, because there is so many there, but on the red course at lemon lake, i wanna say hole 10?, there's a hard dog leg right about 30 feet in front of the tee and you have to go around the bend. there's a mando tree right on the edge pointing to the left. pretty weak

AdamE
07-27-2010, 06:00 PM
There isn't a picture of it online, but at the Lebanon DGC (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=2614) there's a triple mando through a soccer goal about 150ft away on a short hole. It's pretty cool and challenging. I'll have to get some pics next time I'm down that way.

NothinButChing
07-28-2010, 11:18 AM
wish there were more mandos on local scours around here

Sunday Mike
07-28-2010, 01:11 PM
wish there were more mandos on local scours around here
Make some up if you want to. What's stopping you?

DSCJNKY
07-30-2010, 10:44 AM
Tom Pierce Park in Grants Pass Oregon has a shot where you have to shoot under a hole in a Dam. http://www.dgcoursereview.com/view_image.php?p=course_pics/814/22ebfb43.jpg
(Don't know how to embed the pic if it's not my pic)
DSCJNKY

zenbot
07-30-2010, 10:46 AM
Tom Pierce Park in Grants Pass Oregon has a shot where you have to shoot under a hole in a Dam. http://www.dgcoursereview.com/view_image.php?p=course_pics/814/22ebfb43.jpg
(Don't know how to embed the pic if it's not my pic)
DSCJNKY
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_pics/814/22ebfb43.jpg

Jaysus
07-30-2010, 11:17 AM
That is actually kinda cool

zenbot
07-30-2010, 11:18 AM
Is that an actual mandatory or a necessity to shoot that gap?

DSCJNKY
07-30-2010, 03:36 PM
Yeah. It's a mando. Going over the dam would be much easier.
It's low. The tee-pad is elevated some. I remembering having to squat down as I threw.
DSCJNKY

BucketBonanza
07-30-2010, 05:29 PM
dam that is a sweet mandizzzo

NothinButChing
07-30-2010, 06:26 PM
threw through a drive thru went through and through

tstack10
08-01-2010, 12:20 AM
threw through a drive thru went through and through

This I already knew.

wolito
08-01-2010, 02:25 AM
I have played this course a few times. The mandos on this course is what everone mentions when they talk about it. The first one is pretty short, on a hole that is about 150 feet I believe. Just Buzzz it on through. The second mando is a tunnel that is about 150 feet or so from the teepad with another 200 feet to the hole. It is kind of tricky to hit that gap at 150 feet for sure. Definately the hardest part of that course. I think tricky mandos are a good way to mix things up.

Porkchop
08-06-2010, 04:11 PM
2008 European Open - Brenzpark - Söhnstetten, Germany - Hole #15 "Eight Mando" (http://ec08.de/coursepics/bp.php?holeID=15)

157m = 515 ft

NothinButChing
08-06-2010, 04:46 PM
8 mandos wow

ERicJ
08-06-2010, 05:11 PM
2008 European Open - Brenzpark - Söhnstetten, Germany - Hole #15 "Eight Mando" (http://ec08.de/coursepics/bp.php?holeID=15)

157m = 515 ft
Check out the basket position ("Basket View" link) when you get to the end of that hole. Awesome. :clap:

Looks like that was a sweet temp course.

Sunday Mike
08-06-2010, 06:13 PM
That course looks extremely cool. Makes me wish I was back in Germany.

tallpaul
08-06-2010, 07:19 PM
That hole kind of reminds me of an object course layout; few have played, in Appleton Wisconsin. (Because too many persons refuse to play a nice object layout since they've been spoiled by "real" targets.) I once threw a temp tourney there; and only had about 20 guys show up. 20 baskets; with different pin placements for every round. Two rounds 20 and a final nine of toughest holes. I won't even describe the cool holes involving the Fox River; which a number of discs found their way in to. :)
Steve Trogger designed the object course. For Wisconsin guys; Pierce Park, in Appleton, is still in the same design that he originally conceived for 7 of the nine holes (all but 8 and 9)...though #7 was an immensely better hole under his conception. Hatten Park in New London is also in nearly the identical design he installed as an object course originally. Both of these are still pretty short courses; he was designing for lids and aeros (sp?/slightly before my time even).

Back to the bridge; this part goes quick....Trogger's design had you throw from the top of a hill with a rhbh hyzer finish; under the bridge and through the center supports; which were pretty wide; i.e. 60 to 80 ft. But, your throw would be approaching 300 ft. by the time it entered the under the bridge zone; and, you needed to come out the back side and then finish right to get to object/pin. Once through the supports, but just prior to the pin, was a walking path/park maintenance road that was paved and played as a creek (this road/path was o.b. for the tourney too and came into play on quite a number of holes). So, if your hyzer was early, you went into the first gap and had to play back out and then through the center; a certain bogey; or worse. Same for the back gap; if you tried to put too much on it; in order to come all the way through. If you were up against the wall; your next shot was tough and would really bring the o.b. into play; etc. In other words, a fun hole.

During the tourney, I went with the "forced o.b. is kind of weak" thought process and did not stipulate that you had to go through the center;l thinking that if you went through the first set of supports; or the back ones, still a fairly tough three with the o.b. road/walkway in play... There seemed to be enough o.b. involved in the overall course anyway; including the disc losing Fox River holes; that I didn't need to involve the "gimmick" of the center bridge supports....However, I assumed everyone would still go under the bridge!

Much to my surprise; every single player went over the bridge and the roadway! :) :) Guess you gotta be very specific regarding mandos. :) (There were some that ended up in the roadway on the bridge and had to shoot three from there; over the edge; to the blind bucket. :))

tallpaul
08-06-2010, 07:25 PM
^^^^This object course was where I cut my very original teeth in disc golf; with Plamann Park (1st year; with plastic chains ! :)), going in a couple of years later. @1985 was when Trogger; and a couple of others, began playing it. It's really a shame some of us old dudes don't get a chance to install permanent courses; 'cause some of us have seen some hole designs that were way ahead of their time. :)

mabraddock
08-07-2010, 12:17 PM
2008 European Open - Brenzpark - Söhnstetten, Germany - Hole #15 "Eight Mando" (http://ec08.de/coursepics/bp.php?holeID=15)

157m = 515 ft

and then over the water.... wow

NothinButChing
08-07-2010, 01:58 PM
:'( and then over water... jeez talk about a technical hole

JHern
08-07-2010, 02:55 PM
Craziest mando I ever saw was the gold course at Horning's Hideout in Oregon. There is a wicked long hole (hole 15-ish?) that shoots up a long hilly fairway (about 900' ft long), then you play around a mando to the left and then play back in the direction of the tee but down in a wooded valley (about 300'). They call it a true par 5, and I'd have to agree. If you only have 300' power, you'd have to make 4 perfect throws just to have a chance at the par putt (luckily I can throw further, but still can't afford any mistakes). I've never thrown a more difficult hole, ever.

tstack10
08-08-2010, 11:21 AM
and then over the water.... wow

That hole is awesome. Eight mandos!!!! It probabaly would eat me up but I love the challenge

Gamecock
08-13-2010, 11:02 PM
Check out the basket position ("Basket View" link) when you get to the end of that hole. Awesome. :clap:

Looks like that was a sweet temp course.

All I can say is WOW. And, with water to cross at the end, that's one HELL of a challenging hole!

Gamecock
08-13-2010, 11:22 PM
This is called a Double Mando, but in reality, it's really more of a Quad Mando. :)

http://odgc-sc.tripod.com/images/h6tee.jpg

Above is view from tee (it keeps drives out of fenced-in area shown to the left).

Below is view looking back to tee from Edisto Memorial Gardens DGC on Hole #6.

http://odgc-sc.tripod.com/images/h6frombehindmando.JPG

This has the be the craziest mando I've played in person. Pretty tight squeeze!

Gamecock
08-13-2010, 11:56 PM
Like caption says on Orangeburg SC Disc Golf Club website, "Nothing like a little casual water!"

http://odgc-sc.tripod.com/images/odgc-03-01water026.jpg

I'm not 100% sure the above photo is of the basket for hole #6, but I would bet on it. I do recognize that same fenced-in area to the left, which is what the double/quad mando tee tries to keep you away from. So, combine those tee pix above with this basket shot to imagine hole #6 on it's most challenging day. :thmbup:

http://odgc-sc.tripod.com/images/odgc-03-01water022.jpg

Above is another view of this same course when a BOAT was needed in order to play a dry round! Actually, I suppose one could have also used WADERS, but (like the boat) this would limit your ability to get a good run up. :D

There's usually not THIS much "casual water" now (even after a VERY heavy rain). ;)

Hippy007
08-14-2010, 12:59 AM
Craziest mando I ever saw was the gold course at Horning's Hideout in Oregon. There is a wicked long hole (hole 15-ish?) that shoots up a long hilly fairway (about 900' ft long), then you play around a mando to the left and then play back in the direction of the tee but down in a wooded valley (about 300'). They call it a true par 5, and I'd have to agree. If you only have 300' power, you'd have to make 4 perfect throws just to have a chance at the par putt (luckily I can throw further, but still can't afford any mistakes). I've never thrown a more difficult hole, ever.

It is a crazy mando but it was put there for a reason. the side hill off the field there is to week to allow people to play down. So we had to extend the line around to get the basket down by the creak where we wanted it. The hole is 16. It is fun bombing shots down in there around the mando from way out hoping you don't skip to far through and have to play from the creek.

Hippy007

Sunday Mike
08-14-2010, 11:18 AM
http://odgc-sc.tripod.com/images/odgc-03-01water026.jpg



This is all I see. :(

Gamecock
08-14-2010, 01:50 PM
This is all I see. :(

Thanks for the heads up Mike!

Sorry for the inconvenience. I will just repeat those messages with 4 pix fixed.

I really think you guys might find these mando/water photos to be interesting....

Gamecock
08-14-2010, 01:56 PM
This is called a Double Mando, but in reality, it's really more of a Quad Mando. :)

http://www.parkcirclediscgolf.com/edisto6tee.jpg

Above is view from tee (it keeps drives out of fenced-in area shown to the left).

Below is view looking back to tee from Edisto Memorial Gardens DGC on Hole #6.

http://www.parkcirclediscgolf.com/edisto6tee2.jpg

This has to be the craziest mando I've played in person. Pretty tight squeeze!

Gamecock
08-14-2010, 02:04 PM
Like caption says on Orangeburg SC Disc Golf Club website, "Nothing like a little casual water!"

http://www.parkcirclediscgolf.com/casual-water.jpg

I'm not 100% sure the above photo is of the basket for hole #6, but I would bet on it. I do recognize that same fenced-in area to the left, which is what the double/quad mando tee tries to keep you away from. So, combine those tee pix above with this basket shot to imagine hole #6 on it's most challenging day. LOL

http://www.parkcirclediscgolf.com/water-shot.jpg

Above is another view of this same course when a BOAT was needed in order to play a dry round! Actually, I suppose one could have also used WADERS, but (like the boat) this would limit your ability to get a good run up. :D

There's usually not THIS much "casual water" now (even after a VERY heavy rain). ;)

agent_peebody
08-14-2010, 02:46 PM
quite possibly the coolest photos of DG ever..

Sunday Mike
08-14-2010, 03:24 PM
^^That's like disc golf "Deliverance" style...
wait.....
do I hear banjos?
Squeal like a ...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41IJVzfCTOL.jpg

Gamecock
08-14-2010, 04:10 PM
^^That's like disc golf "Deliverance" style...
wait.....
do I hear banjos?

No. You must be thinking of Upstate SC - where some of that movie was filmed. Hillbillies prefer mountains. LOL

This looks like a Lowcountry SC course with the Spanish Moss in trees. More like downtown Charleston,. which has been a sophisticated and progressive city since about 1670. Think Rhett Butler, not some inbred hillbillies from Tennessee.

medicinalfunk
08-14-2010, 04:36 PM
http://www.parkcirclediscgolf.com/edisto6tee2.jpg


bonk

Sunday Mike
08-14-2010, 05:51 PM
bonk
Seriously.
That hole is twisted!

Sunday Mike
08-14-2010, 05:52 PM
No. You must be thinking of Upstate SC - where some of that movie was filmed. Hillbillies prefer mountains. LOL

This looks like a Lowcountry SC course with the Spanish Moss in trees. More like downtown Charleston,. which has been a sophisticated and progressive city since about 1670. Think Rhett Butler, not some inbred hillbillies from Tennessee.
Wasn't necesarrily refering to the area, just the boat and water aspect.
Still pretty damn funny to see, though!

Raptor
08-14-2010, 09:35 PM
Seriously.
That hole is twisted!

Not if you throw overhand.
But where's fun in that.

TxDiscGolfBoy
08-14-2010, 09:44 PM
#16 Turner Park in Grand Prairie, TX.

Not the craziest, but it's a double mando.

Front Right corner of the box pretty much points at the pin, which mind you, is 575 ft. away and down hill, if I'm not mistaken. Long hole with double mando and high treeline to carry over after the turn... that's why it's here.

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_pics/3596/8797feea.jpg?rand=7285

medicinalfunk
08-14-2010, 11:34 PM
Not if you throw overhand.
But where's fun in that.

i think i'd try to thread the avenger ss with a teeny anhyzer through there, or the comet straight and fast if its close

agent_peebody
08-14-2010, 11:52 PM
if it's the goatse comet, i think the tree's will recognize the effort involved in posing like that, and they, much like the butt cheeks, will spread apart and let you through

Gamecock
08-15-2010, 11:02 AM
Seriously.
That hole is twisted!

If you're throwing for a long drive here, the odds of hitting a tree goes way up.

I suspect when playing in a foursome, at least one of the 4 are going to hit a tree in front. But, this does prevent people from having to climb over a fence, so the hole design does meet its objective.

You don't HAVE to throw the disc vertical as demonstrated in that first photo. But doing so probably does increase your chances of making it through those first four trees unscathed.

heelboycraig
08-15-2010, 02:00 PM
Seriously.
That hole is twisted!

It's actually is/was a relatively easy hole. You should be able to clear a 5-foot wide gap 10 feet in front of the tee pad.

Boyd Hill in Rock Hill, SC has one hole with a double mando between 2 sets of trees. The first mando is maybe a 2-3 foot wide gap right in front of the tee, not too much of a problem; BUT, the 2nd is a 5 foot wide gap a good 50 feet from the basket. Unfortunately there are no pics on the site of the hole. It leans towards the side of very poor hole design.

agent_peebody
08-16-2010, 03:24 PM
it's not a marked "mando" but you have to go under the branch if you want an ace run

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab286/Agent_Peebody/Discs/IMG00342-20100816-1107.jpg

Gamecock
08-16-2010, 04:36 PM
it's not a marked "mando" but you have to go under the branch if you want an ace run

Nice!

agent_peebody
08-16-2010, 05:07 PM
yeah...i grip locked a leopard on that hole today :wall:

there's actually another tee for that hole to the right of where i took that pic from, you can kinda see it's fairway in the picture on the right side. it's a nice FH or anny line from that tee. at the one in the pic you can just throw flat and play the fade

Sunday Mike
08-16-2010, 09:23 PM
yeah...i grip locked a leopard on that hole today :wall:

there's actually another tee for that hole to the right of where i took that pic from, you can kinda see it's fairway in the picture on the right side. it's a nice FH or anny line from that tee. at the one in the pic you can just throw flat and play the fade
What course is that?

Cgkdisc
08-16-2010, 10:21 PM
Valparaiso, IN

Sunday Mike
08-16-2010, 10:50 PM
Valparaiso, IN
Cool, thanks!!

beeftrout
08-26-2010, 02:54 AM
Got a private course here in Southwest Michigan that has a geodescent playground dome over one of the baskets. The back side is cut out just big enough to retrieve discs from the basket. Not a mando...but you've gotta putt through it to get to the basket. Planning on playing the course again soon, maybe I can get some pictures of it.

Gamecock
08-26-2010, 10:06 PM
Got a private course here in Southwest Michigan that has a geodescent playground dome over one of the baskets. The back side is cut out just big enough to retrieve discs from the basket. Not a mando...but you've gotta putt through it to get to the basket. Planning on playing the course again soon, maybe I can get some pictures of it.

Yes, please post at least ONE pic of that hole! I'm not following too well... I would think the front side would be cut out, not the back. Do you go past it and then go through OR take your chances from the front side? Thanks in advance!

beeftrout
08-26-2010, 10:28 PM
The front is not cut out to force players to putt through the spaces in the dome. The rear is cut out just big enough for a person to duck through and grab the discs out of the basket/pick up the drop-ins. Playing the hole could come into play if you wanted, but its kinda fun to just shoot your upshot (about a 350' hole, but plays hard to reach off your drive) right at the thing and hope it goes through or gets knocked down close by it. Quite fun actually, I admire the course designers innovation. He also has a hanging basket. It is a short technical course, most holes are 180-250, but its very tight, but with good lines that aren't impossible to hit with an accurate shot. Plays back and forth over a small creek, making good use of OB. Anywho, I've gotten off topic now, my bad. Plan on playing a week from now, I'll get some pictures of it.

LoPan12
08-30-2010, 10:19 PM
bonk

I bet you I'd hit all four of those tree...BONK THUNK WHUMP THUD....

gordonbombay
08-30-2010, 10:48 PM
it's not a marked "mando" but you have to go under the branch if you want an ace run

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab286/Agent_Peebody/Discs/IMG00342-20100816-1107.jpg

You should update the course photos ;) I dont think there is one for this hole.

I have seen OH shots come dangerously close to acing this hole too though.

Gamecock
11-22-2010, 12:14 AM
I just recognized that an Ace on the throw under the tree branch hole was featured in this cool YouTube video... The Ultimate Disc Golf Ace Mix!

That's right, Watch 21 different Disc Golf Aces in about 3 Minutes! One guy actually gets 2 Aces in a Row - AMAZING!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXGUOEmv7Gw

Man, watching that video will really make you want to go out and play for sure.