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Kent18
09-06-2010, 10:23 AM
I am planning a disc golf camping trip this week and I noticed both days there will be wind of 15 mph and 20 mph with gusts probably more. I know any disc golfer needs to learn how to play the wind but I am just wondering at what point is it just annoying to play in the wind and at what point does it drastically impact the beauty of the game? Should we reschedule?

Dfwdscglfr
09-06-2010, 10:29 AM
nothing wrong with it i think it makes it more fun you can flip x-cal's and feel like you got some muscles

BogeyNoMore
09-06-2010, 10:32 AM
Depends on the course - densely wooded not such a big deal. Shorter and open can be worse, and long and open, worse yet.

Seems anything from about 15 mph and over really starts adding strokes to a round scores to climb. Makes long putts a nightmare. I don't know about specfic speeds, but I find cross winds to be a bigger PIA than head and tail winds.

mabraddock
09-06-2010, 10:49 AM
you'll notice any thing sustained over 10MPH... think of riding your bike... cross wind sucks the worse but watch it putting into the wind, disc will magically pop up and over the basket...
don't not play though, get out your heavy stuff and have fun using the wind to your advantage...

scarpfish
09-06-2010, 11:08 AM
At our home tournament last week, we had the most befuddling wind ever. Sustained 20 MPH all day, with 35 MPH gusts which would hit at precisely the wrong moment, and the occasional lull which would hit at precisely the wrong moment. Everybody, including the Open players, struggled with it.

That being said, if I rescheduled my rounds every time annoying wind was a factor, I'd lose two thirds of my playing time. Today will be no exception.

So I say read this helpful article on dealing with various types of wind (http://www.discraft.com/res_wind06_p1.html) (oddly enough the guy who wrote it won the aforementioned tournament), pack some overstable plastic (although those won't be the right choice in every situation) and go do your trip. Once you learn to deal with the wind, and try to manipulate it to your advantage, it becomes less annoying.

optidiscic
09-06-2010, 11:11 AM
heavier plasticsprovide more control in the wind
nothing better than wind to help learn your discs
wind putting is really not so fun..if its windy I usually cut my putting range in half and rely more on approach type shots

eegor
09-06-2010, 11:43 AM
At our home tournament last week, we had the most befuddling wind ever. Sustained 20 MPH all day, with 35 MPH gusts which would hit at precisely the wrong moment, and the occasional lull which would hit at precisely the wrong moment. Everybody, including the Open players, struggled with it.

That being said, if I rescheduled my rounds every time annoying wind was a factor, I'd lose two thirds of my playing time. Today will be no exception.

So I say read this helpful article on dealing with various types of wind (http://www.discraft.com/res_wind06_p1.html) (oddly enough the guy who wrote it won the aforementioned tournament), pack some overstable plastic (although those won't be the right choice in every situation) and go do your trip. Once you learn to deal with the wind, and try to manipulate it to your advantage, it becomes less annoying.

I play in west Texas every week. They have thousands of those huge windmills out there for good reason. It really helps me to compete when the wind kicks up in DFW. It's all about adjustment to take advantage of the wind. Don't look at is as an obstacle. Think of ways the wind could help you.

TIP: Try to lay up on the upwind side of the basket. The tailwind will force your putts down... if you miss, you won't "float" away.

thatdirtykid
09-06-2010, 02:10 PM
0mph. No wind is the worst. The wind (even if its very light) tells me which line to take. When there is 0 wind, its hard to decide whether the spike hyzer, straight fade, forehand, overhand or whatever is the better line.

solomon.trenton
09-06-2010, 10:00 PM
10mph+

Midnightbiker
09-06-2010, 10:12 PM
Anything over 15, and it gets a little tricky. You really gotta choose the right disc for tailwind or headwind, and putting can be a pain in high winds

SmoothSailor
09-06-2010, 10:18 PM
my home course ALWAYS has heavy winds on at least hole 2, 4 and 8. Doesn't matter if there isn't any wind to be had, these holes have it. So I've since learned to play in the wind :)

agent_peebody
09-06-2010, 10:19 PM
anything over 25 mph it gets really tricky to play

fairweather_fan
09-06-2010, 10:53 PM
At what mph does wind really become annoying?

i don't know the answer for you, but i do know that it is inversely proportional to the amount of OAT in your throw. ie- if you throw clean, you can put the same disc through a much heavier wind than you could if you did not.

scarpfish
09-06-2010, 11:51 PM
How bad was the wind today?

I threw a Buzzz almost 400'. Too bad the basket was only 200' out.

I had a headwind approach and decided to throw a FLX Drone on a hyzer line. It flipped.

andrewkh
09-07-2010, 12:41 AM
it will make the round more interesting so definatly don't cancela dn the 15-20 mph winds aren't too bad as long as there arent any sever gusts.

TxDiscGolfBoy
09-07-2010, 01:01 AM
It's TX. Biggest of the winds. Played in 20 mph winds today.

I think it makes it more fun. It's a part of the game you really don't get to see that often. Big winds that is. I guess that's 35+ mph here. You get to throw different discs. Flip X-Cals.

It's so cool watching a disc just get tossed around in the air. 20ft drops followed by 20 ft. rises. All in the same flight. Pretty neat.

RussMB
09-07-2010, 01:07 AM
it will make the round more interesting so definatly don't cancela dn the 15-20 mph winds aren't too bad as long as there arent any sever gusts.

This is so true! My first DG Event we had Horrible coastal winds. 50mph. I would say the best player among us was the guy from Innova. He got the best score of +1 the first round, and Even the second. He couldn't compete for obvious reasons, but he stilled played with us. Very cool guy! So it put all of us on an even level.

hangwind
09-07-2010, 01:44 AM
Scarpfish, thank you for the link.

The below is my own experience in gliding, it does pertain to my game and here are some of my thoughts on wind.

One thing about the wind, there are many factors that pertain to a given wind speed that make it act "heavy or light" The higher the temperature and lower humidity, the less dense the wind is and it will have a lighter effect on your disc path. Cooler more humid days, the wind is heavier and has more effect on the flight path. The higher the altitude of the playing field, the less dense the wind is and at sea level on a cool humid day, a 5 mph wind may have the same effect as a 10 mile per hour day at a warm dry climate at 5,000' elevation.

Some wind will have variance in flow, especially on warm days where thermal wind is abundant. Expect sudden lift and drops. Cool days, expect smoother trajectories unless the wind is from a low pressure system. High pressure systems the air is stable, low pressure systems, the air is instable.

The knowledge above will not hurt your playing, it will only help you to understand what sort of effect the wind will have on your disc flight.

The Discraft link goes farther into the effects of wind on disc ratings which I find interesting and about half applicable to my own experience.

We have a course that is windy. In the summer, convective winds, in the winter, laminar. Very interesting reading the wind as it is long and open. I've seen strong players wind up throwing the disc backwards and weak arms with good technique out driving.

Upwind throw low, downwind throw higher trajectories.

One of the things our little group does, once we figure out the disc, once it is thrown, we comment like, "throw harder" if the disc drops unexpectedly or "right" if it wasn't given enough English.

For the most part, we rotate if the wind is a factor, it helps us all to know how the throw went for the person and what it actually did.

Heavy disc into, lighter down wind. If the wind is directly cross, put your disc into the wind more, the higher the wind.

jongoff09
09-07-2010, 01:48 AM
Where I am at, it isn't really windy at all during the summer, but fall-spring days are almost always windy. So wind for me isn't really frustrating except for the first few days it starts to blow and I am not thinking about how it affects the discs. Just so happens that last week was the first wind I have experienced since spring.

billnchristy
09-07-2010, 07:47 AM
The wind I find annoying is the wind that is seemingly just above your head that you don't feel at ground level.

This kind of wind was playing hell with us yesterday until we just said forget it, can't throw the big understable distance discs.

WillACarpenter
09-07-2010, 09:09 AM
Wind is annoying when it is constantly switching directions on you. You run up and start to throw with a tailwind, the disc leaves your hand, flips flat starts to rise...and the wind starts coming straight at you and turns it into a roller FFFFUUUUUU.

The opposite is just as bad, you throw a predator into the headwind with a ton of snap, the disc is starting to turn over you're secretly about to pee with excitement because this disc could go a country mile....then the wind stops or becomes a right to left wind and your predator immediately banks left into a bush.

\/\/

CaptainAnhyzer
09-07-2010, 09:26 AM
Remants of Earl gave us some tricky winds on Saturday at Hyzer Creek......... Hole 12 is this 700 ft downhill shot with the pin in a pocket across the creek.
Round 1 my drives does this crazy air-bounce-hyzer-flip and lands 25 past the 400 rock square in the middle of the fairway. Great upshot and i sink the birdie putt.
Round 2, same disc flips to the right and screams into the pine tree schule. Takes two shots to get back on the fairway. I take a 6. :doh:

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_pics/16/a353f3a9.jpg?rand=9047

deBebbler
09-07-2010, 11:35 AM
Played in Michigan's Upper Peninsula in August. Weather.com said 40 mph gusting to 50+ mph, and they weren't lying. My wraith (too much disc for me, frankly) was thrown about like a rag doll. I wish I hadn't lost my new DX FireChicken earlier in the week, cuz I wanted to see how many G's it could take.

But I can't say it was annoying. It was a blast, and a real good feeling when you read the wind right. I was finally able to explain to my bro, through example, high speed disc-headwind vs low speed disc-tailwind effect.

Although I wouldn't have thought it possible, the round gave me even more respect for my Champ Gazelle, too. It was the only driver I threw that didn't get blown away like a paper plate.

billnchristy
09-07-2010, 11:50 AM
Gazelles do have an amazing ability to laugh in the face of wind.

DavidSauls
09-07-2010, 12:05 PM
I'm only annoyed by winds when they're whipping up waves on the long water carry I'm facing. Suddenly my discs stare up out of my bag and plead to be chosen last.

simpletwist
09-07-2010, 01:13 PM
On a perfectly still day an ocassional little breeze can cause problems. Well for me anyway. :wall: But I agree with a lot of folks, 15+ gets annoying. But no reason to stop. I played this past weekend along Lake Ontario gusts to 35+ and we had a good time if not a great round. But you base your expectations on the conditions. We knew it was gonna be tough in some directions and a benefit in others. Amazing how a Comet can just keep going with a steady tailwind. :cool: I had a beautiful 75 footer going when a little skip off the air dead center but now 6 inches above the basket for a 50 footer coming back into it. :mad:

I'm getting better at it however so it isn't as annoying. But I still think the wind blows.

ninepoundhammer
09-07-2010, 04:38 PM
I found steady 15-25mph with gusts of 45mph to be pretty annoying today.