Brainerd, MN New Course in the Works

[hedfan1]

So I've been hearing about a new course. There is suppose to be 5 acres supposedly to work with for an 18 hole course.

If anyone knows any info on this proposed course please post up. It's creating excitement among the Brainerd players and it would be nice to spread the excitement!

[Cgkdisc]

5 acres is only enough for a pretty short 9 hole course.

[Danger]

Paul Bunyan? Babe the Blue Ox?

[Steve West]

http://www.brainerdparks.com/Parks/Trailside/TrailsideParkMasterPlan24x36.pdf

http://www.co.crow-wing.mn.us/land/docs/10_10_07__Final.pdf

Looks like 15 acres, not 5. Located at 46.380918, -94.225453.

If they don't have a designer yet, there are two on this thread.

[discordye]

Very sick, thank you for those documents, hedfan1 and I are very excited for this.

[Steve West]

It probably wouldn't hurt for you to talk to the guy that gave the report and see what's happening. I look forward to an update.

[Disc Golf Live]

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/mn/MNBRAbunyan_porter.jpg

Vacationed in the area many times when I was a youth, hope to get back one day and see the sights again. Glad to know there's at least one course in the area.

[hedfan1]

Thanks for some of that info guys. I too have designed a few courses in my day and I would help design and create on this project. Good or Bad weather tomorrow, I think I'm going to scope out that plot tomorrow. See it's possibilities. Seth.W I'll see you around 10:10 tomorrow morning!

[Cgkdisc]

Perhaps we would know some of the courses you've done?

[Sadjo]

I think its awesome. My Dad's family is from Aitkin and it would be great to have a decent course not far from where we visit each summer.

[hedfan1]

Perhaps we would know some of the courses you've done?

Mine are all hear say but I have created 3 courses and I am working on a 4th. They were all made with my portable basket. I created a, TOUR Washington DC DG course. It consists of 18 holes all placed through out Washington D.C. and Arlington VA. It takes you through the National Mall, over the Reflecting pool, by Jeffereson, the Whitehouse,the Capital, Arlington Cemetary and more. It takes about 6 hours or so to play and maybe $10 for parking and gas to go from hole to hole.

I have a 9 hole course I designed in a park in Arlington, VA.

I made an 18 hole course at the local Forest Middle School in Baxter, MN

I have maybe 4 or 5 holes laid out in the Crow Wing County but thats a Crow Wing County Dream Course.

[Danger]

:doh:

[hedfan1]

:doh:

What's the DOH! for..? Everyones gotta start somewhere.

[Cgkdisc]

Jack Nicklaus started by learning from and working with experienced designers.

[hedfan1]

Jack Nicklaus started by learning from and working with experienced designers.

I have done my research and I have sent e-mails, made phone calls and sent resumes to at least 7 different credible course designers to see if they would bring me on board as any part of their staff. I get no response... From any of them. I told them all in my cover letters that I am willing to move anywhere in the America possibly over seas.

[Cgkdisc]

Veteran designer, Tim Mackey from St. Cloud has talked with the Brainerd Park Director and they've discussed the project. If Mackey was not a designer you contacted, let him know your interest at: mackeytim at yahoo.com

[hedfan1]

Thank you for that! I would love to be there through the whole process. First walk through to first Tee shot.

[hedfan1]

Today I went and spent about an hour walking through the designated area set for the DGC. There is a little elevation but lots of trees and a ton of fallen/broken/dead trees scattered through out. I saw one decent sized creek that looked to be about 10 to 12 feet deep and about the same wide. I see potential for an amazing technical course. From the type of land, I don't see any hole here reaching over 350' but I guess it's possible. This land will need work and lots of it to clear it out.

The creek could create some really intesting and challenging Tee shots and/or UpShots but the use of the creek will probably be limited to maybe 2 or 3 holes at most. If they allow the baskets to be placed in close proximity to the creek at all.

As I look over the designated land map I hope we can create 18 holes here that are well layed out so there won't be much need for the phrase "FOUR!" on this course.

I saw two Deer and an Owl as I walked!

[discordye]

Today I went and spent about an hour walking through the designated area set for the DGC. There is a little elevation but lots of trees and a ton of fallen/broken/dead trees scattered through out. I saw one decent sized creek that looked to be about 10 to 12 feet deep and about the same wide. I see potential for an amazing technical course. From the type of land, I don't see any hole here reaching over 350' but I guess it's possible. This land will need work and lots of it to clear it out.

The creek could create some really intesting and challenging Tee shots and/or UpShots but the use of the creek will probably be limited to maybe 2 or 3 holes at most. If they allow the baskets to be placed in close proximity to the creek at all.

As I look over the designated land map I hope we can create 18 holes here that are well layed out so there won't be much need for the phrase "FOUR!" on this course.

I saw two Deer and an Owl as I walked!
Well, why wasn't I invited to this little outing? Sounds like it would of been cool, thanks a lot man.

[hedfan1]

Any time man. Call me and say, "Hey hedfan1, we should go walk that land where the new DGC is plotted out." Then I will respond, "Sure."

It's that easy...

[Johnson]

Knowing the Brainerd Parks and Rec. this park may never be built! We can't even get decent baskets at the course we already have.

[hedfan1]

Knowing the Brainerd Parks and Rec. this park may never be built! We can't even get decent baskets at the course we already have.

Watch it there Johnson. It's just like you to let the "powers that be" run your life and tell you whether or not you get new baskets. Join this league I'm starting and who knows, we might help get a few new baskets in @ Lum and motivate those "powers that be" into action on this new course.

If anyone in the Crow Wing County area is reading this and is interested in joining our Bag Tag league give me a shout. I'll keep you posted as the progress as it is made.

[Johnson]

The powers that be are douches, you see. No matter how cool you think Bonnie may be, nothing will get done, just wait, you'll see! To truly have fun, just follow me, I'll lead you to the promised land, and set your ass free.

[hedfan1]

"WE ARE THE ONES WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR"

With me as your leader, Change WILL come!

CHANTING MAKES IT IMPORTANT:
YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YEAS WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YEAS WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YEAS WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YEAS WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!

[discordye]

the course may be built, or turned to silt. I think it has a good chance and now I will say my stance. one day it will be made but a foundation must be laid. If we get our foot in the door, you'll find what we have in store.

[Johnson]

Face it, its not gonna happen, and if it does its prolly gonna suck...

[Johnson]

Just looking at the little map online with Greg earlier, it appears if they do indeed plan on doing a full 18 it's gonna be cramped, imagine Lum, but 18 holes...

[hedfan1]

Lum Park but 18 holes... Lum Park will be nothing like this 18 hole course. This will be longer, tighter and more technical of a course than Lum could ever imagine being. I can see tight gap shots, long tunnel shots, technical dog legs and water all coming into play. I don't think there will be a single hole like #3, #4, #5, #8 or #9 at Trailside Park. Holes like #1, #2, #6 and #7 but with more threes, tighter fairways and more punishment for going off course. You wait, you wait and see Jouhnson, you'll see...

[Johnson]

The course in Crosslake has potential to be truly great, the 9 they have are short, fun and technical. They have plenty of room to expand the course, I've walked back in those woods and there are trails everywhere, lots of potential, prettier scenery than Chum park too.

[Johnson]

Bonnie will just continue sitting in her tower like Obama promising hope and change, but wait, nothing good will happen.

[hedfan1]

Johnson, I dis-like you.

[Johnson]

The feeling is mutual my friend.

[hedfan1]

Johnson's fee: $35.00 ;)

[Johnson]

I'll start my own and charge $20, everyone would also get a complimentary yellow Ching Juju.

[hedfan1]

I see how it is. I cannot respond to this BS right now.

[Johnson]

I'm thoroughly enjoying this thread.

[hedfan1]

If only these Central Lakes people could get with the program.

[Johnson]

Don't worry man, the city of Baxter is looking out for you and your disc golf dreams.

[Johnson]

Bonnie is a legend.

[Johnson]

I bet Bonnie has aced 5 and shot the ever elusive -9 at Lum.

[hedfan1]

I bet Bonnie has aced 5 and shot the ever elusive -8 at Lum.

Always stretching the truth. Next you'll be telling me you average 360' with you Eagle in the snow.

[Johnson]

Lol, well I guess -8 is pretty darn elusive too. C'mon Hed, you saw me park 9, that's easily 360' you fool.

[hedfan1]

Brainerd, MN’s Fly-By Disc Golf League

Goals:
- Improve the quality of the Lum Park disc golf course by raising funds to purchase new baskets and other amenities such as bridges and cement tee pads.
- Create a friendly and inviting environment by offering local disc golf players an opportunity to create a sense of community and camaraderie through friendly competition.
- Give the Brainerd Parks & Recreation a tangible example of the local, proactive disc golf community. This will hopefully inspire them to push forward with the creation of the Trailside 18 hole disc golf course. Trailside Park is located on the corner of Beaver Dam Rd. N. & County Rd. 49 N. in Brainerd, MN.

The league will begin in May and will be centered on the Bag Tag system. The Fly-By League will be hosting five tournaments and taking part in the Annual Lum Park Tournament in September. All tournaments except in September will be 18 holes of long and short tees at Lum Park. The first tournament will be where you receive your bag tag and league rules.

Tournament Dates:
Tuesday, May 3rd @ 5:30 - Tuesday, June 7th @ 5:30 - Tuesday, July 5th @ 5:30
Tuesday, August 2nd @ 5:30 - Saturday, September 3rd @ 9:30 a.m.

The October tournament will be played only by the top sixteen Bag Tag holders over a two separate week period in a single elimination, sweet sixteen style bracket.

Saturday, October 1st @ 11:00 a.m. (Rounds 1 & 2)
Saturday, October 29th @ 11:00 a.m. (Rounds 3 & 4)

All Tuesdays with out a tournament will have other disc golf events, location will vary.
Events: (Random Doubles, Ace Race, Travel to Highly Rated Courses, etc.)

In between events, at any time, players in the league can play challenge matches where two or more players play for tags. These challenges can take place at any course under any circumstances that all players agree upon prior to the start of the match.

To join the Fly-By Disc Golf League it will cost $30.00 to join, which pays for your Bag Tag and the ability to participate in any of the tournaments except the September tournament which is $10.00 to play or $15.00 to play plus get a T-Shirt.
ALL PROCEEDS & DONATIONS GO TO THE LUM PARK BASKET FUND

Questions – Comments? Email me!

[Johnson]

Don't mean to discourage your work Greg, but maybe you should promote this league closer to spring. I mean, don't stop your work, but it's February, we have plenty of time.

You always over plan everything, disregard everything I just said. Cheers. Go draw some bridge designs.

[hedfan1]

It starts in May. Why do I need to wait for April to come up with ideas, make tentative plans and think about things. What's fun about making plans? There plans, they are ideas. I could spend most of my time posting on DGCR about pointless things like Bruce Lee's ability to match up in present day MMA or I could use my imagination to better our local course, our daily playing experiance, our local economy. Maybe generate more intrest in our sport or come up with ideas to grow our chances to play. You complain about me sending you bridge plans but I don't hear you complaining about me spending 3 hours on the course shoveling our tee pads and walking paths to make it more fun and less of a Pain in the @$$ to play.

[Johnson]

Easy tiger, just givin ya crap.

[hedfan1]

BTW, I posted the promo deal so I could get feed back on it, not for promotion. There are 4 people on this site near brainerd and all of them are in already in... I might design a bridge tonight, just for you Johnson.

[Johnson]

Ran into Bonnie at work today. "That buddy of yours is taking this frisbee thing a little far, don't you think" I chuckled and continued stocking freight.

[hedfan1]

You give a pi$$y reply like that, expect a pi$$y response. You can still be constructive on my Fly-By promo if your feeling Constructive.

[Johnson]

When we run into the 40+ people I've played with this coming spring and I get them all to sign up you'll see how constructive I can be. The bear necessities in life will come to you, they'll come to me?! Ya they'll come to you. Wait and see, I know 90% of the Lum patrons.

[hedfan1]

So your saying that reguardless of my efforts, the success of this Fly-By league is soley dependant on you. I guess you are kind of a big deal. You can take over the operation then. Here, take the reins.

[Johnson]

Screw that, I'm too unorganized. I'm just saying don't stress, together we will be able to get plenty of people. I'm here to help you, not take credit for everything... chill homie

[Johnson]

Heeya! Heeya!!! Screw bridges, screw new baskets, screw lum park I'm moving to South Dakota! Take back the reigns, I have failed...

[hedfan1]

Who said I'm stressing. I'm having a blast working on this. Then help, rather than give crap. I'm not worried about turn out. I am confident we will get two new baskets per the league, I'm trying to find ways beyond the participants to get funding for more than thar. I am trying to get 3-5 baskets, maybe bridges, maybe... etc. Why shoot for the moon when the stars are with in reach if we just take more effort to plan for it...?

[Johnson]

My plan: force every man, woman, and child in Brainerd to join our league. Monetary problem solved baby.

[Johnson]

Ok, an idea I've had for this league... a non random doubles tourney, just one, that is all.

[Johnson]

Well, after much mindless bickering, myself and Hed decided enough was enough and we actually got together and discussed leagues. It was very productive and the flyby league in Brainerd is gonna be sick, if you're in the area hit us up.

[tallpaul]

Smoochie smoochie.

[Johnson]

The Pack is going down.

[hedfan1]

So it sounds like they will be harvesting old growth trees to help with funding for the Trailside DGC. This will be happening this summer. The course looks like it will still be at the earliest, 2012 before completion.

I present the league to the park and rec board on February 28th. It sounds like we will have their blessing and a bit of their backing but they will not be acquisitioning any funds so it's all on us. They will help promote it in some of the park and rec bulletins.

I have a great idea for getting free exposure but it will take some efforts on the league members as well as a possible local business sponsor.

I have a meeting with someone who was successful at getting multiple sand volleyball courts and leagues set up in Brainerd a few years back to share and spread ideas for raising funds.

[Johnson]

2012... so the world might literally end before this thing gets built. They better git a move on...

[Johnson]

Keep on with the force, stop, don't stop till you get enough.

(repeat)

[hedfan1]

huh?

[Johnson]

Michael Jackson song.

[hedfan1]

I get that but huh? What are you getting at? I am slow.

[Johnson]

Keep pushing for this course, don't stop till it becomes a reality.

[hedfan1]

This is a community effort, not a job for Hans Solo. ;)

[gripNrip91]

I live in MN near the monticello area, but my friend has a cabin in Motley and we were thinking at playing at Lum in brainerd when we went for his cabin. is it woth the hour drive? and we might go to some tourneys that you are setting up hedfan

[Johnson]

Always wanted to play with a fellow DGCR member. It's worth the drive just to meet the crew! Four DGCR members just in Brainerd, we'd love to have you come play in our league, might have to double check with Hed but I think the monthly tourney's are members only. However we do weekly events on tuesdays, random doubles, ace races, one pick a partner tourney, one tripled tourney and a whole lot me, stop by this thread and we'll keep you posted. There are some really good courses in Cloud if your up for the drive. To be honest Lum park isn't all that great, poor basket conditions, crappy bridges, short holes. The mission of leagues is mainly to raise funds for baskets and bridges and make Lum more respectable, cheers.

[gripNrip91]

idk if we would be able to play a leauge, but it would be fun to meet up with a fellow DGCR! we are just looking for courses near motley when we are up there, and i have been to St. cloud its about an hour drive from my front door to the teepad, didnt like riverside though, (maybe its because i played there when i wasnt very good haha), but i plan to play those in the future, and plus we dont mind if Lum isnt the best course ever, we just like to go out and play wherever we can:thmbup:

[gripNrip91]

sorry its an hour drive from motley, not monticello haha

[Johnson]

Right on, surprised you didn't like Riverside, it's actually somewhat newb friendly with all the wide open holes. Millstream in Waite Park is pretty sick too. Hit us up when you're in the area.

[discordye]

Yeah do it. Good times await!

[hedfan1]

hey grip, if your looking for courses near Motley, don't spend the time to go to staples, I see it as a huge dissapointment. Wadena has a pretty nice 9 hole course. Lots of goose poop though. Don't let Johnson mis lead you, Lum park is a fairly respectable course besides the final 5 hole baskets like Johnson said. They catch the discs, sometimes. It has some nice Ace runs, some hyzer drives, anhyzer drives, straight drives and one longer hole for gripNripen. Therer are some nice gaps to shoot, water that comes into play with short and long tees to mix it up.

If you came to play and it happens to be the first Tuesday of the month we might let a few DGCR members join for a little fun ;)

Otherwise if your in the area and looking to play, send any of us (discordye, Johnson or myself) a message. I'm sure at least one of us could make it out to show you around the place.

Cheers!

[Johnson]

Don't take my word for it, there are a few reviews on Lum on this site.

[hedfan1]

Most of the respectable reviews read that it would be a higher rated course if it had nicer baskets. Correct.

[gripNrip91]

for sure i will keep you guys posted, but i am not playing this winter because it is my first year of playing and i dont think im ready for winter golf. and dont be hesitant to PM me if your in my neck of the woods:D, i have bryant lake, elm creek park reserve, BRP, Crown college, sportsmans hill, both courses in St.cloud, clearwater/pleasant lake, Baylor park and Hyland SSA less than an hour drive for me, and kaposia is a little bit farther like 1 hour and 15 min.