i hate inaccurate tee pad signs, don't you?

[discordye]

Thought I was throwing an average of 250, till my friend used a land survey measure and found all the holes at Lum park in brainerd to be way off. Now I know I throw an average of 330. Pretty mad about that, I was like, why can all those guys from the discraft throwing clinic throw 350 to 400 and I cant? :doh::mad:

[discordye]

Just realized this is posted on the wrong page, sorry

[redskins98]

there are several holes like that...I try not to measure my distance in my head because as long as I get close to the basket, I'm ok with whatever I threw. It is, however, nearly impossible for me not to wonder how long I throw.

[hedfan1]

Thought I was throwing an average of 250, till hedfan1 used a land survey measure and found all the holes at Lum park in brainerd to be way off. Now I know I throw an average of 330. Pretty mad about that, I was like, why can all those guys from the discraft throwing clinic throw 350 to 400 and I cant? :doh::mad:

FIXED :popcorn:

When a tee is marked 277' feet and I get a measurement of 352' I felt the need to measure all of the holes and mark the tees for all to see.

[Apothecary]

there are several holes like that...I try not to measure my distance in my head because as long as I get close to the basket, I'm ok with whatever I threw. It is, however, nearly impossible for me not to wonder how long I throw.

oh man...im the complete opposite. i obsess over how long holes are and how long they play, with the goal of choosing the proper disc for the job. i use the term 'deceptively' quite a bit. :\

[Thumber]

oh man...im the complete opposite. i obsess over how long holes are and how long they play, with the goal of choosing the proper disc for the job. i use the term 'deceptively' quite a bit. :\

Your tee shot on #18 at Coyote last week leads me to believe you think all holes are deceptively shorter than they appear :rolleyes:

[snappyfingers]

I have a terrible sense of distance... I just stand on the tee and decide which disc I can throw "that" far with accuracy.

I met a guy recently at my home course (Oak Grove (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=608)) who was taking the measurements of all the different pin positions. I've been trying to get those numbers from him so I can 1. upload to the site and 2. get an idea on what I'm throwing.

[redskins98]

oh man...im the complete opposite. i obsess over how long holes are and how long they play, with the goal of choosing the proper disc for the job. i use the term 'deceptively' quite a bit. :\

That's not to say that I don't pay attention to the holes or anything. I look for the basket and judge the distance in my head. I don't look at a hole and think, "Oh that's 300 feet, probably should pull out the teebird." I look at a hole and think, "curves left, thats pretty far, that looks like a teebird shot for me." Too many times the tee's are marked wrong or are graffiti-ed over so I just don't pay much attention to them anymore.

[snappyfingers]

Too many times the tee's are marked wrong or are graffiti-ed over so I just don't pay much attention to them anymore.

Yep.... :thmbdown:

[Cgkdisc]

Consider wrong distances a cheap way for the designer to add challenge to the hole...:D

[tallpaul]

^^^Chuck, you so funny....

[Apothecary]

Your tee shot on #18 at Coyote last week leads me to believe you think all holes are deceptively shorter than they appear :rolleyes:

easy...:mad:

i merely intended to give you a memorable, jovial experience to end the round...:rolleyes:

[sillybizz]

You got to remember though that just because a hole is 270 feet it doesn't mean you didn't throw shorter or longer than that. The measurement (most of the time) is taken by going directly at the hole from the tee pad in a perfect line but how many times do you go perfectly straight at the hole? Classic example is throwing knife hyzers on a 150 foot hole; yes the hole is measured at 150 feet but your throw took 250+ feet worth of power to get it there.

[Thumber]

easy...:mad:

i merely intended to give you a memorable, jovial experience to end the round...:rolleyes:

It was definitely jovial lol...ah good times

Tee pad signs don't seem accurate most of the time

[snappyfingers]

It was definitely jovial lol...ah good times

Tee pad signs don't seem accurate most of the time

Let me guess, he threw an Ion?

[Apothecary]

i didnt like the way a worm was looking at me 30' out on an uphill hole...soi threw an avenger ss at him. i missed and he laughed at me, so i threw a vision at him.

alas, he (and the course) prevailed.:doh:

[Thumber]

i didnt like the way a worm was looking at me 30' out on an uphill hole...soi threw an avenger ss at him. i missed and he laughed at me, so i threw a vision at him.

alas, he (and the course) prevailed.:doh:

you were about 25 feet short with your first attempt......i still don't know how you did it. I didn't know it was possible to do that ....good thing u threw lots of great shots that day

[Apothecary]

what? my game was off like a prom dress all day.:o

[Thumber]

what? my game was off like a prom dress all day.:o

I'm tryin here dude....work with me

[Apothecary]

i did hit center basket on the hardest damn 195' hole in existence though...;)

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_pics/83/854e43d3.jpg

[Thumber]

that hole is ridiculous.....and yes you smashed the top of the basket about 1 inch too high

[sirflicksalot]

it sucks

[BogeyNoMore]

Consider wrong distances a cheap way for the designer to add challenge to the hole...:D
So that's why they do it! ;)

When playing a course for the first time, I will use the posted distance as one of several factors when selecting a disk. Sometimes it's hard to tell just by eyeballing it how far away a pin is. Very wide or narrow fairways and other factors can create sitautions where optical perception is decieved. But then again... maybe my eyeball estimate was correct... and the posted distance was wrong. How's a DGer supposed to know?

It'd be neat to carry a laser sight in my bag... now you guys know what to get me for X-mas!

[Triflusal]

I was at a course where I played through twice, and the second time around someone in front of me had definitely sharpied on new distances. Im not sure how I feel about people remarking tee signs

[tmahan]

Couse managers tend to constantly be looking for ways to improve or add variety to a course, usually by moving or adding tee or pin positions. It's difficult and expensive to keep signs up to date, and signage almost always get lower priority than a new pin position during work days.

I wonder if something like this would work; when designing a sign just have the permanent artwork show the physical features of the land the hole resides upon, trees, creeeks, rocks, etc. The artwork should include land in front and behind the hole as when holes are changed they're generally extended. Then have stickers or magnets that represent the tees and pins, such as A- Pin, B- Pin, Red-Tee-White Tee, Championship Tee, etc). As tee or pin positions are moved the stickers/magnets could be moved to reflect the update. A little grid could be up in the corner showing the distacnce to the various pins from the various tees, these distances could be filled in with erasable markers or covered over with stickers with the new distances. The plexiglass cover would need to be removeable (but not too easily) to allow these updates.

[jhgonzo]

We measured all the LTC holes by measuring wheel, felt they came out pretty accurate as far as what we listed on the tee signs...however, when I told LTC about rubber tees when the head maintenance guy complained about the mulch tees, they went ahead and bought the tees, and staked 'em down almost halfway up the original tees, changing the tee angle on others, thus affecting all distances by anywhere from 3' to 6'. Not a big drastic change, so I'm not too worried about the slight inaccuracies, especially since the measuring wheel technique probably wasn't 100% to begin with...I'm more peeved at how they installed the pads, even after I told them I had an in-depth article detailing how rubber/concrete tees should be installed.

[CwAlbino]

Your tee shot on #18 at Coyote last week leads me to believe you think all holes are deceptively shorter than they appear :rolleyes:

How long is the hole, and how far did he throw? lol. :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[shinypickle]

oh man...im the complete opposite. i obsess over how long holes are and how long they play, with the goal of choosing the proper disc for the job. i use the term 'deceptively' quite a bit. :\

agreed:hfive:

[Apothecary]

How long is the hole, and how far did he throw? lol. :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

read the whole thread. the story is in there...:p

[CaptainAnhyzer]

Nice that we have a couple land surveyers in our club........ all the holes have been checked and double-checked at J-Park, Hyzer Creek and Central Park. Signage is accurate to within a foot.

[sloppydisc]

Aren't most, or at least a decent percentage of signs inaccurate? I damn well know I throw at LEAST 500'!!! Damn park guys. fix your signs.

[andrewkh]

a lot of signs are off, if you want to know how far you can throw it's best to go measure and mark off distances in an open field and figure it out that way. on the course holes are either inaccurately measured or "play" longer or shorter then they really are due to elevation changes so finding out how far you throw is next to impossible that way

[Noill Golf]

what do you guys think a laser measurement tool runs for..?

I am giving serious thought to getting one.

[The dude on the bike]

Walk it off man, it's not worth it.

[wolito]

I don't play a hole any differently if I knew the exact distance anyway so I don't really look at feet. If I stand on a teepad and it says 235 feet, then I will use a Buzzz or whatnot, no, my disc choice is not influenced by the actual distance.

[discordye]

Yeah but your relying on that distance to compare with other holes.

[Steve West]

Nice that we have a couple land surveyers in our club........ all the holes have been checked and double-checked at J-Park, Hyzer Creek and Central Park. Signage is accurate to within a foot.

That's good, because I know how far all of my discs will go with any kind of throw all the time, no matter the elevation change, with any wind speed, to within a foot.

And, since my throws always land exactly in line with the target, I can just subtract the length of my first throw from the tee sign distance to figure the distance I need to throw my second shot.

(Which of those little faces represents sarcasm?)

[AKormendi]

what do you guys think a laser measurement tool runs for..?

I am giving serious thought to getting one.

Was curious. Seems you can get a Laser Rangefinder with accuracy of +/- a yard up to 1000', for $125.99

So, not cheap, but for horrible statistic addicts like myself, potentially worth it.

If you're exceedingly rich, you can blow thousands of dollars and more on these things. There's apparently quite a high end in measuring devices.

[koogs]

I went very low-end on my measuring device. I used a 50' extension cord and a tape measure to measure distances to various objects on my practice field. I know, to the foot, exactly how far I can't throw. :(

[discordye]

So how far can't you throw?

[Beable]

I vaguely recall an article about using your thumb size vs the basket to see how far you were throwing. Do this, and then don't worry about what the sign says!