Sherman, Tx

[Marty McFly]

Whats the skinny on getting a course built? I know we have a lot of Sherman members on here.

Perfect sized town, great parks, college town, and what are we missing?

[giles]

Go to PDGA.com and look under courses/resources

One of the best courses I've played in TX is very close to Sherman. Private course though.

[Disc]

I have given information to a couple of the park and rec board members. Supposedly it is part of Phase 2 of the new park they are putting in near FM1417 and 82. I'm a little nervous since they haven't asked about course design. I'm trying get in touch with one of the baord members to get the lastest info. When I get more info I will post it.

[Marty McFly]

We need to do whatever we can to make sure they don't just throw baskets in the park. I'm afraid they will take our good idea and cheese it out.

Phase 2? How many phases 92 lol...

[sgb118]

If you guys get this thing rolling, or need help with anything, I will do everything I can to help make it happen. I am a student at Austin College, so I can help pretty readily. Keep the info posted, and I will keep an eye on this thread.

[Meast918]

Sgb, I go to AC also. I agree with Sgb, if there is anything I can do to promote DG in Sherman I am all for it.


Giles--what course is it?

[Disc]

I'm glad to see the support. We will probably need all we can get:)
I should have more info Friday or Monday.

[Marty McFly]

I just sent some emails to the director of parks and rec for Sherman. I hope to hear back soon.

[solomon.trenton]

this has nothing to do with the thread but why did you pick the name marty mcfly?

[Marty McFly]

this has nothing to do with the thread but why did you pick the name marty mcfly?

I just love the movie... Back to the future (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/).

Plus it's a great name. Also was my Xbox live tag when I was playing.

I grew up in the 80's so I guess that is really why.

[Meast918]

Disc you seem to have a pretty good grasp on things going on with the city, but I was curious to know if it would be beneficial to maybe have all the Sherman and surrounding area DGers meet up somewhere and discuss this subject or anything else?

[Marty McFly]

Disc you seem to have a pretty good grasp on things going on with the city, but I was curious to know if it would be beneficial to maybe have all the Sherman and surrounding area DGers meet up somewhere and discuss this subject or anything else?

+1

Great idea!

This is the email that I received from the Recreation Coordinator (Al Penn-White) for Sherman. Now how is it that we have a Rec Coordinator but zero DG courses?

Well anywho this is what he said.

Wes,

I have looked into the possibility of having a Disc-Golf course – We (City of Sherman ) are trying to expand our sports activities and this one is on our list.

I am going to Mesquite hopefully within next few weeks and look at their program.

Thank you for your interest…………



Al

So my guess is, if we really encourage him and show some major support... we can make this happen. How about, everyone shoot him an email letting him know how supportive we are of him and his work. Then let him know we are here to help and want to see this through. Nothing rude are obnoxious. Just show our support and eagerness. Maybe then we can push him harder to see this DG course happen. If sees enough interest, he might start it faster.

[Meast918]

Does anyone else have a portable basket by chance? I though it may be a good way to play and be beneficial (if we get a course) to take them out to the proposed site or other parks and play/design a preliminary course. This might also drum up interest from other park users.

[Marty McFly]

Does anyone else have a portable basket by chance? I though it may be a good way to play and be beneficial (if we get a course) to take them out to the proposed site or other parks and play/design a preliminary course. This might also drum up interest from other park users.

Currently making my own.

Not a bad idea. What parks did you guys have in mind for the Sherman course?

[sgb118]

So my guess is, if we really encourage him and show some major support... we can make this happen. How about, everyone shoot him an email letting him know how supportive we are of him and his work.

Could you post the email address or a site where it can be found?
Thanks, Sam

[Marty McFly]

Could you post the email address or a site where it can be found?
Thanks, Sam

Yes here it is. -> alpw@ci.sherman.tx.us

And here is the new email he just sent me.
Wes,


Let’s get together one day next week – before I go to Mesquite .

Let me know what day and time is good for you. I can meet also after 5:00pm if you are working during the day.

Just let me know.


Al

I was thinking you guys should come as well. Lets figure out a time and day and meet up with this guy. I was thinking next Thursday. We need to get some ideas in mind and really tell him what we would like done. If you want to come let me know.

[Meast918]

I am down for meeting up and helping out. Thursdays are great for me and it may be good to inform Mr. Penn-White that others could be joining the meeting to offer suggestions. Apparently from what I have heard from Disc, is that there is a new park going in at 1417 and 82 and i think that is a proposed site. Just driving past the area looks pretty nice.

[Marty McFly]

I am down for meeting up and helping out. Thursdays are great for me and it may be good to inform Mr. Penn-White that others could be joining the meeting to offer suggestions. Apparently from what I have heard from Disc, is that there is a new park going in at 1417 and 82 and i think that is a proposed site. Just driving past the area looks pretty nice.

Yep, already let him know and got the OK. He also said no park has been selected or thought about at the moment and is open for ideas.

[Marty McFly]

I plan on playing town lake in McKinney, Thursday around 4:00 p.m.

If you guys are down, join my wife and I and we can talk about ideas.

PM me if you plan on coming. We are flexible on times.

[Disc]

I agree that we should get together and discuss ideas. My son has a track meet Thursday so I can't make it to Town Lake. I did meet Meat tonight at the Alex Clark mini. I'm glad you got some response from Mr. Penn-White. I sent him info several months ago and he said he would review it but never replied back. I have given the same infomation to Shane Best and he said the board liked it. He told me it was part of Phase 2 so maybe he is stringing me along. Since I work for the same company as he I will pay him a visit and find out. Of course I will be nice about it.

I will be at Towne Lake Friday afternoon and plan on playing the mini at 6. If you can make it let me know. I will have my 2 sons with me.

I will send Mr. Penn-White another e-mail just to show more interest.

[Meast918]

I talked to Ron Silliman (CCDISCGOLF) last night at the mini and he is more than happy to come up and do some consultation and meet with the city with us. Ron has a lot of experience with these kind of things and is always giving back to the community and would be a HUGE help to us. Ron is the designer of Towne Lake in Mckinney--One of the best courses in North Texas.

[Disc]

Hey Meast I just realized I made a typo with your name. Sorry.

[Marty McFly]

I agree that we should get together and discuss ideas. My son has a track meet Thursday so I can't make it to Town Lake. I did meet Meat tonight at the Alex Clark mini. I'm glad you got some response from Mr. Penn-White. I sent him info several months ago and he said he would review it but never replied back. I have given the same infomation to Shane Best and he said the board liked it. He told me it was part of Phase 2 so maybe he is stringing me along. Since I work for the same company as he I will pay him a visit and find out. Of course I will be nice about it.

I will be at Towne Lake Friday afternoon and plan on playing the mini at 6. If you can make it let me know. I will have my 2 sons with me.

I will send Mr. Penn-White another e-mail just to show more interest.

What time will you be out around Friday?

[Meast918]

I will be at TL today probably around 1:30 or so- going to try to take on the red tees today.

[Disc]

I'm going to try and make it around 3:00.

[Meast918]

Well anymore news over the weekend?

[Marty McFly]

No real news here. I will be out of town this week so would anybody like to take my place for the meeting?

Or we can wait until I get back... either way we need to get it going. I gave him links to the innova and pdga sites on course design.

Also told him about multiple tees and basket locations.

[Disc]

Is there a meeting scheduled?

The board member I'm talking with didn't give me any new information. But he told a friend of mine that he would be happy with getting just 6 baskets. In my opinion that will be a waste of time. I don't think putting in an 18 basket disc golf course will bust the budget. It will get used more than most things the city installs. I feel like I'm getting the run around.

I sent the same info to Al Pen-White last August and never heard anything back from him. So last week I replied to my e-mail asking him if he had reviewed the info and he said he did. He also told me he was going to Mesquite and he was going to Rockwall for the World's Biggest Disc Golf Weekend so maybe he will see what a good course can do for Sherman.

We will see.

[Marty McFly]

Yep back early and I do plan on meeting with him this Friday. Anyone is welcome.

[Disc]

Hey Marty which course did you decide to play in North Austin?
Do you have a time and location for tomorrows meeting?

[Disc]

Below is the e-mail I received from Shane Best on Monday. He is the board member I have been communicating with.

Here is a link showing some of the construction they have done at Pecan Grove. http://www.cityofsherman.org/park_dept.asp

Sorry. I was out of the country.

I'm back and responding... they are intending to place this in the Phase II of the complex. Did I mention before that part of the set back originally was the death of our previous P&R Director? I'm working on the new one but I plan to use your subsequent email and forward to the new Director as well as the City Manager and Mayor since this is getting absolutely no traction, in my opinion.

[Marty McFly]

Al's office around 9:00 a.m.

We played Bartholomew Park and enjoyed it. Wish we had more time to play.

[Marty McFly]

And before I meet with him, give me your requests.

Parks, # of baskets, concrete tees, multiple tees, etc. What we really need and what we should stay away from.

[Disc]

Wish I could make it but I can’t get away from work this morning.

18 basket course with multiple tee’s and multiple basket locations. Concrete tee’s with appropriate dimensions. I like the way Towne Lake is setup.

I had originally given Shane a layout of Fairview Park but since then I really feel that Fairview Park has too much traffic. They did extend the walking path to the other side of the creek so maybe there is more room. If Pecan Grove has enough land then that might be a good location. Especially since the park is in its developing stage.

See if the city would be willing to hire a designer. If not I believe Meast said that Ron would be willing to help. I think he did a great job with Towne Lake.

If the city absolutely can’t do anything then maybe they could purchase a few baskets and place them at Herman Baker or in the Park on Hiway 11. I really hate suggesting that since I feel Sherman should be able to install a course.

If you guy’s are up for it lets start a club. I already have the web site. As a club we could help with the installation such as cleanup, remove debris. Once the course is in we could help keep it clean and promote disc golf to gain interest. Just a thought.

Good luck and I wish I could join you. Remember that $20,000 sounds like a lot of money to us but it is just a very small piece of the city budget.

[sgb118]

What is the news from the meeting?
I hope it is good...

[Marty McFly]

Yes all good news and very positive stuff.

We are looking good! Plans at Pecan Grove by end of summer.

He wants us to help design it. Hiring a contractor was never really an option for them. Looks like 15 - 18 baskets(depending on room), concrete tee pads and multi pen locations.

I agree about starting a club!

I know you said you got a site, but I also can make any kind of website from scratch along with logos. Lets get it stated who wants to be the fearless leader? Who has time and really want to head this out?

[Disc]

I'm glad to hear postive news. Maybe we can get Ron to come and take a look.

Lets all try to meet somwhere and discuss. I'm up for some coffee:)

[Meast918]

Hey All,
Sorry I was at the Lone Star Championship tournament this weekend so I wasn't able to get on. I like all these ideas especially the club one and I know that Ron would definitely be up to coming out and helping us with the course design

[Meast918]

The best way to start all this may just be to meet a Pecan Grove, I can bring my portable basket and just set it up and play some and see what we come up with and maybe invite the parks people come out with us and play. This way they will be able to talk with us about the course ideas and they will be able to play as well.

[Marty McFly]

Well I worked on the site today and I think it will work for now. Let me know what you guys think.

I can add anything else we need. I just wanted to get it started. Please let me know what you think.

Shermandgc (http://shermandgc.t83.net/)

[Meast918]

The website looks like an excellent start Marty. I would love to get out this week and take some shots at PG.

[Marty McFly]

The website looks like an excellent start Marty. I would love to get out this week and take some shots at PG.

Thanks!

I will be out of town again starting Friday through Wednesday....

However feel free to play without me. My buddy and I were planning on throwing Tuesday after work. 6esh @ PG. If you guys are down let me know.

[Disc]

I will try to be there with the boys. Good start with the website.

[Meast918]

I can be there also. How many baskets do we have between all of us. I have a Mach Lite

[Marty McFly]

I got a buddy with two but not sure if he can come yet. They are the rope baskets so not the best.

Just bring anybody and all the baskets you got.

[Marty McFly]

Looks like I will get out early and make it around 5:30

[CCDISCGOLF]

McFly,any news on this? I was going to go look at the park today?

[Marty McFly]

Yep, we had 5 go play it a few weeks ago. The place has alot of potential.

The word is, by end of summer we should have a course.

[Biff Tannen]

Hey Marty,
Any news on the Sherman course?

[Marty McFly]

You are my rival. I can not help you.

Thanks for the destroyer, I hope you view the thread where I claimed it!

[Biff Tannen]

McFly, McFly.
You know, it's been over twenty years since I knocked you off of your hover board w/my Star Destroyer. I thought that by now you'd have come to grips w/my being the best. :cool:

[Meast918]

So what's the news with Pecan Grove. I have been back home in Oklahoma for the summer working and haven't been around Sherman to hear any updates. Anything happening down there???

[Disc]

No official news but I heard that it was on a “to-do” list. No confirmed location or completion date.

[sgb118]

So it's been put on the back-burner? Do y'all still have contact with the parks and recreation guy? Maybe we should all email him again, so they know we are serious about this...

What does everyone think?

[Marty McFly]

Yeah lets shoot some emails to the rec staff and see whats up.

[okiebullgod]

Sherman being so close to the Oklahoma border, you may want to use the tourism angle. Tell him that the Oklahoma golfers would probably frequent it as well. He would please the locals and increase local business with out of town/state players. That should give them some insentive to not only build a course, but to build a course that will attract out of area players. I'm going to play Lewisville this weekend because it's fairly close and looks fun. Just a brainstorm

[Roc1Time]

So I take it there is no news? We have to get something between Denton and Ardmore dont we

[Disc]

I've heard no news. It would be nice to have another course on HiWay 75 north of McKinney. Don't get me wrong I love the McKinney courses I just don't like the drive.

[croutonjump]

Hello. Just wanted to say that we are VERY excited to hear of a possible course in Sherman! Disc golf is only going to get bigger, as we all know :D. Does anyone know what we can do to help see that this course indeed becomes reality? Currently we have to drive to McKinney or Rockwall in order to play. Let me know... thanks!!!!

[Disc]

I haven't heard anything in the last few months. I work for the same company as one of the board members and I will shoot him an e-mail. The last time I talked to him he said he brings it up at each meeting so I'm assuming he isn't making any headway. My neighbor knows the mayor so maybe I should try that angle.

I tried winning the Mega Millions but it didn't work:D

[Marty McFly]

Everyone I talked to said end of summer. I knew it was too good to be true.

We need to have another Sherman meet up again, that was fun. A buddy of mine went out to Pecan Grove today and saw nothing for a DG course.

[croutonjump]

Hey, let me know when you're planning a meet at Pecan Grove. I work here in Sherman, went to college here, grew up going to "The Mall" (Sher-Den, i.e.), and would certainly love to help get a course going. THANKS!!!

[Marty McFly]

Hey, let me know when you're planning a meet at Pecan Grove. I work here in Sherman, went to college here, grew up going to "The Mall" (Sher-Den, i.e.), and would certainly love to help get a course going. THANKS!!!

This is the guy who went to the park. Blame him for no course development as of now....

He also gets stung by bees every time we play in Rockwall.

Oh, and the only guy I know who loses two discs on one hole.

[croutonjump]

Do you really think that 2 discs/hole is a record? This would be AWESOME! And I even think that on the right day, I could go for three! Evening, Marty. Spot me 5, and watch me drive.

[Marty McFly]

Do you really think that 2 discs/hole is a record? This would be AWESOME! And I even think that on the right day, I could go for three! Evening, Marty. Spot me 5, and watch me drive.

You can drive, but I have seen you putt.

[croutonjump]

That's cold, Marty. I'm reporting your post.

[Meast918]

I just back into Sherman from being home in Tulsa all summer, I was really ready to go play at the new course but it looks like its not in. Bummer. We need to get some action going

[croutonjump]

Any news of late on the course here in Sherman?
Thanks!

[croutonjump]

You can drive, but I have seen you putt.

"NUMBER FIVE IS ALIVE"..., BUT NOT FOR LONG! I know you hear my footsteps, Marty.

[Marty McFly]

Emailed the head honcho just now.

[Marty McFly]

I just back into Sherman from being home in Tulsa all summer, I was really ready to go play at the new course but it looks like its not in. Bummer. We need to get some action going

From Tulsa to Sherman... BIG difference in course selection lol. :D

[Meast918]

You're telling me Marty, I went from playing Minis everynight and only having to drive 10 mins to get to any number of courses to now having to drive 30 mins to get to two. Don't get me wrong I love the Mckinney courses.

[Meast918]

THANK YOU Academy for picking up some discraft. I went to the Sherman Academy today, and low and behold there was an amazing selection on ESP Surges, Z and Pro-D Avenger SS, Z Buzzzes, and Pro-D Challengers. I was tempted to purchase the surge buzz and challenger, but ended up with just the challenger.

On another note Academy has also increased their stock on all discs and have even added Champ Bosses!!

[Marty McFly]

Sherman is moving up in the world. Now where the heck this that course????

[Biff Tannen]

THANK YOU Academy for picking up some discraft. I went to the Sherman Academy today, and low and behold there was an amazing selection on ESP Surges, Z and Pro-D Avenger SS, Z Buzzzes, and Pro-D Challengers. I was tempted to purchase the surge buzz and challenger, but ended up with just the challenger.

On another note Academy has also increased their stock on all discs and have even added Champ Bosses!!

NICE GOING, ACADEMY! Thanks for the heads up on the new product at Academy-- hope to get by there soon. When's the course coming to town?

[Biff Tannen]

Went by the other day (Sherman Academy) and surely enough, they have Discraft! Some Avenger SS, a Buzzz, and some others. Good stuff. Think maybe they're thinking a course is coming soon???

[Meast918]

Since it looks like we aren't really getting anywhere with the city and construction of a course, I had an idea the other day that might be a long shot but a chance. What if we approached the city about just getting baskets and possibly doing an install at a ball golf course in or around Sherman? Just another thought I had.

[giles]

Have you guys thought about doing some type of object course? Bury (no concrete) some 4x4 posts w/ 4' exposed for the goal w/ some 1' exposed for the tee. paint them up nice w/ the hole numbers on both. Or you could get ambitious and buy the poles for baskets at $35 each and cement them in to be ready for baskets and chain hangers later. If you could just get them to give you some land to use it would be a good start. Get some type of local interest. A weekly mini with a few dollars going to the club to buy more/better equipment. With some type of start you may even be able to get sponsorship from local businesses. I know "Big Jim" from Oklahoma and his family drive to McKinney to play like many of you must do.

The sad part is. You have one of the best courses in Texas in your area. It is private though. I think they have another 2 they set up on a temporary basis on private land.

[Meast918]

What course is that Giles and where is it?

[Biff Tannen]

Have you guys thought about doing some type of object course? Bury (no concrete) some 4x4 posts w/ 4' exposed for the goal w/ some 1' exposed for the tee. paint them up nice w/ the hole numbers on both. Or you could get ambitious and buy the poles for baskets at $35 each and cement them in to be ready for baskets and chain hangers later. If you could just get them to give you some land to use it would be a good start. Get some type of local interest. A weekly mini with a few dollars going to the club to buy more/better equipment. With some type of start you may even be able to get sponsorship from local businesses. I know "Big Jim" from Oklahoma and his family drive to McKinney to play like many of you must do.

The sad part is. You have one of the best courses in Texas in your area. It is private though. I think they have another 2 they set up on a temporary basis on private land.

A weekly mini- object golf for now-- and raise some cash for equipment? Sound like great ideas to me.

[Biff Tannen]

Hey again.
I wonder if we could/should form a Texoma Disc Golf Club-- through which we could have mini's, raise some money, buy some equipment, etc? And here's another thought-- at Hawn (or, "Haun") Park, on Dewey Ave. (Hwy 11) in Sherman, there appears to be LOTS of unused land that could possibly support a DG course. In this area of town, more "clean" fun might be welcomed. There's a skate park, a (long) paved walking/running trail, a water squirt park, playground, pavillion... just need some objects for now, progressing to baskets, maybe?? I'm telling you-- LOTS of WIDE OPEN LAND here-- perhaps a course that would provide some variety for us, considering McKinney has lots of good trees/obstacles on many fairways. I've played Riverside in Tulsa/Jenks, OK, and the layout could possibly be similar here at Hawn (Haun) Park. Let me know what you think. I'm a physical therapist here in Sherman, live in Trenton, and have a young family-- pretty busy is what I'm trying to say, like we all are. But I'd sure like to do what I can to help support DG in the Texoma area!! Thanks.

[Marty McFly]

I'm just sad we can't play today. That tourney was going to be fun.

I'm up for anything.

[giles]

What course is that Giles and where is it?

Sorry for the tease. I'm not really at liberty to say. I have played it by invite before but the owner isn't a close friend so I don't know if I can give out that info.

He has tournaments some times, so next time I hear about one I'll find out if I can give out the info.

If you guys get anything going in that area I'm sure he will find out and possibly be a part of it. He would be a good guy to get involved in design.

[Biff Tannen]

Anybody out there? Heard any news about the course in Sherman??

[Marty McFly]

Anybody out there? Heard any news about the course in Sherman??

Nope, talk about total fall out by the city of Sherman. I have emailed several parks and rec members with no reply.

[adamb258]

This is a bummer, My family lives in sherman and it sucks having to drive to mckinney when im visiting if I want to play

[Tree Magnet]

Wow...I really wish Sherman had a course. I go there weekly and would play it almost every time I was there. I'd possibly be down for a mini if that helped build the interest, and ultimately get a course built.

And I often buy my discs from the Academy there in Sherman. :cool: