RHBH Breakthrough

[littleshoe]

Bought a 172 DX Wraith today. I've been wanting a wraith for a while and it's payday so... good times. Anyway I immediately took it to a big empty field to practice with it a bit and I wanted to try my RHBH drives on it.

Recently I've been watching a ton of Nate Doss videos on YouTube and I've basically picked up his form short the Xstep (for now). I've also switched from a three finger to a two finger grip (previously had a lot of problems grip-locking the disc).

It was a thing of beauty... long and dead straight and for my RHBH drives that is a HUGE improvement. I've been primarily a RHFH player, but now with this in my toolbox we'll see how the game goes. Without a Xstep I was matching my average FH distance WITH a xstep.

Mostly posting this to say that if there is anyone else who the RHBH drive is eluding DON'T GIVE UP just keep at it and it'll click. Can't wait til tomorrow morning to go out and try this on my other discs!

[Geoffro]

Good for you, littleshoe! Wish I could have a breakthrough...I'm going to check out the Nate Doss videos.

[Hamilton]

FH with an x step? I'm confused

[ejvogie]

Yeah, Wraiths are great. I played dubs with a guy who asked if I would sell him mine, I said no. He says, "Yeah, nobody ever wants to sell their Wraith." :D

[flash86]

Congratulations! I had a recent breakthrough of my own from watching one of the pros. I am primarily RHBH and use a X Step and my Max D was about 375'. From watching and then copying Dave Feldberg's Hop Step, my Max D shot up to approximately 425' almost over night. Amazing what can happen when you make one change and your game takes a huge leap forward.

[tamahawk]

Congrats on the breakthrough! I think if you'll get use to the RHBH and work with it, you may eventually prefer it to the forehand. I can't throw forehand at all, so I only throw it when it is my only option.

As far as the Wraith, it is one of my favorite drivers. Someone gave me a ProWraith about 2yrs ago, and it has been my go-to driver since. It is starting to get real flippy on me from all the wear, but I've got a replacement on the way from Disc Golf Center.

[SpringDgLover]

Bought a 172 DX Wraith today. I've been wanting a wraith for a while and it's payday so... good times. Anyway I immediately took it to a big empty field to practice with it a bit and I wanted to try my RHBH drives on it.

Recently I've been watching a ton of Nate Doss videos on YouTube and I've basically picked up his form short the Xstep (for now). I've also switched from a three finger to a two finger grip (previously had a lot of problems grip-locking the disc).

It was a thing of beauty... long and dead straight and for my RHBH drives that is a HUGE improvement. I've been primarily a RHFH player, but now with this in my toolbox we'll see how the game goes. Without a Xstep I was matching my average FH distance WITH a xstep.

Mostly posting this to say that if there is anyone else who the RHBH drive is eluding DON'T GIVE UP just keep at it and it'll click. Can't wait til tomorrow morning to go out and try this on my other discs!

Im sorry but I don't understand your referrence to a "three finger grip" or for that matter a "two finger grip". I've never driven without all four fingers in the rim. Never thought about removing fingers. I'm assuming this has helped you and maybe I should give this a shot.

[Midnightbiker]

I always use 3 fingers to drive. I can't use 4. On my approach shots, I use two fingers. This causes the disc to slight hyzer, and I shoot just right of the basket, and it usually plops right in. You saw me approach that one day we played, and you saw it work.

[buzzinb]

Being able to throw BH will make L-turning shots seem so much more natural. I personally find it more difficult to get a FH shot to turnover predictably than to simply throw a flat BH with a disc that will hyzer for me (wraith, crush, wasp, etc.).

[solomon.trenton]

FH with an x step? I'm confused

agreed but way to go on your breakthrough

[ERicJ]

Im sorry but I don't understand your referrence to a "three finger grip" or for that matter a "two finger grip". I've never driven without all four fingers in the rim. Never thought about removing fingers. I'm assuming this has helped you and maybe I should give this a shot.
Check out this article:
http://discgolfreview.com/resources/articles/gripittoripit.shtml

[zenbot]

*still waiting for mentioned breakthrough*

[Nosh]

Switching to a three finger grip gave me an easy 30' bump right off the bat. I used to throw about 230'-250' on average but now I'm zeroing in on 300' as my next evolution in my drive. I wish I would have tried it earlier as it seems to me you need less finesse with grip pressure with less fingers on the disc. Although I figured this one out on my own, this is a great tip for beginners like me who struggle with grip lock or can't get the proper rip and end up releasing the disc by letting go. As for a "breakthrough", I'm sure the OP meant 'personal' breakthrough. :D

[mashnut]

Switching to a three finger grip gave me an easy 30' bump right off the bat. I used to throw about 230'-250' on average but now I'm zeroing in on 300' as my next evolution in my drive. I wish I would have tried it earlier as it seems to me you need less finesse with grip pressure with less fingers on the disc. Although I figured this one out on my own, this is a great tip for beginners like me who struggle with grip lock or can't get the proper rip and end up releasing the disc by letting go. As for a "breakthrough", I'm sure the OP meant 'personal' breakthrough. :D

Very cool that you found something to make that much of a difference in your game! I had exactly the opposite experience with my grip. I switched from a 3 finger grip to a 4 finger grip and added 20-30' without very much loss in accuracy, and now that I've been practicing it, I throw much longer and with more accuracy than before. It really is about trying different things until you find what works for you.

[giles]

Just my opinion but I think a lot of improvements after a small change in grip or disc selection could be attributed to overcoming a mental block or shifting concentration allowing your unconscious to take over.

[mashnut]

Just my opinion but I think a lot of improvements after a small change in grip or disc selection could be attributed to overcoming a mental block or shifting concentration allowing your unconscious to take over.

That's almost certainly true. I think that really applies to new putters. Every time I talk to someone who's trying out a new putter, they do really well with it the first few times out, then eventually end up back at about the level they were putting before the change.

[Nosh]

Just my opinion but I think a lot of improvements after a small change in grip or disc selection could be attributed to overcoming a mental block or shifting concentration allowing your unconscious to take over.

Mental block or not, I'll take improvement any way I can get it. :p I found that with the three finger grip I have to worry less about the rip and I can focus on wrist/disc position to get the proper flight out of the disc. I still have yet to get proper flight consistently but every now and again I get a beautiful, albeit a short 300', flight from my leopard or valk. Next step is putting in some footwork. :)