Roc Bomb

[littleshoe]

So I bombed my Roc yesterday at the local high school football field from goalpost to goalpost... ~360' in a straight line... it was amazing.

So here's what I did:

Basically make my entire arm limp (including my wrist) then when I come around snap it like a whip. It, again, was amazing. Thoughts?

Is this considered bad technique? I could get it to go pretty much right where I wanted... and there was a follow through. I'm not feeling any pain today but any info from you seasoned people would be great.

[giles]

How is your approach/x-step? Are you going through it smoothly or pausing right before you throw? From the description it reminds me of a lot of people I see with a "hitch" in their run-up. If you are coming through your run up smooth and accelerate all the way into the hit, I'd say you got it.

[littleshoe]

I actually did this flat footed without a run up or xstep.

[gvan]

When your arm goes "limp," does your throwing shoulder drop? If I need a bit more distance I'll let my shoulder drop right before the pull. That sort of feels like my arm going limp. I get some extra distance doing that.

Great Roc distance. My max with a Roc is about 310 or so.

[littleshoe]

I'll try that, thanks!

[giles]

Cool. I can't help you.
I'll I can think is... why? You a large guy? Did you do this once or toss back and forth? Do you allways throw flat footed?

[Lewis]

Did you have a 40mph tailwind? ;)

[garublador]

Let me guess, right before the disc left your hand it felt kind of like it pressed into your palm and then just launched itself. It started off hyzer but snapped up to flat and when it would noramlly fade it either stayed flat or turned over a bit? In other words, it didn't really look like a normal throw, flightwise, either.

It sounds like you felt "it." It's a combination of late acceleration and wrist extension achieved with correct mechanics and excellent timing. Keep it up!

[littleshoe]

Cool. I can't help you.
I'll I can think is... why? You a large guy? Did you do this once or toss back and forth? Do you allways throw flat footed?

Well my backhand form is so young I want to get really used to throwing it straight without a run up or xstep before I add one.

I've tried to duplicate this with my drivers but so far I haven't had much luck... my roc flies the best this way. Beast goes straight for a bit then turns over and never recovers, can't release my XCal flat enough and it leans and goes left.

[littleshoe]

Let me guess, right before the disc left your hand it felt kind of like it pressed into your palm and then just launched itself. It started off hyzer but snapped up to flat and when it would noramlly fade it either stayed flat or turned over a bit? In other words, it didn't really look like a normal throw, flightwise, either.

It sounds like you felt "it." It's a combination of late acceleration and wrist extension achieved with correct mechanics and excellent timing. Keep it up!

Yeah, I find the more I think about "it" the less "it" happens. I'm working on it though and it's getting better. Thanks!

[DSCJNKY]

I once had a girlfriend who threw flatfooted and could bomb drives out to ~300'. (she was a pitcher for her college softball team and therefore had some power and understood proper technique). Therefore, I suppose if it makes the motion easier a cross step is not necessary. If you can throw a roc that far flat footed on a repeateble basis, then more power to ya. Keep it up. There are some courses where the tee-pads are so bad that a run-up cross-step would be dangerous for fear of rolling your ankle. (redwwod curtain).
I would recommend learning a cross-step, but retaining your flat footed skill for those situations where a run up is unpractical. Good luck.
DSCJNKY

[tamahawk]

So I bombed my Roc yesterday at the local high school football field from goalpost to goalpost... ~360' in a straight line... it was amazing.

I threw 360ft once with a driver on a downhill shot...:D
WOW, nice throw!

[skurf]

Well my backhand form is so young I want to get really used to throwing it straight without a run up or xstep before I add one.

I've tried to duplicate this with my drivers but so far I haven't had much luck... my roc flies the best this way. Beast goes straight for a bit then turns over and never recovers, can't release my XCal flat enough and it leans and goes left.
How far can you throw drivers with backhand?

[westxchef]

My question is.. What grip are you using.. Power Grip, Fan Grip ?

[skottyb]

My question is.. What grip are you using.. Power Grip, Fan Grip ?

Yes great question.. please let us know your grip..

I just became a Roc fan, finally got mine 11x beat in enough to enjoy its flatness... also what was your release like? hyzer? I know you said you couldnt get an Xcal to work but what about a stable disc like a Teebird.. I have watched a guy toss one 500+..

[littleshoe]

How far can you throw drivers with backhand?

The longest throw I've ever gotten was an uphill shot with my wraith and it went about 320-330' according to signs at the course. So far that shot with the Roc has matched my longest shot with forehand, which is my primary drive.

[littleshoe]

My question is.. What grip are you using.. Power Grip, Fan Grip ?

I don't know what the grip is called, but I'll describe it to you:

Index and middle finger under the disc both lightly on the inside rim. Thumb on the top along the radius of the disc. I don't use ring or pinky.

[skurf]

The longest throw I've ever gotten was an uphill shot with my wraith and it went about 320-330' according to signs at the course. So far that shot with the Roc has matched my longest shot with forehand, which is my primary drive.
So you're playing on Earth where the laws of physics apply, correct? Cause none of this makes any sense. You can throw a mid-range further than a driver and your furthest shot with a driver was uphill....I don't get it.

[littleshoe]

my furthest backhand shot was uphill. I throw my forehand shots ~360' pretty regularly. I'm relatively new to a backhand drive.

[skurf]

Ah ok. So it's just that you don't have the backhand technique down well enough to be consistent at it. Although I have to say, that's really nice distance for a midrange, especially flat footed. Wish I could throw mine that far. I'm around 300 ft with a mid, which is about ~70-80 feet less than I can get with a driver, and that's with a full run-up and x-step. Looks like you have some serious potential there with the backhand.

[A.Mutt]

Very nice!

I've just started trying to get backhand down this year and also found that I can throw midranges long more consistently and more accurately. I should try what you're doing with sticking to no run up. I think thats been causing a lot of inconsistency as I try to figure out how to replicate those throws where you feel "it"