View Full Version : Cubby got his 300th ace!
JConnell
06-10-2008, 03:36 PM
http://cubbysdiscgolfworld.blogspot.com/2008/06/300-1-lots-of-fun-friday-morning-disc.html
And here I am waiting for my first...
DirtyMittenDG
06-10-2008, 04:56 PM
an ace is only on the first throw right? im sayin if you get close on your first throw and then throw another disc off of the same tee its not an ace right???, I doubt this guy has 300 TRUE aces, plus theres no way that he walks all the way to the basket with the video camera EVERY time and then walks back to the tee and gets an ace!!! If he's really that good I apologize, but does anyone else think thats a little sketchy???
DGtourist
06-10-2008, 05:19 PM
I don't think its sketchy, his youtube vids seem ligit to me. I think he's the man.
ERicJ
06-10-2008, 05:37 PM
Well Barry (http://innovadiscs.com/team/barry.html) has "300+", Ken's (http://innovadiscs.com/team/ken.html) got "105+" and Avery (http://innovadiscs.com/team/avery.html) has "100+"... other Pros like Jay (http://innovadiscs.com/team/jay.html) only have "20".
Looks like Chubby plays these two courses:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=557
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=1514
which have average hole lengths of 207' and 186' respectively.
I think I might be able to get to 300+ aces if I played this course in my town a couple times a day:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=1086&mode=hi
mike_riewer
06-10-2008, 05:47 PM
I believe he has 300 plus aces. And I am also sure some of them accured on short holes like you have said, but even still...He is still ligit!
I find myself asking the question, "Why would he try to become a pro?"
sk8architecture
06-10-2008, 05:59 PM
I do not think they are legit Aces. They may be aces but I view a legit ace as during a sanctioned event. May not have to be a PDGA event but it must be some sort of organized and recorded event. That goes for course records. I think a course record only counts if its during a sanctioned event. As Disc Golf grows and we want others to view it as a serious sport we must be serious on recording its stats. A ball golfer does not count all their practice hole in ones, nor can a baseball player count all their batting practice home runs. So legit aces no way in my opinion.
As far as impressive run at aces, good job chubby. I can't hit aces even when I unload the bag.
JR Stengele
06-10-2008, 06:05 PM
I agree somewhat with sk8architecture that scores need to be recorded to be legit. However, if I hit a hole in one on my first drive whether practice or not I am counting it. Although, with chubby, he has played the same courses over and over and over. I wonder how many he has in a tournament? Being that my 3 aces have only come from practice, I would rather count them then say I have none. Now if I had 300+ I might look at it differently. Also, I have been told by other pros that you need atleast two other individuals with you to make it count or else it could be your best friend hyping you up but who knows...
DirtyMittenDG
06-10-2008, 06:32 PM
So he walks to the basket, presses record, then walks all the way back to the tee, and gets an ace on the first throw, NO WAY!, Im sure this guys a great disc golfer and has a few aces but just the way he does it with setting up the camera makes it hard to believe. As far as the youtube vids go...... Im pretty good with video editing my self :)
JConnell
06-10-2008, 06:38 PM
I don't think its sketchy, his youtube vids seem ligit to me. I think he's the man.
Ditto. Anyone who hasn't watched his videos, read his comments, or listened to his podcasts really ought to. It amazes me that Cubby takes the time to set up his camera before each hole in hopes of capturing the greatest moment in disc golf, and then when he does, that he takes the time to share it with all of us.
He has 300 aces on disc golf courses...and whether or not he made them during a tournament is irrelevant to me. While far less rare, an ace in disc golf should be held in the same regard as an ace in ball golf IMO. In ball golf an ace is an ace, whether it was Joe Average making one at the local public course or Tiger Woods making one at Augusta.
magictenor1
06-10-2008, 08:13 PM
I have only seen the one video but I am skeptical. In the video you just see the disc go in the basket ,but not where it comes from. For all you know from that video the disc could have been thrown from 20 ft away. I do believe that an Ace is any FIRST shot on ahole when playing a round of DG. Not just in a tourney but also I would not count unloading the bag or other extra shots on a hole.
DGtourist
06-10-2008, 08:29 PM
there are way more than a hand full of videos on youtube that show him from tee to basket ace. In some of his responses he says he sets up the camera and if he misses he moves on. Setting up the camera on the next aceable hole. If you are good, play your home courses all the time, and begin to get a few aces, I don't why it seems impossile to keep doing it. I also don't see why you would continue to record them. After the first 30 I can take your word on it.
Russell Gore
06-11-2008, 07:13 AM
So he has 300 aces? Whoop-di-doo..... Total joke there. Anyhow yes he sets up the camera everytime. Yes he is shooting little bitty holes. However 300 have stuck. I can't knock the guy even though I'm pretty sure he throws multiple shots and they are almost all in practice rounds. The only problem I have with this guy is that you never hear about him from the PDGA. So is he really legit, or just some recreational player racking up aces, so he looks legit? I'm not sure, myself? I would love to see some of the shots that went past the basket....Does he ever have a chance at a putt after a missed ace. I bet they end up 100 ft past the basket. This is the whole reason why in my 15 years of playing that I only have 5. If you are running at the basket every shot your bound to screw yourself in the end!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Donovan
06-11-2008, 12:40 PM
Ditto. Anyone who hasn't watched his videos, read his comments, or listened to his podcasts really ought to. It amazes me that Cubby takes the time to set up his camera before each hole in hopes of capturing the greatest moment in disc golf, and then when he does, that he takes the time to share it with all of us.
He has 300 aces on disc golf courses...and whether or not he made them during a tournament is irrelevant to me. While far less rare, an ace in disc golf should be held in the same regard as an ace in ball golf IMO. In ball golf an ace is an ace, whether it was Joe Average making one at the local public course or Tiger Woods making one at Augusta.
I don't mean this in a bad way, but I must disagree on the ball golf comparison.
A Ball Golf Ace even at 100 yards will take you a whole lot more tries than a Disc Golf Ace. Some people play ball golf their entire lives playing 1000's of rounds with about 4 chances a round and never get an ace. I don't think the odds are that tough in Disc Golf even if the number of attempts are about the same. Disc Golf Targets are just bigger and easier to hit flying through smooth air than a tiny little hole on an imperfect surface. I don't really think it should be held in the same regard. However, it is still impressive and fun to throw a great shot like that.
I totally agree with the rest of your thoughts though. It is great that he shares this and, "GOOD FOR HIM!" I hope he keeps it up!
humchris85
06-11-2008, 04:59 PM
I do admire him for being able to get that many aces, but they are all on courses and holes that are shorter than almost anything we have out here. With such short courses that the holes average out at like 200 ft., almost no trees and no hills to speak of I don't think all of his are as impresive as any of the ace's I have seen or thrown at the redwood curtain. If I played every game at courses that short I would expect to have alot more aces as well, not 300 but more than I have.
Still I have to give credit where credit is due, props to cubby for getting all those discs to stick.
maniak
10-03-2008, 04:13 AM
I wonder how many times he plays a week or a day. If you check out his videos he mentiones the time of each ace. There's one from 7:00am all the way to 2:37am, the timing is all over the place.
Rbuzz9
10-03-2008, 08:58 AM
the setting up the camera at the basket is a little survormanish
ACE #301 was on a 57 foot hole - i dont think ive ever seen a hole that short
taxman
10-03-2008, 09:12 AM
I do not think they are legit Aces. They may be aces but I view a legit ace as during a sanctioned event. May not have to be a PDGA event but it must be some sort of organized and recorded event.
i don't know what the standards are in disc golf, but in ball golf all you need to record an Ace at a course is a signiture on the score card as a witness to your round of golf. it doesn't need to be durring tournament play. i would think that would hold true for disc golf also. the PGA rights the rules for golf tournaments, but the USGA rights the rules for general course play. we have the PDGA for our tournament rules, but where is our USDGA?
jedwards
10-03-2008, 09:16 AM
ACE #301 was on a 57 foot hole - i dont think ive ever seen a hole that short
That's more like a good putt.
treethacker
10-03-2008, 12:06 PM
Wish Cubby would answer this post himself. Actually you could ask him on u tube cause he seems to be pretty good about answering back.
I don't care if the ace was 57ft or 250ft I would be glad as hell to hit just one!!Arguing about whether its ligit or not is silly. So I guess if I ever hit my first ace and I am just out throwing with some friends it does'nt count cause I'm not playing in a pdga approved game? Wanna bet??:cool:
magictenor1
10-03-2008, 02:39 PM
I don't believe an Ace has to be in a tourney but I also don't think Aces where you are just continually throwing shots on short holes and not playing an actual round of DG are legit. If I went to a course with a 57 foot hole and threw it a few hundred times I am sure some would go in but I wouldn't call them Aces.
Rbuzz9
10-03-2008, 02:43 PM
nothing can be more black and white - an ace is an ace - doesnt have to be a sanctioned event. Just as long as its ur first shot on that particular hole. - no mulligans
and ballgolf is way harder to hit an ace - though i would say something like a 450' ace would be as impressive as a ballgolf ace. But an ace on a 57 foot hole is more along the lines of chipping in from off the green. Still a good shot and i'd take it but you can't equate that to a ball golf hole in one.
magictenor1
10-03-2008, 02:52 PM
nothing can be more black and white - an ace is an ace - doesnt have to be a sanctioned event. Just as long as its ur first shot on that particular hole. - no mulligans
and ballgolf is way harder to hit an ace - though i would say something like a 450' ace would be as impressive as a ballgolf ace. But an ace on a 57 foot hole is more along the lines of chipping in from off the green. Still a good shot and i'd take it but you can't equate that to a ball golf hole in one. Exactly. Couldn't agree more.
ERicJ
10-03-2008, 03:18 PM
nothing can be more black and white - an ace is an ace - doesnt have to be a sanctioned event. Just as long as its ur first shot on that particular hole. - no mulligans
Interesting perspective. What if you're playing in a non-sanctioned event, e.g. an Ice Bowl (http://www.icebowlhq.com/), that often sells mulligans as part of the fund raising? I'm pretty sure if you were to shank a drive, then take a mulligan and hit an Ace with it that you'd qualify for winning the Ace Pot.
If mulligans are part of the defined format I would count them as legitimate Aces.
ERic
JR Stengele
10-03-2008, 03:37 PM
I just don't care anymore. I am sure he is amazing but seriously!!!!
Jungle Tim
10-03-2008, 04:09 PM
ACE #301 was on a 57 foot hole - i dont think ive ever seen a hole that short
57ft - 17 meters!!! thats just 7 strides outside the putting circle!!! Surely holes this short cannot be allowed?? Pros should expect to make this. Infact I bet most people on this forum / planet have sunk many of theses, just on their 2nd or 3rd shot of a 300ft hole. At this distance aces are not impressive. Up shots are.
Why does'nt Chubby turn pro or rank up there? His putting must be HORRIBLE!! (like mine)
Rbuzz9
10-03-2008, 04:10 PM
Interesting perspective. What if you're playing in a non-sanctioned event, e.g. an Ice Bowl (http://www.icebowlhq.com/), that often sells mulligans as part of the fund raising? I'm pretty sure if you were to shank a drive, then take a mulligan and hit an Ace with it that you'd qualify for winning the Ace Pot.
If mulligans are part of the defined format I would count them as legitimate Aces.
ERic
random set of circumstances and fundraisers bend the rules in attempt to raise money.
that'd be more of a shadyfraudulent ace - it's not as legit as ur not adhering to the strict rules of DG
sidewinding
10-03-2008, 04:21 PM
"shadyfraudulent"?!?!?!?!?!
Ace Race Aces should not count as real aces but even they wouldn't be considered shadyfraudulent.
Rbuzz9
10-03-2008, 05:33 PM
sorry i didnt spellcheck professor
supposed to be a / (slash) in there
PhattD
10-03-2008, 06:24 PM
I like shadyfraudulent as the new DGCR word of the day.
If he is couting 57' holes as aces I am less impressed with his total. I'd hate to have to try and define a distance for an ace to be legitimate, but if I did it would be longer than 57'.
I think that anytime you are playing for score by the rules, no mulligans, it should count as a legitimate ace.
Riley
10-04-2008, 09:53 AM
For all those wondering why Cubby hasn't gone pro it's because he works retail and weekends are big days for retail the business. Most sanctioned tournements are on sat/sun. He did play in quite a few big tourns back in the day. Check out his blog http://cubbysdiscgolfworld.blogspot.com/
Olorin
10-04-2008, 10:44 AM
I had an ace on a 70 ft hole at the Grange Tiki (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=2763&mode=ci)course and it still felt great. Not quite as great as on a longer hole, but I still counted it in my Aces total (currently at 4 :confused:). So I say that short holes still count.
Maybe Cubby should set up his camera at the Tiki course sometime.
Donovan
10-04-2008, 02:21 PM
nothing can be more black and white - an ace is an ace - doesnt have to be a sanctioned event. Just as long as its ur first shot on that particular hole. - no mulligans
and ballgolf is way harder to hit an ace - though i would say something like a 450' ace would be as impressive as a ballgolf ace. But an ace on a 57 foot hole is more along the lines of chipping in from off the green. Still a good shot and i'd take it but you can't equate that to a ball golf hole in one.
If a guy can drive 450 in the air consistently, this would not be as impressive as a 150 yard ball golf hole in one. I would still bet on the disc golfer to hit in much fewer attempts than a ball golfer.
But that statement is much more closer to the truth regardless.
Donovan
10-04-2008, 02:33 PM
I think Cubby advertising all this stuff is good for our sport to a degree. But to be honest, as long as these are all regular rounds of play and first shot opportunities, they should count. He can be as proud as he wants. They are his aces. ;)
Like I have said before, if you are playing a course with lots of short holes, you will get more of them, if you are not..few and far between.
BTW, you would not get a ball golfer to hit a huge barrel of balls on a par 3 and finally make it once and get him to say he just got a hole in one. Alright there are some real kooks out there, so maybe you would. LOL
Rbuzz9
10-04-2008, 03:45 PM
If a guy can drive 450 in the air consistently, this would not be as impressive as a 150 yard ball golf hole in one. I would still bet on the disc golfer to hit in much fewer attempts than a ball golfer.
But that statement is much more closer to the truth regardless.
i still think no matter what it's way harder to hit a ball golf ace
Donovan
10-04-2008, 04:19 PM
i still think no matter what it's way harder to hit a ball golf ace
That's how I see it as well bro!
Disc Golf Greg
10-04-2008, 07:04 PM
Cubby is at 325 Aces as of a few days ago. His most recent was a Skip Ace I believe. Whatever you guys say I think Cubby is a beast. He strides for Aces in Disc Golf, where as most of us stride to get as few throws as possible in a round, and hope for an Ace.
Charger440
10-05-2008, 01:15 PM
I imagine if you play the same hole repeatedly you can get Aces on it atleast once. Hey if it makes him feel better go for it. But im not sure throwing at a hole until you get an ace really and truely counts as an official ace. Although I'm sure it makes him feel good, I know it would me. Keep going Cubby see if you can get 1000 Aces on them holes. If you throw at them holes long enough youll get to a 1000!!!!
Donovan
10-05-2008, 07:34 PM
Just remember this. When he is on Jay Leno talking about his 500 or whatever aces, he will be doing us a great service. He will bring disc golf to the prime time even if it is just for that 15 minutes they give him. No matter how he gets them, it is hard work. He does have to set up the camera and all of that for every throw. So be it. I may not respect the holes and who knows how many attempts per hole, but I will be glad to see him get some light on our sport when it does happen. AND it will happen.
Tolbert
10-05-2008, 07:48 PM
For what its worth I've met Cubby out on a course and ended up playing a round with him. He was out with his video camera and certainly wasn't throwing several discs a hole until he hit one. In fact he only played with 2 or 3. I love his blog and what he's doing.
Just remember this. When he is on Jay Leno talking about his 500 or whatever aces, he will be doing us a great service. He will bring disc golf to the prime time even if it is just for that 15 minutes they give him. No matter how he gets them, it is hard work. He does have to set up the camera and all of that for every throw. So be it. I may not respect the holes and who knows how many attempts per hole, but I will be glad to see him get some light on our sport when it does happen. AND it will happen.
and I can't wait to see him on Leno!
Donovan
10-05-2008, 07:55 PM
For what its worth I've met Cubby out on a course and ended up playing a round with him. He was out with his video camera and certainly wasn't throwing several discs a hole until he hit one. In fact he only played with 2 or 3. I love his blog and what he's doing.
and I can't wait to see him on Leno!
That is great to hear bro. Thanks for mentioning that. How were the holes you guys were playing? Length and all? Or for that matter what course, if I may ask?
Tolbert
10-05-2008, 08:12 PM
The course was Manalapan Rec Center (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=1514&mode=ci). The distances are listed here. About half the hole have light trees, a couple heavy trees. A lot of the videos on his blog were made there. I'm not much of a fan of the course except that because of the athletic fields it plays around its well lit at night. Cubby hooked my friend and I up with little glow sticks and tape so that we could continue playing once it got dark. He threw a skip ace on his round just before we met.
Donovan
10-05-2008, 08:17 PM
The course was Manalapan Rec Center (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=1514&mode=ci). The distances are listed here. About half the hole have light trees, a couple heavy trees. A lot of the videos on his blog were made there. I'm not much of a fan of the course except that because of the athletic fields it plays around its well lit at night. Cubby hooked my friend and I up with little glow sticks and tape so that we could continue playing once it got dark. He threw a skip ace on his round just before we met.
That is a great story bro. Thanks for sharing!
Ty9339
10-06-2008, 07:53 PM
the throw looks pretty real but the aftermath of him walking to the basket without a bag or any other discs leads me to believe that he enjoys playing by himself and plays the same hole more then once a round. but in his defense i have 3 career aces and none of them were on practice shots so to get to 300 even if they are practice or not in a round with others, its pretty amazing. some of the utube vids do look like really short holes though
Geoffro
10-06-2008, 10:16 PM
For what its worth I've met Cubby out on a course and ended up playing a round with him. He was out with his video camera and certainly wasn't throwing several discs a hole until he hit one. In fact he only played with 2 or 3. I love his blog and what he's doing.
and I can't wait to see him on Leno!
Good to hear - this clears a lot up. I look at Cubby's blog and videos, and I like it. He certainly doesn't play golf the way most of us do - lugging around a camera and playing in the rain at 2am - but to each his own. Nice job, Cubby - keep it up.
Cubby
10-08-2008, 02:42 AM
Thanks to all those Disc Golfers out there that have had positive things to say about me or what my blog and YOUTUBE videos do to promote the sport in a positive light.
For those of you that are hung up on my aces or distances of the shots or what ever else bugs you about what I do, I can't help you. My advice to you is just go out and play more Disc Golf and be content and happy with your own game and efforts to promote the sport.
BTW, Hole 9 at Rutgers although it is the shortest hole on the course. The distance is 104 feet not 57 feet like the sign says. And I challenge you to come out and Ace it. Not as easy as it seems and is seldomed Aced.
Warm regards to all. If you are ever in New Jersey get in touch with me and we will throw some rounds together.
Cubby
Geoffro
10-08-2008, 10:57 PM
Class reply, Cubby. Good to see you on the forum, and hope you stick around some.
Donovan
10-09-2008, 03:58 AM
Thanks to all those Disc Golfers out there that have had positive things to say about me or what my blog and YOUTUBE videos do to promote the sport in a positive light.
For those of you that are hung up on my aces or distances of the shots or what ever else bugs you about what I do, I can't help you. My advice to you is just go out and play more Disc Golf and be content and happy with your own game and efforts to promote the sport.
BTW, Hole 9 at Rutgers although it is the shortest hole on the course. The distance is 104 feet not 57 feet like the sign says. And I challenge you to come out and Ace it. Not as easy as it seems and is seldomed Aced.
Warm regards to all. If you are ever in New Jersey get in touch with me and we will throw some rounds together.
Cubby
Well, if you are the real deal Cubby, welcome! Can't wait to see you on Leno!
IF not, still one hell of a reply! Loved it! :D
Rbuzz9
10-09-2008, 09:21 AM
they should probably tear down that 57' sign
Good job - i still wouldnt Ace that
mzuleger
10-10-2008, 01:01 PM
I have 6 aces and 2 of them were not on my first attempt. I'll say that they don't feel as good as hitting it on your first drive but it still feels good... that said I still tell people I have 6 because hitting them is not easy regardless of what toss you're on (I normally give the disclaimer that 2 are practice tosses). I actually hit 2 of those aces on one easy hole and I'm almost less proud of those since it's an easy one even though they were on the first toss (as opposed to my 360ft ace on my 3rd toss).
My most recent ace was on an ace run where I just went back and forth between 2 bookmatched holes that were about 200-210ft. I had 2 bounce outs before one stuck but it was still fun.... practice is practice but i count it. i mean hell, it's not like there's an official "ace record book" or anything.
Technically none of my aces came in a "sanctioned" round because I have never played a tourney (yet) so by that theory none of mine would count. that's my take on it.
discflinger
10-10-2008, 05:38 PM
I am so over Cubby. A shameless self promoter. Granted he makes kids wanna ace with the footage, but enough is enough.
DirtyMittenDG
10-10-2008, 08:33 PM
Cubby! I got a question for you. Are ALL of your 300+ aces on the first attempt (1 shot per hole, per round)? Or do you set up the camera and throw your bag? Either way I respect what you do for the sport but i'm just curious?
solomon.trenton
02-27-2009, 11:26 PM
well when he gets most of his aces on a 57 foot hole it is a little ridiculous to brag about that.
disc-o maniac
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hole 9 rutgers, new jersey- 57 feet cubby has like 5,000,000 aces on that hole
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?p=37478#post37478
Tolbert
02-27-2009, 11:46 PM
to reiterate-
Thanks to all those Disc Golfers out there that have had positive things to say about me or what my blog and YOUTUBE videos do to promote the sport in a positive light.
For those of you that are hung up on my aces or distances of the shots or what ever else bugs you about what I do, I can't help you. My advice to you is just go out and play more Disc Golf and be content and happy with your own game and efforts to promote the sport.
BTW, Hole 9 at Rutgers although it is the shortest hole on the course. The distance is 104 feet not 57 feet like the sign says. And I challenge you to come out and Ace it. Not as easy as it seems and is seldomed Aced.
Warm regards to all. If you are ever in New Jersey get in touch with me and we will throw some rounds together.
Cubby
:)
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