Flash

[KnownKiller]

What is a Z Flash comparable to?

[BarkBuster]

A Champ Orc/Beast IMO.

[chrishysell]

My yellow Z Flash resembled a predator. It was overstable.

[Ace D]

sl or wraith. if it's worn in a bit, maybe a beast...

[DiscNutt123]

Orc/Beast is a good comparison, but sometimes (like Hysell said) they can be freakishly overstable.

[TheWCG]

My yellow Z Flash resembled a predator. It was overstable.

I've heard of this but haven't seen it yet. I throw an ESP flash and it's like a less stable surge or wraith. I use it for long narrow fairways or long annys in a headwind. Great disc!

[snowren24]

I have a couple esp flashes, out of the box they fly like a Pro Starfire (SL Mold), maybe slightly more flippy.

[chrishysell]

I never threw an ESP Flash. The Surge came out about the time they were releasing the Flash in ESP plastic and I moved on. No one ever asks me for Flashes. I still get requests for for Wildcats and XS's. I think the Flash was just a filler between the Wildcat and the Surge.

[discspeed]

My yellow Z Flash resembled a predator. It was overstable.

That makes you sound old(sorry, I couldn't help it;)). All kidding aside, I do know that Discraft has the ability to pump out really overstable versions of all their straightish molds, so I have no doubt that there are Predator-stable Flashes.

Anyway, a Flash's true character is to be very long and straight. If I'm honest, I've probably thrown my longest drives ever with Flashes. A Flash that flips a little is the most consistently long tailwind flyer I've ever used...It's much less hit or miss than anything faster. The downside to the Flash, as hinted to in Hysell's post, is that it can shape up out of the mold to be any stability from an Avenger SS to a Predator. Most are like a slightly faster Orc that fade a bit later and less abruptly.

[snowren24]

I never threw an ESP Flash. The Surge came out about the time they were releasing the Flash in ESP plastic and I moved on. No one ever asks me for Flashes. I still get requests for for Wildcats and XS's. I think the Flash was just a filler between the Wildcat and the Surge.

Ive tried a surge and just don't have the arm for it, It just hyzers the whole way and falls short. Ive also thrown XS's, I liked them, but just got pushed out of my bag between Teebirds and the Flash. The flash is just a good fit for me, tough as the esp gets beat up a bit, they can get too flippy, and they arent very good in the wind.

[simpletwist]

My Flash is an ESP, but it flies very similar to my Orc only shorter.

[climbingbubba]

I have owned an ESP flash and a yellow Z flash, both were 172. I would agree that the Z flash was quite a bit more overstable then the ESP. I would have compared it to a new Champ Starfire or something similar (as far as stability). The ESP is close to a Z surge SS or a proline Rogue IMO. I can use all three of those discs interchangeably for FH with little to no difference. all are about the same weight

[Burrito]

I have an ESP Flash that is about the easiest distance driver possible to throw. In a tailwind, it is a dead straight 350-400. For my noodle arm, this is ridiculous.

It also takes a hyzer flip nicely. Basically, it's like a long beat dx Teebird, but much faster.

My first 10 throws with this thing just amazed me...straight, and no fade. It just kept going straight until it touched ground.

Great disc. Easy distance. Nuff said.

[LakeBodom397]

a lot of people throw them around here and I don't know why...

[SirRaph]

So after reading this thread, (and being the Discraft fanboy that I am) I decided to grab up a used Flash just to try out.

First of all, the plastic is phenomenal. I held it in one hand while I compared it to a CE Valk and a CE Eagle and it's indistinguishable.

The one I got is light compared to what I normally throw (167g). I throw a Force about 365 or so pretty consistently. Surges up to 400 on a great snap. After throwing this Flash a dozen times or so, I maxed just under 450'. Which is an absolute bomb for me. It's effortlessly long.

I'll be getting a couple more, me thinks.