Dyeing with fishing lure dye.

[stubborn puppet]

Sorry if this topic exists already, but I couldn't find it.

I was hitting a brick wall trying to get a nice, super visible (and easy to find) hot pink or neon pink dye for my discs. I'm not currently too interested in making them look cool, just don't want to have to spend an hour looking for discs every time I play the local courses.

The recent batches of RIT dye seem to be unable to dye plastic and the Fuchsia Rit was a complete failure. So, I had remembered reading that some people had used fishing lure dye to get good bright colors and I had to try it.

Bought some Hot Pink SpikeIt brand "Dip-N-Glo" fishing lure dye. It was just over $5 for a 2oz. bottle at the local Bass-Pro Shop. Now, you have to be careful when you get it, because the normal lure dye is garlic scented. You definitely will want the Unscented variety. Sure, that strong garlic smell will help to keep the vampires from stealing you discs that fly out of sight, but you don't want your disc bag to smell like a Turkish restaurant, do you?

I gave it my first go this afternoon on a clear plastic Champion Spider.

I had no experience with it, so I just took my best shot at how to apply it. I decided on using a fine bristled, small, flat paint brush to dip in the bottle and brush it on to the disc. I went top and bottom with it, brushing from the middle towards the edge and then cleaning up the rim by lightly circling the disc with the brush.

The SpikeIt must have had acetone in it, because it almost immediately began to disolve the Innova stamp on the disc and the dye seems to dry out after a few minutes on the disc.

I kept brushing until I thought it looked just about right and let it dry out. It dried looking very streaked (from the brush) and splotchy (anywhere that it had run or been touched by my rubber gloves) and I thought it was going to be a mess. I then stuck it under some warm running water (which didn't rinse it at all) and pulled out some dish soap and a little green scrubby pad and started scrubbing off all the thick, dried up pink residue off the surface of the disc. It eventually all came off and this is what I ended up with.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/stubbornpuppet/Disc%20Golf/ChampionSpider_HotPinkSpikeIt.jpg

Damn! I played with it a few hours later. Nothing came off on my hands and it is very, very easy to see on the course. There are a few very light streaks from the brush still in there, but you have to look hard to see them. I think next time, I'm going to find a good plate to fill with the dye and then float the top of the disc on it, then fill the inside - instead of brushing.

[LoPan12]

That's pretty sweet! What other colors do they have? How much of the 2 oz bottle did you have left after you were done? Might be expensive, and reserved only for personal discs...otherwise I'd have to charge a premium for it, lol.

[stubborn puppet]

Here's a link to the colors: http://www.ispikeit.com/Store/p-150-dip-n-glo-lure-dye-unscented.aspx

I have 2/3rds of the bottle left at this point. It dries out once you spread it thin, so it's not nearly as economical as Rit.

I just realized that I did not yet test "SpikeIt's" claim that this dye is truly florescent... yup, it is!

This is under a black light:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/stubbornpuppet/Disc%20Golf/ChampionSpider_HotPinkSpikeIt_BlackLight.jpg

Of course, you can't take a great photograph in a black light, but I think this speaks for itself. REALLY BRIGHT!

[basketcase15]

thats sooooo sick

[LoPan12]

...there's white...and they claim its a dye...so....I'll take the bait (pun totally intended) and try it out, and let ya'll know what happens...

[basketcase15]

yess let us know please...........yaaaayyy its flammable too!!!!

[LoPan12]

g'damn! 10.60 to ship it...hmmmm...that makes it a lot of cash for some color....

[Frank-Flyer]

what color was that spider to begin with??

[Fishy]

I gave it my first go this afternoon on a clear plastic Champion Spider.



I might have to hit Bass Pro next time I'm near one, I think there is one in Denver, might try to find it locally. Still seems pricey, but would definetely be cool for highlights where I wouldn't need to do the whole disc.. and the garlic would just be a bonus! :D

[d-ogg]

love the way it looks under a black light!!!

[discjunky]

Looks like it works pretty good.

[LeewayeDiscGolf]

I agree with Fishy. A whole disc at that price per bottle seems a little much, but using it for highlights and such on other dyes sounds good.
If it does contain acetone already it should make highlights really easy. Just have to be careful getting it off.
I wonder if it can be mixed in with some Rit?

[yawpstang64]

Check out this shop link (http://www.fishermanswarehouse.com/shop/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=3561) for a list of colors, and only $4 a bottle.
watermelon sounds especially nice

I'd worry about mixing it with rit, but I wonder if you can effectively water it down at all, since it'd be great to reduce the evaporation rate. If it is just part acetone water should work fine, but I'd want to see the ingredients first.

[BarkBuster]

I wonder what color "June Bug" is???

[stubborn puppet]

There are NO ingredients given anywhere on the bottle or package.

The disc was originally clear.

I only used 1/3 of the bottle to paint the Spider.

I suppose you could find it at a regular bait and tackle store, I found several around my home town who carried it. They mostly were either only carrying one of the scented varieties or were out of Hot Pink at the time, but they might actually have it. You won't know until you call.

I tried it on the underneath of a Star Plastic disc that I have dyed Sunshine Orange with Rit. It took just fine, but it was really splotchy. It still glows under the black light on the star however.

I obviously need to improve the delivery method and the method for removing the dried excess when done.

Thanks for the nice comments.

[stubborn puppet]

Guess I ought to also mention that this stuff is really, really permanent and kinda messy.

Use rubber gloves ugly old clothes and a big drop cloth in an area where it's OK to have small drops of color on things. It seems to splatter at the slightest touch.

I make it sound bad, but it was actually not that big of a deal because I took precautions.

[cjskier]

I'm gonna have to try this. I've even used the stuff before! You know they have crawfish scented colors too!

[cjskier]

somebody try this stuff http://cgi.ebay.com/SPIKE-IT-GARLIC-CYBER-GLO-2-OZ-SUPER-FLEXX-SPRAY-DYE-/170461551174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b04cda46

[Skankin77]

somebody try this stuff http://cgi.ebay.com/SPIKE-IT-GARLIC-CYBER-GLO-2-OZ-SUPER-FLEXX-SPRAY-DYE-/170461551174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b04cda46

cyber glow garlic mmmmmmmmmmm :popcorn:

[Frank-Flyer]

i wonder if it would cover darker colors?? does it seem like it... probly not eh its still dye lol

[barneco]

Yeah, seems like it would be worth trying to stretch it out with additional solvent(h20, even), and let you use(and REuse) it in more of a traditional dip method. It does sound really cool if it's "paintable" right out of the container, too.

How viscous is it? Would it work for a spin dye, or is it more runny than that?

Check out this shop link (http://www.fishermanswarehouse.com/shop/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=3561) for a list of colors, and only $4 a bottle.
watermelon sounds especially nice

I'd worry about mixing it with rit, but I wonder if you can effectively water it down at all, since it'd be great to reduce the evaporation rate. If it is just part acetone water should work fine, but I'd want to see the ingredients first.

[Frank-Flyer]

i read somehwere that you use ALCOHOL to dilute it... but idk i couldnt find a good ingredients listing

[Fishy]

lol, once I get some if it's unscented I'll probably be able to tell what kind of solvent they used by the smell of the dye itself.. one of the few benefits of being a painter and working with a lot of different solvents over the years. :gross:

[Fishy]

somebody try this stuff http://cgi.ebay.com/SPIKE-IT-GARLIC-CYBER-GLO-2-OZ-SUPER-FLEXX-SPRAY-DYE-/170461551174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b04cda46

too damn easy to buy.. I got me some glow dye coming! :D Don't even care if my disc smells like garlic if it actually glows just by spraying.. I'll let everyone know if it's worth it as soon as I get it

[stubborn puppet]

THERE ARE UNSCENTED COLORS AVAILABLE! Jeesh (I think you're joking about the garlic, right?)

It is way to runny for spin dyes... in the traditional sense. I've never done one, just watched a few videos on spin techniques, but It is really thin and runs fast.

I did find, that I overlooked a sentence on the back of the package that says, "Contains acetone, keep away from heat and flame." So, that's the solvent, like I suspected when it immediately dissolved the stamp.

I don't think it will do much for dyeing darker colors, but it WILL make them glow in a black light.

[discjunky]

Maybe if you make stinky discs you could throw them farther by just trying to get away from the smell.

[Fishy]

lol.. I know whats going in the DiscPass and what my Secret santa is getting this July! :D actually if it's like every other fishing scent I've ever used the garlic wears off in a day or 2 when exposed to the air, unless they have made huge strides in scent technology? I have my doubts about if it will dye and glow for long, so I will most likely use it for it's intended use... getting even with the neighbors next time they take my parking space! :p

[discjunky]

Squirt some catfish bait in the car somewhere that is some rank s--stuff.

[hippiediscdude]

Heres a link to the manufacturers website. With color examples. The white really intrigues me. That would be pretty sweet if possible. Gonna have to get some of this to play with.
http://www.ispikeit.com/Store/p-150-dip-n-glo-lure-dye-unscented.aspx

[LeewayeDiscGolf]

The scented might make disc theives think twice.

[stubborn puppet]

I experimented with the SpikeIt dye on a white DX disc last night.

As with Rit, it was a failure. The dye just smeared around on the plastic, eventually dried up and, when I went to scrub the dried residue off (like I did with the pink Champ Spider), the disc was still white with only a couple of spots that had a very faint tint.

Oh well, I guess there just isn't any hope for DX. I think it must have something to do with the "waxiness" of the plastic.

[Fishy]

The scented might make disc theives think twice.

ok so I got the glow in the dark stuff from the previous post. opened the cap and damned near choked! Serious garlic smell :gross: it's not gonna stop me but I i am going to use it on something I don't care about that I can leave outside until the smell goes away. :sick:

[UnitedPuppySlayer]

I use spike it when fishing all the time, bad choice on putting it on a disc tho...

[stubborn puppet]

Oh my god, I thought you were kidding about using the Garlic scented. WHY?

Again, for everyone else, THIS COMES IN UNSCENTED.

It works really well, especially on the Champion Innova plastic, even though it takes off the stamps. Look at the first page of this topic for an example of results. I also have seen another guys work, on these forums, where he uses the SpikeIt for colors on his artistic disc dyeing (where as my dyeing is just for visibility). I can't remember which topic, but his disc had a brightly colored bird on it.

[Chiefstang]

Could someone repost the pics in a different format? I can't see them on my work computer...:(

[Fishy]

Oh my god, I thought you were kidding about using the Garlic scented. WHY?

Again, for everyone else, THIS COMES IN UNSCENTED.



:p because I seriously doubt the glow will stay and I'll use it for fishing.. besides if it does work, I got friends who want some.. as potent as that **** is no way you can lose a disc if one is sprayed. :D and no way is someone gonna keep one of their discs if it reeks of garlic

[stubborn puppet]

The most recent dye with the Hot Pink SpikeIt dye.
It's on a Champion SL (kinda rare)
I used the normal vinyl to try to mask off the Innova Protostar design but the acetone in the SpikeIt must be pretty strong because the vinyl peeled right off and became the consistency of a rubber ballo0n.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/stubbornpuppet/Disc%20Golf/ChampionSL_HotPinkSpikeIt.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/stubbornpuppet/Disc%20Golf/ChampionSL_HotPinkSpikeIt_BlackLight.jpg

[MOON]

The most recent dye with the Hot Pink SpikeIt dye.
It's on a Champion SL (kinda rare)
I used the normal vinyl to try to mask off the Innova Protostar design but the acetone in the SpikeIt must be pretty strong because the vinyl peeled right off and became the consistency of a rubber ballo0n.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/stubbornpuppet/Disc%20Golf/ChampionSL_HotPinkSpikeIt.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/stubbornpuppet/Disc%20Golf/ChampionSL_HotPinkSpikeIt_BlackLight.jpg

Can you dye black rit on top of this ? Or is there to much acetone in it to hold vinyl now? Because if you could use this pink as a background color that would be cool.

[biscoe]

hysell and i experimented with this stuff probably 15 years ago... works great, scented colors smell awful as previously noted. definitely acetone based.

back in the day we had heard that j-bird (godfather of dying discs) was using dye meant for eyeglass frames.

[stubborn puppet]

I haven't actually tried to dye it with RIT following the process. I thought about working up something to dye on the first one I did, but I couldn't fine any black or dark blue RIT in town that didn't have the 11 at the end of the serial number.

The vinyl seems to stick to it just fine still and the surface feels exactly as it did before I started. Can't think of any reason you couldn't do a design and other colors on top of it.

This time (the disc above) I decided to brush instead of float. The last time, the normal, small paint brush worked OK, but seemed to leave a hint of brush strokes. This time I used one of the small edger brushes like this:
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHcflHBO17oCxHRTS8ToAOKIkCdOjRl vmFetVg6v25eEwTYiAO7A

That was just about perfect and I ended up using less of the dye than before. Came out very smooth and even.:)

[Ricta]

The most recent dye with the Hot Pink SpikeIt dye.
It's on a Champion SL (kinda rare)
I used the normal vinyl to try to mask off the Innova Protostar design but the acetone in the SpikeIt must be pretty strong because the vinyl peeled right off and became the consistency of a rubber ballo0n.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/stubbornpuppet/Disc%20Golf/ChampionSL_HotPinkSpikeIt.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/stubbornpuppet/Disc%20Golf/ChampionSL_HotPinkSpikeIt_BlackLight.jpg

Was this clear before dyeing? I have a dark blue-green teebird that is hard to find if I drop it in the grass 10ft from my face! :wall:

[stubborn puppet]

Aye, she was a milky white/clear to begin with.

[yearofrolling]

This feels relevant to all the brainwave chatter going on right now.
This stuff is very bright and it will melt off vinyl masking plastic.
http://www.ispikeit.com/Store/p-142-dye-a-live-unscented.aspx
The Chartreuse is super bright on Star plastic.

[JAKE master]

you are the man, been looking for a way to do white for while, this may be it

[Grungedude42]

The dyes look interesting, but tell memore about that UV glow aerosol and the glow dye they have at the bottom of the page. :o

[biscoe]

hysell and i messed around with the worm dyes probably 15 years ago- worked great. as the OP said- don't get the scented ones!!!

[Bwfearns]

somewhere there has to be a msds sheet on this which should tell you what kind of dye it is so you may not have to buy the re-branded scented version of whatever solvent, pigment, or dye this is

[Darkgreen]

I've been thinking of using this product to dye some clear uncolored x-outs so they are easier to see.
A couple of questions.

Has anyone experienced any rub off on to other discs?

Does anyone have some picture examples of discs dyed in the various colors available?

[VelocityDiscs]

With almost any dye there is the chance of dye transfer to another disc, especially if they are put in your bag dome to dome in warmer climates.

if you put you discs in the same direction however you wont have that issue.

I can confirm the hot pink looks like the color displayed in one of the above posts. This is actually a fantastic color, and takes extremely fast. i was able to use a paint brush and sign my name on a test disc and wipe off the excess 20 seconds later with true color.

i also tryed the bright green color and found it slightly duller and much closer to hex color

33CC00

just google that and you will see what i mean.

[AngryChainsDG]

I just float them and let the bottoms stay natural.

[chrishysell]

I've been thinking of using this product to dye some clear uncolored x-outs so they are easier to see.
A couple of questions.

Has anyone experienced any rub off on to other discs?

Does anyone have some picture examples of discs dyed in the various colors available?

even my latest brainwave dyes fromJeff have rubbed off. The Zone he uses as his Facebook pic is mine. It has faded a lot since he took the pic. I guess all dye eventually fades away.

[GRidge]

Cabelas just opened in Columbus and I was gonna buy some spike it, should I paint it on? How long should I let it sit?

[cjskier]

I can confirm the hot pink looks like the color displayed in one of the above posts. This is actually a fantastic color, and takes extremely fast. i was able to use a paint brush and sign my name on a test disc and wipe off the excess 20 seconds later with true color.


How did you sign with the dye?

[sgamerp]

wait did the white dye work?>