anyone use 150 weight discs?

[compn]

i played with 150's for 4-5 years and was able to out throw my buddies and control it fairly well. wind was no problem. all forehand throws to the left which would eventually flip to the right.

now a pro got me hooked on a 175 discraft pulse, which i can get a few extra feet with. forehand throw to the right which flips to the left, or a nice right arc if i spin it hard enough.

is there anyone else that can handle a 150 for drives? or is it as useful as a paper plate?

never got into tomahawk or backhand throws with it. always seemed to float on the wind longer than heavier discs. it was also pretty useful for rolling, out rolling my throws by 50+ ft on multiple occasions.

[compn]

er, that should be backhand. damn throw names confuse me :)

[gcoghill]

I just picked up a 150g Discraft Impact this summer, and I am starting to really like it. I throw backhand, and also look for straight-shooter discs for the most part. I don't think I have the arm to get the proper spin on the pro/extra-long range drivers to keep them flying the way I want them.

The Impact has added a good 20-30 feet of float on the end of my drives. That said, I also picked up a 165g Discraft Stratus, and I have been getting some good distance on that thing as well.

Up until this summer I was driving with my 170g Discraft Comet, which did me well until I snagged the Impact. Comet now relegated to approach/mid-range as it was designed for. The Comet is still a great disc.

[Marv Vega]

Most of my drivers are 150 class. It's the weight that I started on and just prefer them in general to heavier discs, plus they fly farther in theory. I do have a tendency if I'm not careful to turnover slower and stable-understable discs and have them not come back, that's the flip-side of throwing lite plastic I guess.

[Three Putt]

I use lighter drivers. Every driver in my bag is under 170g, and a few are 150 or less. Lighter drivers are easier for me to control, so my placement is better. They also go into their turn a bit later than heavier discs, making them fly a little further. The lighter discs are easier to flip, which is good when you need them to flip and not so good when you are throwing into a headwind. When it gets really windy they are basically useless. So they have their up sides and down sides.

[sfeather]

I have some 150 ROCs. Great for beginners. I find them great for short chips.

[justin]

I recently picked up a 150 DX Leopard for rolling. I can throw it low with a bit of hyzer and watch it flatten out and then land on the other edge for a nice long roller.

[humchris85]

I love my 150 weights

[Asvetic]

I recently picked up a 150 DX Leopard for rolling. I can throw it low with a bit of hyzer and watch it flatten out and then land on the other edge for a nice long roller.

I've never been a fan of intentional rollers... it always feels like cheating to me. I can understand the need for them, say there's heavy tree coverage. However, I've seen guys throw them on every hole and that just doesn't seem right.

[discwombat]

Just ordered a 150 dragon and hope it lives up to the hype.
Scott

[coolkid32901]

I've never been a fan of intentional rollers... it always feels like cheating to me. I can understand the need for them, say there's heavy tree coverage. However, I've seen guys throw them on every hole and that just doesn't seem right.

ROLLERS SUCK!

i feel the same way dude. I think that it is cheating as well. If you aren't strong enough to throw a backhand or a forehand than don't play this sport. It should only be used when it is needed. I completely agree....

[petecarp]

ROLLERS SUCK!


im glad someone said it. im proud to say ive never intentionally thrown a "roller" on a disc golf course. what makes this sport so enjoyable for me is watching a forehand with a perfect S-curve speed through a fairway cut into the trees, or a backhand that you know came out just right slice through the air and land 10 feet from the basket in about 5-10 seconds. the excitement of the sport dwindles dramatically when watching a disc roll on the ground skip over a root, nearly miss a stump, skip over another root, pick up "speed" as it rolls down a hill, then circles around itself a few times before coming to a stop, in all of say 10-20 seconds. i dont want to insult anyone that is a "roller" out there, and by all means if thats how you want to play go out and have a blast (or a roll) but these disc companies dont put all the effort into creating the most advanced flying plastic discs they can, only to have it rolled down the fairway. i dont think anyone out there will disagree that the flight of a thrown disc is a thing of beauty compared to the route(?) of a rolled disc.

oh and you cant ace a hole with a roll.

one last question, do any of you rollers throw bowling balls at the pins?

[garublador]

but these disc companies dont put all the effort into creating the most advanced flying plastic discs they can, only to have it rolled down the fairway. Well, except for the Roadrunner, but what does Dave Dunipace know about disc golf anyway? ;) Most of the time I've seen the disc designers happy when one of their discs turns out to be a good roller. They all know the importance of that type of shot.

[petecarp]

garublador-1
me-0
i spoke out of emotion, but i still stand by my view that discs are meant to fly not roll.

[radsnowsurfer]

Anyone who says that rollers suck has clearly not seen them well executed by experienced players. I think the concept that they are cheating the game is ridiculous, if you can figure out both how to throw them well and consistently and if you can find good routes on courses, good for you, use that tool. In response to coolkid's comment about people who can't throw backhand or forehand because they don't have enough power, you Clearly haven't seen good roller players, some of the longest throws in disc golf come on rollers, many players who can throw 400 can roll discs 550' or 600' rollers with optimal conditions. Now, I will say, I don't throw rollers, I simply have respect for those who throw them well, they're much more than luck, when you can birdie a hole 100' out of your air driving range, that's pure skill.



Oh and on the topic of the thread, I've loved my switch to lighter drivers, they're easier to throw and I've gained some distance without losing and power. I throw 162-164 X avengers for most of my distance drives.

[nexanimal]

<< snip >> Just ordered a 150 dragon and hope it lives up to the hype.

I bought a 150 Dragon about a month ago, after all of the chatter over floating discs. I love it! I'm not strong enough to throw some of the longer, highly overstable drivers well. The Dragon is a little overstable, and I find that it's lengthened my drives 20-30' over the Roc that I was using. I think you'll enjoy tossing the Dragon.

[JConnell]

To you guys saying rollers suck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfaEXqkJoQE

Ken Climo is a cheater by your definition...unbelievable. Although I don't throw rollers personally, I have nothing but respect for those that do and more power to them.

[Three Putt]

Rollers Rock! I throw them all the time, on purpose. If you are a weenie-arm and see a nice, slightly downhill, freshly mowed fairway and you don't pull out some driver you beat like a red-headed step-child and make like Proud Mary, put on some lipstick and call yourself Brittney because you are just giving it away like a high school girl on Prom Night. I don't care what Steady Ed expected me to do when he came up with the game, the damn things roll better than Zig-Zags and I'm gonna roll 'em!

Seriously, I watched a guy throw a roller that had so much spin that when it hit a tree in the fairway it zipped 10 feet up the trunk of the tree before it fell down. When it hit the ground it was still spinning and went back up the tree a few feet before it finally lost steam. Awesome stuff. I was at an event one time where the final nine was a bunch of monster safari holes, and some really good pros like Ron Russell, "Crazy" John Brooks and George Smith just threw amazing roller after roller. It was one of the most entertaining rounds I ever saw.

Entertaining enough that I went home and learned to throw rollers! :D

In Columbia, MO they have a "Roller Doubles" event every year. I forget the exact rules, I think it is mando rollers off the tee. Anyway, they have had that event for years in celebration of the roller!

[sfeather]

I've never been a fan of intentional rollers... it always feels like cheating to me. I can understand the need for them, say there's heavy tree coverage. However, I've seen guys throw them on every hole and that just doesn't seem right.

Man, I was stuck in a thicket this morning, behind a tree. Threw a beautiful toss to get out, perfect arc. The wolf landed on edge and took off, rolling straight to the basket...and then past it...picked up speed...75' past the basket!

Arg, rollers.

[ERicJ]

If you are a weenie-arm and see a nice, slightly downhill, freshly mowed fairway and you don't pull out some driver you beat like a red-headed step-child and make like Proud Mary, put on some lipstick and call yourself Brittney because you are just giving it away like a high school girl on Prom Night. I don't care what Steady Ed expected me to do when he came up with the game, the damn things roll better than Zig-Zags and I'm gonna roll 'em!
ROFL... :D By chance, in your spare time to do you play Dr. Cox on "Scrubs" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285403/) ??

[High Flyer]

My Viper 150 is one of my favorites for back hand throws under 200 feet with a little curve.

[Asvetic]

I might have misspoke, and I have no ill respect for the rollers... I'm just not a huge fan. I love watching my disc tear throw the air and floating up and down and then gliding to a beautiful landing. However, if I'm in a spot that I can't toss, I'm not ashamed to roll, it's just not my first choice for a solution.

Course after hearing these arguments for rollers, I might start incorporating it into my game play more.

[Donovan]

I do use an Innova Dragon fairly regularly. It is my floater, but I also drive with it when the wind is at my back. Since it is beat up pretty good, I can pretty much get to turn left and right both from a back hand throw. So I like it very much.

[Donovan]

Since this thread has to themes...moving the Rollers discussion to: here (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3909#post3909)

[Doktor John]

My favorite driver is my 150 Champion Leopard...but I am incorporating a few techniques I learned at a driving clinic and find that I'm overspinning it more now because I am getting more velocity and power in my release...it works great for those anhyzer situations

[Marv Vega]

My favorite driver is my 150 Champion Leopard...but I am incorporating a few techniques I learned at a driving clinic and find that I'm overspinning it more now because I am getting more velocity and power in my release...it works great for those anhyzer situations

I just picked up a 150 Champ Leopard last month, I really like it. It predictably finishes a little right for me if thrown flat and goes very far and straight with a nice s turn if thrown with a little hyzer.

[marcusriewer]

I have a 150 Dragon and a 147 Leopard. I use the Dragon on any hole where there is potential of losing it in the water. (I hate losing discs!) I use the Leopard on shorter par threes where the hole is fairly strait with nothing in the way. Love em' both!

[mike_riewer]

I have a hard time s-ing my 150 gram disc, yet it still flies a long ways. If I try to throw it sidearm, it is as useful as a paper plate. I am a begginer to the light wieght, but I am growing very fond of it.

[disc-o maniac]

i have a 150 stingray but when i throw it, it goes nowhere so i use it as my roller disc since innova rates its turn as -5

[PhattD]

I picked up a dragon fo our water hole (#6 Grand Woods Lansing, MI). Unforyunately it is too over stable to be useful on that hole for me. I also have a 150 Surge and a 164 Wildcat and I'm a big fan of both.

[ERicJ]

I picked up a dragon fo our water hole (#6 Grand Woods Lansing, MI). Unforyunately it is too over stable to be useful on that hole for me. You think a Dragon is too OVER stable?? http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/index.html

[tomjulio]

150? Hell, I have an Ultralight 127 in my bag! I just have to be careful of anyone playing near me sneezing and totally messing up my drive.

[discinator]

I cut my disc golf teeth on a 150 dx valkarie. I lost it in a lake, but man was that disc sweet. I may just have to go get another one. The 150's are great downwind discs.

[martinb]

I cut my disc golf teeth on a 150 dx valkarie. I lost it in a lake, but man was that disc sweet. I may just have to go get another one. The 150's are great downwind discs.

thats the key right there, throwing with the wind only! ;) any kind of headwind or cross/head wind, and your 150 class disc is uncontrollable. i throw a 150 wraith and destroyer, and my arm thanks me all the time for using lighter plastic. :o:D

[Markgs22]

Possibly my favorite driver is a Champion 150 Sidewinder. I toss it backhand and it's one of the straighter drivers I've thrown, and then eventually it turns over. Overall gets nice distance and is reliable for a long straight shot. In my opinion a 150 is nice to have because it can feel light as a feather and, as an added bonus, it skips off trees like nobody's business. I have a 165 roadrunner and 175 wraith, and it definitely holds its own. Highly recommended.

[cloudstrife]

hell yea, i do. Got a 150 beast and now thanks to Eric J a 150 dragon. Still loving the disc thanks a lot man. Saw a 150 champion tee-bird at the second hand disc shop and was wishing i had a 5 on me to pick it up.

[PhattD]

You think a Dragon is too OVER stable?? http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/index.html

I can flip a 170 gr Champ valkyrie and I can't get a dragon to stay right for me. Maybe I'm throwing different when I grab the Dragon I don't know.

[Marv Vega]

I can flip a 170 gr Champ valkyrie and I can't get a dragon to stay right for me. Maybe I'm throwing different when I grab the Dragon I don't know.

That is odd, maybe it's just that disc. My Dragon goes nice and straight, turns over if I put enough on it. Kind of reminds me of a floating Valkyrie, maybe a little slower.

[ERicJ]

hell yea, i do. Got a 150 beast and now thanks to Eric J a 150 dragon. Still loving the disc thanks a lot man.
Glad it's working for ya. You were right about that Wasp... really overstable. So overstable that it's resting at the bottom of the lake at FCAC (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=1264) after a not so hot throw. :o

ERic

[swarren1977]

I have a 145 Roc that I use for finesse shots. It’s great for approach shots in which you have to work the disc in and around a few trees.

[33tango]

I've never been a fan of intentional rollers... it always feels like cheating to me. I can understand the need for them, say there's heavy tree coverage. However, I've seen guys throw them on every hole and that just doesn't seem right.

True, but they are taking the risk the disc will strike something and go awry, aren't they?

[Jimb]

150 JK Valkyrie... love it. Added considerable length to vs. my 175ish Vals. But definitely with the wind or with no wind as has been said before.

And so what if I have a girl's name on my disc? :D

[Midnightbiker]

I just started throwing a 150 LS Polaris for tunnel and narrow fairways. It works great.

[taxman]

i have a 150 wraith. i use it quite a bit as my main driver when the wind speed is low.

[discflinger]

I have some stuff in the low 160s that I like really well, but 150 just seems uncontrolable.

[brian j]

i have a 150g gazalle that now that its starting to show some wear flips easily.

[Aaron D'Angelo]

I still use my 152 Shark DX and 150 Aviar P&A in DX, couldn't control a 150 driver anymore though.. guess I was trying to throw to hard and people told me to get a higher wt.

[DiscChainBasket18]

I got a 150gm (148.7 actually) DX sidewinder free with my $5.00 USDGC ticket. This disc flies sweet! I have to put a hyzer-release on it & not throw too hard & the thing will do a nice long 'S' turn. In a cross wind it 'air-bounced' a bunch but still ended up making it all the way straight to the target. Killer disc. Here's a picture of one with a bunch of writing all over it.http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk270/jdubent08/08%20USDGC%20Rock%20Hill%20SC/08USDGCdisc_top.jpg too bad!

[DiscChainBasket18]

ROLLERS SUCK!


im glad someone said it. im proud to say ive never intentionally thrown a "roller" on a disc golf course. what makes this sport so enjoyable for me is watching a forehand with a perfect S-curve speed through a fairway cut into the trees, or a backhand that you know came out just right slice through the air and land 10 feet from the basket in about 5-10 seconds. the excitement of the sport dwindles dramatically when watching a disc roll on the ground skip over a root, nearly miss a stump, skip over another root, pick up "speed" as it rolls down a hill, then circles around itself a few times before coming to a stop, in all of say 10-20 seconds. i dont want to insult anyone that is a "roller" out there, and by all means if thats how you want to play go out and have a blast (or a roll) but these disc companies dont put all the effort into creating the most advanced flying plastic discs they can, only to have it rolled down the fairway. i dont think anyone out there will disagree that the flight of a thrown disc is a thing of beauty compared to the route(?) of a rolled disc.

oh and you cant ace a hole with a roll.

one last question, do any of you rollers throw bowling balls at the pins?
You could get a roller-skip ace!!
Check out this roller & tell me it's not impressive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZJIVb0RhMI
Respect the roller!

[JR Stengele]

I have a 156 teebird that I use for uphill shots or huge downhill shot that works quite well since it is overstable. Anything understable I just turn over quickly.

[valkyriefb11]

You could get a roller-skip ace!!
Check out this roller & tell me it's not impressive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZJIVb0RhMI
Respect the roller!

Thats pretty awesome. The closest I ever came to an ace was an accidental roller that skipped up and hit the basket underneath. I don't usually throw rollers, but they do have a place and a use in DG.

[solomon.trenton]

I drive with a 150G Innova Destroyer DX

[thenamesben]

I have a 147 Classic Aviar for sweet anny upshots.

[YonderScott]

I have a 150 dx beast that goes hard left for my sidearm shot. I also have a 150g champ Sidewinder that is my everything disc. It is straight and narrow, it's great out of the rough when thrown overhand.....I would be lost without that disc. And I just got a 150 valk I can't wait to throw...

[borndasaur]

My favorite "get-out-of-trouble" disc is a 148 champion banshee. First learning discs were an archangel and a valkyrie, both 150's. Only roller is a 150 stingray.

[innova]

Many of the Japanese players at Worlds that I met (at past events) all used 150 class discs.

I cannot. Too much arm speed... I guess? they all roll.

To "throw with a slower arm speed" is not really all that successful for me.
I just club down and throw a roc.

[Jimb]

Many of the Japanese players at Worlds that I met (at past events) all used 150 class discs.

I cannot. Too much arm speed... I guess? they all roll.

To "throw with a slower arm speed" is not really all that successful for me.
I just club down and throw a roc.


I believe that at the Japan Open (and possibly other Japanes tournaments) you are only allowed to play with 150 class discs. So maybe most of the Japanese players use 150 class discs all of the time.

[JR Stengele]

I could see the use for overstable light weight discs so that it is easier to overpower, making it easier to throw at first. Any understable discs that light tend to quickly flip on me with very little effort. I want to get my hands on something overstable....Anyone have thoughts as to what? From Innova VS. Discraft?

[Jimb]

I could see the use for overstable light weight discs so that it is easier to overpower, making it easier to throw at first. Any understable discs that light tend to quickly flip on me with very little effort. I want to get my hands on something overstable....Anyone have thoughts as to what? From Innova VS. Discraft?

Maybe a Star FL if you can get your hands on one. I have one and it really taught me what overstable was all about. Innova recommends it as a first overstable disc and so do I.

http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/starfl.html

[innova]

i'd like to throw a 150 champion boss...

genuine curiousity.

[discinator]

I want to get my hands on something overstable....Anyone have thoughts as to what? From Innova VS. Discraft?

discraft has a 150 flick

[bdamcat]

discraft has a 150 flick

I just received a 150 flick today and from the four or five times that I throwed it today I love it. I bought it originally for a tomahawk disc but I may have other plans for it now. Plus I was throwing it as far as my wraith, orc, and boss. So either the disc is excellent or my other drivers are too heavy?

[sidewinder22]

I also just got a 150 Elite Z Flick today and love it! This is the first 150 disc I can sidearm 300ft! I suppose the 150 Banshee would also be good, but its only in dx. I may have to get another 150 Flick in ESP. There doesnt seem to be many overstable discs in 150 class for some reason. I also have a 174 Flick and its the most overstable disc I own, but I think I've finally got it broken in or used to it and like it.

[gusc2375]

My wife has all of her disc except her putter in 150 class. I have thrown them all several times. her star wraith I have had the most consistancy with. Until today when I threw Bdamcat's flick it was so smooth and controlable I will be getting myself one soon.