Design A Hole

[SmoothSailor]

I am doing some work in the woods at Churchill Park in Liberty OH and every time I have people with me I always look for input. So now that I'm home and can't stop thinking about this place, I figured I would see what you guys would come up with.

I am posting four pictures:

Picture 1 - Blank Picture of the area available for use.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6225/6284656037_87173f2967.jpg

Picture 2 - Picture with the layout I first laid out when I got the green light.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6064/6097863354_ba1097184b.jpg

Picture 3 - Picture with the creeks and public areas defined.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6056/6285163476_7a60fdf5fe.jpg

Picture 4 - Holes that are already carved out or under construction. (scattered I know)
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6048/6284657145_cff3d33c27.jpg

I would like to see what you guys think of the layout I put out and then see what you can come up with for one or more holes.

I am also including the latitude/longitude so you can look it up and zoom in if needed. 41.159327,-80.670547

[DirtyMittenDG]

That's cool. It's hard to tell what would would from an aerial map with woods that thick, but it looks like you'd at least have enough room.

I noticed theres a power line field that runs through the middle of the park. How exactly did you put those into play?

[Violets caddy]

Assuming the blue lines are the creeks, in picture 3 towards the bottom left corner where the creeks T. Make the pad behind the T and run a long anhyzer along the creek going towards the right the curving down. Having a creek run the length of the fairway is a great way to put water into play the entire hole and, unless its a really deep creek, keeps the lost disc factor down.

[DirtyMittenDG]

That's cool. It's hard to tell what would work* from an aerial map with woods that thick, but it looks like you'd at least have enough room.

I noticed theres a power line field that runs through the middle of the park. How exactly did you put those into play?

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[SmoothSailor]

I noticed theres a power line field that runs through the middle of the park. How exactly did you put those into play?

In the original layout I made up, I didn't. But, after the dozens of walkthroughs I've done, there will be a long bomber down the middle of it :)

[Steve West]

On the original layout, what's to stop players from taking the easy route over the other-users area on 2 or parking lot on 8?

[Martin Dewgarita]

On the original layout, what's to stop players from taking the easy route over the other-users area on 2 or parking lot on 8?

That was my first thought too, must be some big mandos in there...

[Dave242]

In picture 2 for the holes in the top middle they are very packed in there. Looks like you have only the distance of 4-6 parking spaces between them.

[SmoothSailor]

On the original layout, what's to stop players from taking the easy route over the other-users area on 2 or parking lot on 8?
Walls of tree bush vine things lol.

In picture 2 for the holes in the top middle they are very packed in there. Looks like you have only the distance of 4-6 parking spaces between them.
Like I said it was the first "hey I'm stoked to be doing this" draft. I'll post something better later.

[Dave242]

What level of player are you aiming this course at? What length of throws are you centering the hole lengths around? What are the typical widths (at pinch points) of the woods holes going to be?

This looks like some cool land - I am assuming it is moderately hilly (but it is hard to tell for sure). It does however look pretty cramped with all the houses and businesses surrounding a lot of the park. Buffer zones from them and from other park activities will cut dramatically into the usable space.

BTW, if you do not already know this Google maps has a very handy measuring tool built in (in Labs) and Bing Maps has excellent "bird's eye" aerial views where you can scope everything out from 4 directions/perspectives (thanks for providing the coordinates!)

[nadufour]

I dont if it has been suggested yet, but a hole on a cemetery would be pretty cool for a halloween tournament.

[Dave242]

Not for the families of anyone buried there.

[E_Rock25]

Would like some more info about the type of course you are trying to build. The land looks really nice of a course. Are you looking for a tounament quallity? Mulity use I.E. multiple pins and pads for all skill levels? I am working on a lay out but more info would help.

[E_Rock25]

Here is what I got for a start. It would be great if you would return the favor and do one for me... look in my sig for the link
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd455/E_Rock26/Somerset%20Hole%20Signs/ChurchillParkinLibertyOHDGC.jpg

[SmoothSailor]

I dont if it has been suggested yet, but a hole on a cemetery would be pretty cool for a halloween tournament.
The township administration would frown upon that and probably make us leave to be honest with you.

Would like some more info about the type of course you are trying to build. The land looks really nice of a course. Are you looking for a tounament quallity? Mulity use I.E. multiple pins and pads for all skill levels? I am working on a lay out but more info would help.
I am looking to make this beginner and advanced friendly. To start there will only be one pad and one pin per hole and the holes will be mixed between beginner and advanced friendly. Eventually the plan is multiple pads and multiple pins on every hole.

Here is what I got for a start. It would be great if you would return the favor and do one for me... look in my sig for the link
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd455/E_Rock26/Somerset%20Hole%20Signs/ChurchillParkinLibertyOHDGC.jpg
The only problem is the area you are looking at for the green on hole 6 will have to be pulled back 60-80ft. That area isn't a pond, it's a marsh area with thick sawgrass. Granted we could trim it down and fill some of it in, but there is plenty of land otherwise to put holes on, so I'm not too worried about that spot.

I will definitely get you back with your thread, give me a few minutes to catch up on what I missed while I was at work. :)

What level of player are you aiming this course at? What length of throws are you centering the hole lengths around? What are the typical widths (at pinch points) of the woods holes going to be?

This looks like some cool land - I am assuming it is moderately hilly (but it is hard to tell for sure). It does however look pretty cramped with all the houses and businesses surrounding a lot of the park. Buffer zones from them and from other park activities will cut dramatically into the usable space.

BTW, if you do not already know this Google maps has a very handy measuring tool built in (in Labs) and Bing Maps has excellent "bird's eye" aerial views where you can scope everything out from 4 directions/perspectives (thanks for providing the coordinates!)
starting from the beginning...

Aiming this course to introduce new players, while keeping advanced players interested and wanting to keep coming back.
Looking to have the holes between 250-325 average with some longer and some shorter in there.
So far this is a tight course with the finished wooded holes having gaps anywhere from 15-35 feet wide. There are two so far that have fairways 35ft wide all the way down.

The land is definitely cool. There is a mix of all kinds of elevation change, openings in the woods, some open holes, tight holes.
Even with the houses and businesses around, you don't really notice them except on maybe 5 holes out of the whole course. The hills and dense undergrowth give us good camo. :)
The public use areas of the park are also like this. There will be two baskets in the public areas, but they are short holes that even a n00b won't want to bomb.