Miles of OB- How to???

[Fuzz]

Okay, maybe not miles but certainly close to or a little more than a miles worth.

Wanting to hear some thoughts on marking huge amounts of OB on a limited budget.

Any thoughts?

[bwiese]

What are the circumstances? Is this for a permanent course, temp course, private, public? Is the Ob just for a tourney. If you explain what is going on people will be able to give a more informed opinion on the topic.

[bholy08]

Permanent or temporary

[Fuzz]

Sorry, temp layout....just for a few days

[MikePinchico]

http://www.residential-landscape-lighting-design.com/store/images/ropelight_yellow.jpg

[bholy08]

Silly string?

[Fuzz]

I said limited budget...have you ever priced rope?...lol

I know its a greta way to do it, but the rope itself is costly not too mention the huge cost in stakes to string it through.

[Mongo97]

"Hey you, here's a buck. Tell people that's OB over there."

[Fuzz]

I thought of diluting paint with water about half and hlaf and spraying it through a pump sprayer then setting flags for better visibility form a distance.

has anyone tried that? Seems like a cost effective way to do it assuming it works.

[bwiese]

paint would probably work as long as it stays dry. Any time it rains the lines on the football field more dull. If you dilute the paint it would be less effective if you did get rain.

[E_Rock25]

I thought of diluting paint with water about half and hlaf and spraying it through a pump sprayer then setting flags for better visibility form a distance.

has anyone tried that? Seems like a cost effective way to do it assuming it works.

this would work great I think. If you map the holes with OB and give it to people at the players meating that will help too.

[MikePinchico]

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4712195/yellow_yarn_on_a_spool_u12562415.jpg

[esdubya]

^^^We have used string with small wood stakes. It's pretty cheap. Not as pretty as the yellow rope but it works.

[Okie-J]

http://www.gemplers.com/shop/marking-flags?src=25GLHRT&mkwid=swNs6d14Y&pcrid=6039063745

[Fuzz]

E-Rock, i'm already working on a course rules/description sheet and i am going to have a very brief description for each hole on the back of the scorecards also.

Thanks for the link OKIE. The big box stores sell them for the same price

[grodney]

OB lines are SO overdone. Just put out some stakes. Or flags. Or straws. Players need to be able to draw a line with their mind between two stakes. If they can't do that, they shouldn't be playing.

[Fuzz]

They may be overdone, but this is an outdated course on a small piece of land. We want to do something to make it a bit more special and up to date which will require forcing some lines to keep other fairways safe etc.

No TD wants to deal with 100 people coming over and asking to verify if in fact something was over an imaginary line, so we'll be providing a line for them.

[curveball4]

We've used flags to mark temp OB, always works fine. Just put them close enough together to easily see in or out

[joshmo65]

OB lines are SO overdone. Just put out some stakes. Or flags. Or straws. Players need to be able to draw a line with their mind between two stakes. If they can't do that, they shouldn't be playing.

Waaaaa? So is this disc in bounds or out of bounds assuming the upper left of the marks is OB?

http://i42.tinypic.com/jp9dae.jpg

[Fuzz]

We have decided that we want to have a visible line for all the OB. I was just hoping to come on here and see if anyone had some cheap ways of doing it that I haven't thought of.

Found 6500ft of tie-down twine at HD for $35. If I can't get paint to work effeciently out of a pump sprayer then I may tie that to flags. Either way we are using a ton of flags, we just want a line connecting them.

[DavidSauls]

^^^We have used string with small wood stakes. It's pretty cheap. Not as pretty as the yellow rope but it works.

We use string, anchored by large nails, and in places it's not otherwise apparent, landscape flags. Inexpensive, simple, definitive.....a little time-consuming. We do it fresh for tournaments but, as a private course, it lasts for many months.

We've gone to wooden stakes in some of the more permanent locations.

(Some places we're just defining an already-obvious O.B., like the edge of a gravel road, so don't use the flags or stakes).

[Fuzz]

Hmmm... large nails. I am gonna check some pricing on that. Thanks

[pchitti]

flags will prob be cheaper than the nails and add the higher visibility your wanting.

[AdamH]

String and nails are probably a little cheaper, but spray paint is considerably easier and pretty fast too.

For marking large amounts of OB we use a spray paint marking wand (http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?keyword=Spray+Paint+Marking+Wand&selectedCatgry=SEARCH+ALL&langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053&Ntpc=1&Ntpr=1). It has a wheel so it rolls easily across the ground and make a consistent line width. It's only $20 and is a huge help when marking long, straight lines. We then put flags in the OB line to make it easily visible.

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/1e/1edf8ad7-6603-49d4-bc60-0fadd78776f5_300.jpg

[Fuzz]

Yeah i checked some prices on nails and they are a little pricey. hard to beat 100 flags for $8. Did find some smaller dog boundary flags for $2.50 for 50 also.

[Fuzz]

With as much OB as we are putting, paying $6 a can for marking paint that works in those would just be too much.

Those are very handy though, wish you could get marking paint for $1 a can like the regular spray.

For marking large amounts of OB we use a spray paint marking wand (http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?keyword=Spray+Paint+Marking+Wand&selectedCatgry=SEARCH+ALL&langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053&Ntpc=1&Ntpr=1). It has a wheel so it rolls easily across the ground and make a consistent line width. It's only $20 and is a huge help when marking long, straight lines. We then put flags in the OB line to make it easily visible.

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/1e/1edf8ad7-6603-49d4-bc60-0fadd78776f5_300.jpg

[Script]

flags are a good thing. played the a tourney in gastonia earlier this year and totally forgot that they put a fake ob pond on a hole. it was on the handout, it just would have been nice if there were some flags up instead of just paint as 3/4 of us in the group hit it and were surprised as we walked up to it.

/rant from 6 months ago

[Fuzz]

Yeah, we will have flags for visibilty from a distance.

[1978]

They may be overdone, but this is an outdated course on a small piece of land. We want to do something to make it a bit more special and up to date which will require forcing some lines to keep other fairways safe etc.

No TD wants to deal with 100 people coming over and asking to verify if in fact something was over an imaginary line, so we'll be providing a line for them.

You say, we are here to have fun. Group decision...if you can't agree consider it in bounds. I mean if you have 4 somes... the player is out and the other 3 can vote. No reason for a TD to view the OB. OR just supply each group with a 50' piece of string to run between stakes...then they can make their very own line if needed.

[grodney]

Waaaaa? So is this disc in bounds or out of bounds assuming the upper left of the marks is OB?

http://i42.tinypic.com/jp9dae.jpg

In bounds, obviously.

[GT Chris]

Yeah i checked some prices on nails and they are a little pricey. hard to beat 100 flags for $8. Did find some smaller dog boundary flags for $2.50 for 50 also.

Have you looked at golf tees instead of nails?

[1978]

With as much OB as we are putting, paying $6 a can for marking paint that works in those would just be too much.

Those are very handy though, wish you could get marking paint for $1 a can like the regular spray.

Walk your local habitat for humanity store. I recently picked up 100 flags, and 15 roles of flagging tape for new courses for under $10, would have cost $50 in the store. They have all sorts of things that you could use to mark the OB and I bet would even be willing to haggle down further.

You can also paint stones with your $1/can paint and use those as OB markers.

[DavidSauls]

Have you looked at golf tees instead of nails?

I brought up the nails and, to be clear, we use them to secure the string. Nail the string down every 20-40' feet, as needed, and it stays in place. The nail isn't visible.

If you're fine with line-of-sight rulings, it's hard to beat landscape flags for price, visibility, and ease of installation, especially in hard ground.

Spray-paint can make a less-than-precise line, and where you have leaves or bare dirt, can be obliterated as time goes by. In a shared-use park, it's a bit of an eyesore too.

[Fuzz]

Have you looked at golf tees instead of nails?

Nice one...Ill look into that too.

[Fuzz]

Walk your local habitat for humanity store. I recently picked up 100 flags, and 15 roles of flagging tape for new courses for under $10, would have cost $50 in the store. They have all sorts of things that you could use to mark the OB and I bet would even be willing to haggle down further.

You can also paint stones with your $1/can paint and use those as OB markers.

I can go look in ours but our HFH is pretty beat down and not much to get there.

[scarpfish]

One thing that I might stress about flags, string and staking versus paint is that you can re-use the materials for subsequent events.

[jhgonzo]

OB lava

[DavidSauls]

One thing that I might stress about flags, string and staking versus paint is that you can re-use the materials for subsequent events.

Yes.

The downside is that they have to be picked up to avoid mower damage (in places that must be mown).

[Fuzz]

Hate to ressurrect this fairly old thread but felt like some may like to know what happened.

I ended up using survey flags and twine. Total distance of OB was just shy of 6000ft of twine being held by just under 400 survey flags and anchored to some wood stakes every few hundred feet or so. Total cost for all the OB supplies was right at $70.

Never heard a word from any players about it not being visible enough or anything negative at all.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys!

[AcesandChains]

I'm thinking of using this same method for at least part of my OBs this year. A few questions:

Were you able to pull the twine tight from survey flag to survey flag? In other words, were the flags strong enough to allow you to tighten the twine, or is that why you needed the occasional wooden stake?

How long did it take you to mark all that OB?

You mention no negative comments....any positive ones?

[Stan McDaniel]

As the years roll on by I am beginning to hate the artificial OB that needs to be freshened up on some of our courses. It takes hours of work each year just to prepare Renaissance for a tournament and we don't string between each flag or stake.

[denny ritner]

As the years roll on by I am beginning to hate the artificial OB that needs to be freshened up on some of our courses. It takes hours of work each year just to prepare Renaissance for a tournament and we don't string between each flag or stake.

Stan, I really hope y'all re-assess the OB's at Renny for Worlds. There are quite a few that I'd recommend removing. The places where OB appears to be used to separate adjacent holes could be replaced with mando's, imo.

There are several places that OB stakes are found in the middle of schule. I think that those OB lines should be on the schule's edge or, preferably, removed altogether.

On the other hand, there are places that it is physically impossible to take a stance without sliding on clay (such as the ditch bank near hole 18's yellow basket). These places do need to be designated as either OB or casual relief, again imo.

Don't get me wrong, Charlotte is my favorite disc golf destination and I love the challenge of Renny, just a few thoughts. I'm hoping that I'll be able to attend the festivities.

[Fuzz]

I'm thinking of using this same method for at least part of my OBs this year. A few questions:

Were you able to pull the twine tight from survey flag to survey flag? In other words, were the flags strong enough to allow you to tighten the twine, or is that why you needed the occasional wooden stake?

How long did it take you to mark all that OB?

You mention no negative comments....any positive ones?

I would recommend this method for ease of set-up and cost.

I was able to pull it pretty tight with just the flags. I tied the twine to the anchor stake, then had someone start rolling out the twine down the line while i followed and did and over/under twist with the flag around the twine and pulll tight and stuck the flag. I used more stakes and points just to make sure i had solid tiedown points just in case anything got pulled up I could just go pull tight on the string/flag and restick it without worry of pulling things loose. I didnt have to deal with it though becasue it all stayed nice and tight.

Over a mile worth of twine with 400 flags and 20ish 18" wood stakes and it took less then 3 hours with only 2 people.

I consider no complaints as positive feedback. I've learned that if people like something then they usually dont say anything but if they dont then you can be dam sure you're gonna hear about it. I never heard a peep about the string or anyone questioning an ob call. Couldnt be more satisfied with the way I did it.

[Karl]

"Miles of OB- How to???"

Hopefully I won't stumble across this course / tournament in my travels....

[Fuzz]

The course has very thick bamboo type reeds that line the course on one side. Alot of people end up throwing into them. Very difficult to find a disc in there so in order to speed play during an event I wanted to line the sticks with OB. Not only does it speed play becasue you dont have time to go search for it but it is less of a penalty to just play it OB where it went out as opposed to trying to throw out of the thick rough, or even worse, get a stroke and distance penalty for a lost disc.

I did add a "pond" to keep two holes that play along each other seperate and I made an island hole on a very short an easy hole just to help with score spread and make something out of nothing.

The course was 18 holes at 7300ft in length and the SSA came out to about 55.5 so the ob's etc werent very difficult to navigate.

[IDGC_SUPER]

We did some roping here at the IDGC this summer on the Jackson course. This was done to make the OB more clear and fair to all players. People were arguing over whether they were OB or not and would actually bring in pictures on their cell phone in order to have the TD make a decision.

I am not a big fan of artificial OB but this needed to be done on some of our holes, before another large event took place. What we did is get spools of yellow rope from harbor frieght, and order tent stakes, also known as Power Pegs. We were able to buy these plastic stakes in a yellow color in bulk, then used them to secure the rope to the ground. We would wrap the rope around the peg once and then stake it into the ground. Then pull the rope taught and do the next one.

We used some of the white OB flagging, to make the OB lines visible from further away. My problem with this is I believe the white flagging looks like trash all over the course. This is even more of an issue at some of our larger events, that have lots of spectators or are being filmed for internet or DVD use.