New dye, KC Pro Aviar does NOT hold dye!!!

[BennettUA]

I bought a nice new Ken Climo Pro Aviar to dye for a good putter. I assumed the "Pro" meant Pro plastic, but it seems it only means "Ken Climo is a pro, and this disc is made of recycled scrap."

I cut and masked with great attention to detail to get the font right(all hand-cut). I knew this was going to look clean and sweet when finished. I mixed some "scarlet" and "wine" Rit dye concentrate with a little water and into the warm pan it went.
After soaking for 10 minutes, the vinyl was dyed, but the disc didn't seem to hold ANY dye. OK, no prob, I'll warm up the dye again, let it go longer.....and on and on. No different. I added more dye concentrate. Same. I left it in the pan overnight and through today.
This is the end result----a weakish pink/purple, looks like chewed bubble gum.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2429/3740863394_7886c5e7f0_b.jpg

The lines are clean, no bleeds, although I don't know how a bleed would hold anyway......
So this will be a practice putter.
Word to the wise -- KC PRO does NOTTTTTT mean Pro plastic!!!!
:eek::eek::eek:
BennettUA

[solomon.trenton]

if it was a good team the dye would look much better.

[tbird888]

I always heard that Pro Plastic was just as hard to dye as DX. Star and Champion are the easiest.

The dye looks great. It just looks like the disc has seen action for the last ten years and has faded as a result.

[XxInnovaxX]

if it was a good team the dye would look much better.

agreed.....:D...still looks sweet though man...why use it as a practice putter? who cares about people laughing at your disc, at least yours made it in the basket right?

[ShaZaun]

besides the whole Alabama thing.....cool disc.....shoulds been a TX team......

[BennettUA]

if it was a good team the dye would look much better.

Yeah, Alabama's disc golf team sucks.

Their football program though, that's tough to beat.

:cool:

[BennettUA]

I always heard that Pro Plastic was just as hard to dye as DX. Star and Champion are the easiest.

The dye looks great. It just looks like the disc has seen action for the last ten years and has faded as a result.

Some molds of it I guess, but this dye was on Pro plastic:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3435/3717086832_7293cf957c.jpg

Ten minutes in the dye for both red and black and it came out looking like that, clean, sharp, and DARK. If these two discs were the same plastic, I'm fooled.
(please note, the top disc in the Rolling Stones photo is NOT the KC Pro Aviar I tried to die the Alabama logo on. It is another Pro Wraith)

[BennettUA]

besides the whole Alabama thing.....cool disc.....shoulds been a TX team......

Would you settle for a Texas quarterback playing for Alabama? (Greg McElroy)

[zud00]

How hot was your water? I've heard that DX plastics and harder plastics will take the dye but only with very hot water.

[BennettUA]

How hot was your water? I've heard that DX plastics and harder plastics will take the dye but only with very hot water.

As hot as always to start, but I cranked it up after about an hour of nothing. I usually have my stove on 1.5(out of 10) and that's really hot(too hot for "1.5"imho), so I put it up at ~5 for a little while and then took it off the heat while it was hotter than any other dye I'd done before and let it sit there all night. Still came out like this.

I do like the disc, the under-rim is unique to this "type" of Aviar, and it DOES look better than it did before, but not exactly what I wanted. Just looks like i dyed it 10 years ago and have used it for every shot I've made since :D.

[GreenGlom]

Yeah I tried dyeing a KC Pro Roc...didn't turn out so well either. The color never really took very well and I had some bad bleeds. I'm pretty sure that Innova says KC Pro is a "special blend" of the pro plastic so it has some different characteristics, such as being terrible for dyeing.

[adam423]

I like it, looks vintage. I like Tortex picks too.

[atl scott]

KC pro plastic is not regular pro plastic. It is its own blend (which changes from batch to batch)... I can't stand the stuff. Too slippery to grip but too soft to withstand any damage!

[ShaZaun]

Would you settle for a Texas quarterback playing for Alabama? (Greg McElroy)
yep......go Alabama.........;)

[BennettUA]

I like it, looks vintage. I like Tortex picks too.

Good eye Adam ;)

[sonny]

The same disc mold as the KC Aviar is also available in Star plastic. Innova just calls it the Aviar Driver in Star (or DX). But it's the same big bead Aviar mold.

The JK Aviar is the same mold too; but since the JKs don't hold sharpie very well, I wouldn't try to dye one.