Taylor Lake Village DGC near Houston, TX

[ChrisMacG]

I just got word from my contact at Taylor Lake Village that they are very close to their fund raising goal for a new 18-hole course (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=3405) in south east Harris County (near NASA and on Clear Lake). At this point they only need an additional $1,200 donated before the city will release funds for baskets to be purchased. Once purchased we'll assemble volunteers to install the baskets and we'll have a brand new 18-hole course in a beautiful park on the lake by the end of September.

If you know of any companies or disc golf businesses that would be interested in sponsoring a hole or donating to this course please send them this information.

Please head over to the TLV web site (http://www.taylorlakevillage.us/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={3A200F45-4D88-4FEF-9709-35DF4749A610}) for more information on the course and sponsoring opportunities. Donations are also accepted.

Note: The web site still lists the course as being 12 holes. It will be a full 18 with a nice island hole for you to lose strokes on.

[Omega SuperSloth]

I just got word from my contact at Taylor Lake Village that they are very close to their fund raising goal for a new 18-hole course (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=3405) in south east Harris County (near NASA and on Clear Lake). At this point they only need an additional $1,200 donated before the city will release funds for baskets to be purchased. Once purchased we'll assemble volunteers to install the baskets and we'll have a brand new 18-hole course in a beautiful park on the lake by the end of September.

If you know of any companies or disc golf businesses that would be interested in sponsoring a hole or donating to this course please send them this information.

Please head over to the TLV web site (http://www.taylorlakevillage.us/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={3A200F45-4D88-4FEF-9709-35DF4749A610}) for more information on the course and sponsoring opportunities. Donations are also accepted.

Note: The web site still lists the course as being 12 holes. It will be a full 18 with a nice island hole for you to lose strokes on.im not going to go into specifics but you might wanna do some research before you donate .Hfds

[thepowerofpancakes]

sweet a course in houston in the good part of town!!!!

oh wait..it will still smell like houston though uhh? :D

[ThePatrick]

im not going to go into specifics but you might wanna do some research before you donate .Hfds

No mention of HFDS anywhere in there. But you obviously have a bad taste in you mouth....

[thepowerofpancakes]

No mention of HFDS anywhere in there. But you obviously have a bad taste in you mouth....


it's houston, breathing leaves a bad taste in your mouth...haha...sorry..i had to take it...lol :D

[Omega SuperSloth]

No mention of HFDS anywhere in there. But you obviously have a bad taste in you mouth....i meant go to HFDS

[ChrisMacG]

im not going to go into specifics but you might wanna do some research before you donate .Hfds

What are you suggesting?

Here's the basic facts:

Taylor Lake Village has a great park for a course with mature trees, a lake view, restrooms, and ample parking.
The city government has already approved it (I've spoken to the mayor and she's all for it).
The donations are being handled by the city and if for any reason the course doesn't happen all donations will be refunded 100%.
The area recently lost a 9-hole course nearby (Burke-Crenshaw is now a forgettable 4-holes).
A new 18-hole course!


More information can be found here: Disc Golf Course Eyed for Park (http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2009_4754154)

[ChrisMacG]

sweet a course in houston in the good part of town!!!!

oh wait..it will still smell like houston though uhh? :D

Nah. I live near this park and we're fortunately between the stink of refineries in Texas City (south) and Pasadena (north).

[thepowerofpancakes]

Nah. I live near this park and we're fortunately between the stink of refineries in Texas City (south) and Pasadena (north).

thats good...i stayed in clear lake when i went to texas states the last two times. i like it out there. good luck with the course

[Midnightbiker]

Clear Lake where this course is going to be installed is a very nice , upper middle class area of town.

If you want to find some smells , go to Deer Park, Galena Park, or North Pasadena. West Baytown also smells sometimes

[ChrisMacG]

If you want to find some smells , go to Deer Park, Galena Park, or North Pasadena. West Baytown also smells sometimes

And you drive through all that to play Miramar Phil. You're a good man.

[Omega SuperSloth]

What are you suggesting?

Here's the basic facts:

Taylor Lake Village has a great park for a course with mature trees, a lake view, restrooms, and ample parking.
The city government has already approved it (I've spoken to the mayor and she's all for it).
The donations are being handled by the city and if for any reason the course doesn't happen all donations will be refunded 100%.
The area recently lost a 9-hole course nearby (Burke-Crenshaw is now a forgettable 4-holes).
A new 18-hole course!


More information can be found here: Disc Golf Course Eyed for Park (http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2009_4754154)about burke crenshaw-Andi said she was going to try to get in contact with the parks people again as the word is they will rebuild it around the softball field but dont know how, but she also said there was talk of relocating to another park originaly .

And btw shes a real profesional course designer and maybe that dosnt mean anything to some people but that does make a big difference

[ChrisMacG]

about burke crenshaw-Andi said she was going to try to get in contact with the parks people again as the word is they will rebuild it around the softball field but dont know how, but she also said there was talk of relocating to another park originaly .

That's a lot of wrong informaiton. The City of Pasadena Parks Department has no interest in doing anything for disc golf at Burke-Crenshaw Park. I've spoken to the parks office a number of times on this matter. I heard yesterday that the remaining four baskets have now been pulled from Burke-Crenshaw park too, but I haven't verified yet.

But Burke-Crenshaw isn't the topic here. What is your beef with the TLV course?

And btw shes a real profesional course designer and maybe that dosnt mean anything to some people but that does make a big difference

Ah, so I'm guessing that your beef is with the design of the course, which is interesting because only a preliminary design has been posted for the purpose of soliciting feedback.

The guy who's putting the course together, Steve Green, has made himself available to any disc golfer who wants to have input on the course, including Andi or anyone else with course design experience. I don't think anyone has taken him up on the offer other than me. Have you? If not, why?

You know what else makes a big difference? Using good grammar, proper punctuation and the shift key to capitalize. Instead of sitting at your computer trying to derail this course with innuendo, why don't you do something positive towards this course happening?

[Midnightbiker]

And you drive through all that to play Miramar Phil. You're a good man.

I love Miramar Park. Its my favorite 9-hole course in the Houston area. TLV sounds like its going to be cool as well. That would give me two good courses to play in the area, because for me to play Miramar, its 50 miles one way. My favorite 18 is Hitchcock #1. Sucks that is 70miles away.

Speaking of which, Chris, Kingwood is open again. When are you going to drive up and join me for a round or two. I gotta great place I can recommend for lunch.

[Omega SuperSloth]

That's a lot of wrong informaiton. The City of Pasadena Parks Department has no interest in doing anything for disc golf at Burke-Crenshaw Park. I've spoken to the parks office a number of times on this matter. I heard yesterday that the remaining four baskets have now been pulled from Burke-Crenshaw park too, but I haven't verified yet.

But Burke-Crenshaw isn't the topic here. What is your beef with the TLV course?



Ah, so I'm guessing that your beef is with the design of the course, which is interesting because only a preliminary design has been posted for the purpose of soliciting feedback.

The guy who's putting the course together, Steve Green, has made himself available to any disc golfer who wants to have input on the course, including Andi or anyone else with course design experience. I don't think anyone has taken him up on the offer other than me. Have you? If not, why?

You know what else makes a big difference? Using good grammar, proper punctuation and the shift key to capitalize. Instead of sitting at your computer trying to derail this course with innuendo, why don't you do something positive towards this course happening?if i go by crenshaw ill let you know maybe the talk of relocating is true and im not going to even get into the whole internet message board spell nazi b.s. , if its so important talk tim into putting spell check on here or stfu. jkbtw:)

and if you knew anything youd know i was the first to post anything about TLVDGC and i was excited and wanted to let others know and i was planning on donating money or basket. but the more info that came the more its started to look like something wasnt right. first the numbers just didnt add up for a 9 or 12 hole then it came out that he was looking for volunteers to do the work which made the money not add up even more .

then i read that he fudged the numbers cause he had no idea how much to ask (but yet did no research) and hes not even a dger , then he cusses people out who are only trying to help him and uses profanity in his post advertising sponsership and on top of all that he wont start until all the money is raised . now hes talking about making it an 18 but the city says its going to a 9 hole for now .

you know there asking alot of money from people and alot of these people were under the impression that this has a professionaly designed course or at least designed by a dger , is this park even big enough for a grown-up 18 and if it is built by volunteers will some of the money be refunded to the donaters.

if you wanna donate go ahead i just wanted people who hadnt done the research to take a look before they made a choice cause it would be real said for al these people to get ripped off when they are trying to do something cool for the community and end up with a clute style course.

[Omega SuperSloth]

The guy who's putting the course together, Steve Green, has made himself available to any disc golfer who wants to have input on the course, including Andi or anyone else with course design experience. I don't think anyone has taken him up on the offer other than me. Have you? If not, whygee i wonder why nobody has taking him up on his offer , could it be hes totally un-professional and dosnt have the good sense not to pull an 80 played style
tyraid on a public forum that everyone looking to help him will read or ask for donations to put your name on a big FUC*ING sign . And ive played dg for 8 years and would have no clue how to design a course , maybe i could come up with a cool hole or 2 but wouldnt know how to make those holes fit into the whole course to make sure there was room and it all flowed together or the many other little things and thoughts that go into a course design.

you cant just design one hole at a time and hope in the end it works well and all turns into a good course . these people donated money for a dg course not dg holes . the thing is im not a designer, your not and hes not i could care less what any of us think . if he wants to get andi involved that would be great but im guessing she not going to work for free or work along side this guy as shes a course designer . if that dude really wants to do whats best for the course and dg he would step aside and talk the city into hiring andi to start from scatch and design another great course.

[thepowerofpancakes]

so this guy who is designing the course isnt a disc golfer? and i have to agree with Sloth that not just anyone can design a course, you have to have the eye, course design is difficult to get right.

We had a suburb up here in Fort Worth was willing to put in and pay for an 18 hole course but we could not get them to hire a course designer, they wanted the city engineer to do the whole thing, design and all, he had never even played the game. So we told them we would not support it and that real disc golfers would not play it and the only people who would be out there would be teenagers causing trouble. Nothing we could say would convince them, so far they have not gone forward with the course....thankfully....

[ChrisMacG]

so this guy who is designing the course isnt a disc golfer? and i have to agree with Sloth that not just anyone can design a course, you have to have the eye, course design is difficult to get right.

I can't even make sense of Sloth's rambling posts. He's strung together a lot of wrong information and assumptions about the TLV course, the city, the park and the guy putting it together. Seems to me like he's got an agenda to stop the course.

Steve hasn't been playing disc golf for a long time. He's originally an Ultimate guy but he's got the DG bug now and is a good player with a really accurate mid-range game. The course design is still in flux, but it is shaping up to be a good looking course. Steve's initial design was based on reading the PDGA course design guidelines. If you want to give input, contact Steve.

[ChrisMacG]

I heard yesterday that the remaining four baskets have now been pulled from Burke-Crenshaw park too, but I haven't verified yet.

I went by this morning. The four baskets on the north part of the park are still there.

[Midnightbiker]

I think Pasadena is a lost cause. I wish they would send those baskets to some places that could use them. Kingwood, Bear Branch, and Hitchcock #2 could all use a practice basket

[ChrisMacG]

I think Pasadena is a lost cause.

In more ways than one.

[Midnightbiker]

In more ways than one.


From the signs and the course map, it looks like it was a bad ass course at one time. Shame it fell by the wayside. I think the city should have done more to promote the sport

[Midnightbiker]

Hey Chris,

I suggest at HFDS that I thought that Challenger 7 Park would be a great place for a course. Everyone thought I was nuts. I haven't been there in over 10 years, but last time I was there, it looked like a huge unused park. What do you think?

[thepowerofpancakes]

I can't even make sense of Sloth's rambling posts. He's strung together a lot of wrong information and assumptions about the TLV course, the city, the park and the guy putting it together. Seems to me like he's got an agenda to stop the course.

Steve hasn't been playing disc golf for a long time. He's originally an Ultimate guy but he's got the DG bug now and is a good player with a really accurate mid-range game. The course design is still in flux, but it is shaping up to be a good looking course. Steve's initial design was based on reading the PDGA course design guidelines. If you want to give input, contact Steve.

My friend Brandon started designing courses shortly after he caught the disc golf bug. now we have three great new courses thanks to him. I remember he absorbed all the literature and threads about course design. He was new and a lot of people where skeptical at first, but now he is a leader and trusted designer in the community. so good luck with what you all are doing.

[ThePatrick]

Hey Chris,

I suggest at HFDS that I thought that Challenger 7 Park would be a great place for a course. Everyone thought I was nuts. I haven't been there in over 10 years, but last time I was there, it looked like a huge unused park. What do you think?

They didn't think you were nuts, they told you that it had been suggested before and was very poorly received by the people who have control of the property. I am just happy that Kingwood is now open again. This Taylor Lake Property has been on my radar for a while. I have been very interested in going down and checking it out, but everytime that I could make it down, Steve?, couldn't do meet me. I need to print of his map and go walk the property a few times. It could be another great course that is on the opposite side of the city from me, but oh well, it's worth it for a good course.

[ChrisMacG]

From the signs and the course map, it looks like it was a bad ass course at one time. Shame it fell by the wayside. I think the city should have done more to promote the sport

Part of the problem with the course out there was that the people going to the park had no idea what the disc golf baskets were for. I played Pasadena about a dozen times last year and at least twice I had to ask someone to remove their child from the basket. They seemed to think the baskets were infant holders or their own personal scrap metal supply.

[ChrisMacG]

I need to print of his map and go walk the property a few times. It could be another great course that is on the opposite side of the city from me, but oh well, it's worth it for a good course.

Give me a shout if you're coming this way. I'll meet you on the course and walk it with you if Steve can't.

[ThePatrick]

Give me a shout if you're coming this way. I'll meet you on the course and walk it with you if Steve can't.
Sounds good, I may head out there on tuesday or wednesday of next week, what time/day is best for you?

[Omega SuperSloth]

I can't even make sense of Sloth's rambling posts. He's strung together a lot of wrong information and assumptions about the TLV course, the city, the park and the guy putting it together. Seems to me like he's got an agenda to stop the course.

Steve hasn't been playing disc golf for a long time. He's originally an Ultimate guy but he's got the DG bug now and is a good player with a really accurate mid-range game. The course design is still in flux, but it is shaping up to be a good looking course. Steve's initial design was based on reading the PDGA course design guidelines. If you want to give input, contact Steve.what info is incorrect? they all came from either the man himself or from direct quotes from the city itself.
should 2 or 3 people with the combined playing exp. of 2 years design a course no. how far do you and steve throw ? if you design a course to your liking do you think better players will like it as well , noobs will come and go some will get better and move on but most will quit . The good players are the ones that are going to stick around and keep the park going.

do some research and look at the names of the course designers of all the houston area parks and youll notice something there are only 2-3 names that show up on all the most loved parks in town(excluding seabrook while its cool its super dangerous) then go to the *****y parks and youll see names that are only on that park alone ,and chances are those are the run down courses that wont be around very long. So i hope im wrong about steve and it turns out good and hes the exception .

[ChrisMacG]

i hope im wrong.

You are.

[ChrisMacG]

My friend Brandon started designing courses shortly after he caught the disc golf bug. now we have three great new courses thanks to him. I remember he absorbed all the literature and threads about course design. He was new and a lot of people where skeptical at first, but now he is a leader and trusted designer in the community. so good luck with what you all are doing.

Thanks for the positive encouragement. The TLV course is shaping up nicely. The layout of the course has changed a bit and I've been talking to Steve about adding alt tees for the course to offer power players a more challenging course. What is really needed though, is donations.

[thepowerofpancakes]

What is really needed though, is donations.

maybe you can get some of those refiniries to buy some ionic breeze baskets, it would be good PR for them to try to clean up the stink down there :D jk :p man Houston stink jokes never get old to me...lol..sorry about that...;)

[Omega SuperSloth]

TLV and miramar are right off the bay so it dont stink in day , sometimes at night when the wind dies down and other times real late when the companies know knowone is watching it smells more like pasadena

[thepowerofpancakes]

TLV and miramar are right off the bay so it dont stink in day , sometimes at night when the wind dies down and other times real late when the companies know knowone is watching it smells more like pasadena

:D:D:D i was playing a course yesterday and i came upon this hole that had the sewage drain fouling the air and i was thinking that if i were writing a review i would say 'watch out for this hole it smells like houston'...lol...but i wouldnt, it smelled much worse than houston...:D

[Midnightbiker]

:D:D:D i was playing a course yesterday and i came upon this hole that had the sewage drain fouling the air and i was thinking that if i were writing a review i would say 'watch out for this hole it smells like houston'...lol...but i wouldn't, it smelled much worse than houston...:D

The only parts of Houston that stink are right along the ship channel in on the east side. The area where Taylor Lake Village is going to have the course, is a very well to do, part of town. There are also some very nice areas just outside of the city.

Clear Lake where the new course is going is also in a very nice part of town, and near the famous Kemah Boardwalk, a very fun place to visit

[thepowerofpancakes]

The only parts of Houston that stink are right along the ship channel in on the east side. The area where Taylor Lake Village is going to have the course, is a very well to do, part of town. There are also some very nice areas just outside of the city.

Clear Lake where the new course is going is also in a very nice part of town, and near the famous Kemah Boardwalk, a very fun place to visit

quit trying to throw logic and factuals at my proclivity for houston stink comments. :p

[Omega SuperSloth]

:D:D:D i was playing a course yesterday and i came upon this hole that had the sewage drain fouling the air and i was thinking that if i were writing a review i would say 'watch out for this hole it smells like houston'...lol...but i wouldnt, it smelled much worse than houston...:Djust say Pasadena instead(or as its known around here"Stinkadena") even the people who live there wont argue about it stinking or not and dont get me started on Baytown , you can actually see the air. And i guess Seabrook does smell like fish sometimes

[ChrisMacG]

then go to the *****y parks and youll see names that are only on that park alone ,and chances are those are the run down courses that wont be around very long.

Are you talking about the courses at Mason, Burke-Crenshaw and Clinton parks?

[ChrisMacG]

Seabrook does smell like fish sometimes

The water between 7 & 8 does work up a stench on occasion. After Hurricane Ike there was a really foul stench at Miramar for about three months, but it's back to normal now.

[srm_520]

Man, I go a few weeks without staying on top of the message boards, and look at all of the fun I miss. Chris, I just hope everything works out down there since I've never been found of Houston's DG track record. But from everything I've read - I'm optimistic. Omega, I think you need to do some more research and think about your argument before you write. Not to say you're wrong or even that your information may be incorrect - you're just not coming across very well. Which, of course sounds like your original complaint about Steve.

My only complaint is that this course is going in on the wrong side of town! :)

Please keep us posted on progress, since the only other place to pick up on the tidbits has been from HFDS. Thanks!

BTW - I really like the Kemah area too, but it does smell funny... ;)

[Omega SuperSloth]

Are you talking about the courses at Mason, Burke-Crenshaw and Clinton parks?
i understand what your getting at so if you dont like andi's courses dont play them and why your at it might as well not play any of jakes courses either since hes also a course designer . so what will that leave you with:)

[ChrisMacG]

if you dont like andi's courses

I like to play Andi's courses. I played one yesterday and I'm off to play another today.

I'm just pointing out that you've made yet another statement on this thread that is factually the opposit of the point you're trying to make. It seems that the reason for a course being pulled doesn't have anything to do with the course designer's skill, at least in the case of the three most recent "lost" courses in our area.

No need to apologize though.

[Midnightbiker]

I am for any new course going in, and I am really looking forward to TLV. Chris, one question, I looked at some pics from above, and I didn't see much parking. What is the parking situation going to be like, and how close will the parking be to the first tee?

[Omega SuperSloth]

I like to play Andi's courses. I played one yesterday and I'm off to play another today.

I'm just pointing out that you've made yet another statement on this thread that is factually the opposit of the point you're trying to make. It seems that the reason for a course being pulled doesn't have anything to do with the course designer's skill, at least in the case of the three most recent "lost" courses in our area.

No need to apologize though.
ive been playing crenshaw for 8 years dude to compare that to the others you mentioned is ignorant , the city has been doing the best they can to keep up that park but every time they put in a new basket some douch steals it ,and until the softball field it was steal playable except for the one missing hole which had recently been replaced with a new disc catcher which was stolen within a month.
And why are you still dodgeing my question what info that i stated is incorrect about TLV? Instead of saying general statements about my facts being wrong back it up with something dont just say im wrong say why .

[Omega SuperSloth]

and btw none of those courses have been pulled so thats a misstatement of fact. and also i said "chances are" i never stated it as fact cause when i claim fact i go to the source unlike you who just speaks on facts without any of his own to back it up.

btw if you keep my name out of your mouth with exception to back up your points with some facts ill stop posting on this thread and hows that sep 1 opening going

[ChrisMacG]

And why are you still dodgeing(sic) my question what info that i(sic) stated is incorrect about TLV? Instead of saying general statements about my facts being wrong back it up with something dont(sic) just say im(sic) wrong say why .

Why? Because you can't even take the time to use correct punctuation, capitalization, grammar or spelling in your incoherent posts. Way to take yourself seriously.

Since you asked though, here's where you've posted wrong information, but just on this thread because I suspect correcting you could be a full time job.

first the numbers just didnt(sic) add up for a 9 or 12 hole then it came out that he was looking for volunteers to do the work which made the money not add up even more .(sic)

This is wrong information. I've talked to Steve and know what the initial budget entailed. The original plan was to have one of the most feature packed courses in the area with full-color signage, 12' concrete tee pads and benches on every hole, plus hiring a crew to put it in.

The request for volunteers came after people told Steve that the DG community would be glad to put in a weekend to help put the course in. The budget has changed to reflect the feedback of the community.

i(sic) read that he fudged the numbers cause(sic) he had no idea how much to ask (but yet did no research)

You read that he fudged the numbers and did no research? Don't you mean that you speculated that he fudged the numbers and did no research? Because that statement would be accurate while yours was not.

hes(sic) not even a dger(sic)

And you make this accusation based on what? I'm interested because I've played a round of disc golf with Steve and he's a decent player.

he cusses people out who are only trying to help him and uses profanity in his post advertising sponsership(sic)

Now you're using slander to try to make your point. Steve hasn't "cussed people out" in his posts about this course. Also, considering the profanity that you have used in making your points, you really shouldn't complain.

on top of all that he wont(sic) start until all the money is raised

Again, this is wrong information. Steve has responded to community input and the course will be installed once there is enough money to buy the basics; baskets and tee posts. They're very close at this point. Tournaments will be organized to fund further development of the course.

now hes(sic) talking about making it an 18 but the city says its going to a 9 hole for now

Steve has officially stated that it will be an 18 hole course. It is listed on this web site as being an 18 hole course. The city hasn't updated their web site.

you know there(sic) asking alot(sic) of money from people and alot(sic) of these people were under the impression that this has a professionaly(sic) designed course or at least designed by a dger

You give us speculation here again. Five to seven grand is not a lot of money for the installation of a disc golf course. The City of Austin requested $880,000 for a 36 hole course earlier this year (http://www.txcn.com/sharedcontent/dws/txcn/austin/stories/013009kvue_austin_wish_list-cb.2898a5f.html). Who was under the impression that this was going to be a professionally designed course? The same person who thinks Steve isn't a disc golfer? Hasn't Steve also asked for input from other disc golfers? I've played the course and given my input. I'm a disc golfer. You are wrong.

is this park even big enough for a grown-up 18 and if it is built by volunteers(sic) will some of the money be refunded to the donaters(sic).(sic)

The park is big enough for an 18 hole course that's about 5,600' long. With alts for the advanced players the course will top 7,000'. TLV has stated that donations will be refunded if they're not used. Who hasn't done research now?

if you wanna(sic) donate go ahead(sic) i(sic) just wanted people who hadnt(sic) done the research to take a look before they made a choice cause(sic) it would be real said(sic) for al(sic) these people to get ripped off when they are trying to do something cool for the community and end up with a clute(sic) style course.

Considering you obviously haven't done the research nor made any effort to give input on the design of the course you are just engaged in idle speculation. Do you really think that the Taylor Lake City government is trying to rip people off?

gee(sic) i(sic) wonder why nobody has taking(sic) him up on his offer , could it be hes(sic) totally un-professional(sic) and dosnt(sic) have the good sense not to pull an 80 played style
tyraid(sic) on a public forum that everyone looking to help him will read or ask for donations to put your name on a big FUC*ING(sic) sign

I have no idea what an "80 played style tyraid" is. It sure doesn't sound like anything I've seen from Steve.

go to the *****y parks and youll(sic) see names that are only on that park alone ,and chances are those are the run down courses that wont be around very long.

I contend that the run down parks are mostly in areas where the disc golfing community is pretty sparse or the park is mainly used by people who are not interested in disc golf. The design of the course is not the main factor in course use or popularity. Proximity to players and park safety go a long way to making a course popular.

In the Houston area there are three parks which meet your criteria of "run down courses that wont be around very long;" Burke-Crenshaw, Mason and Clinton parks. I find it ironic that these parks were all designed by Andi Lehmann because that completely undermines your argument. I don't think that is a comment on the design of the courses and never implied it.

and btw(sic) none of those courses have been pulled so thats(sic) a misstatement of fact.

Here's a fact for you: Clinton Park (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=1129).

when i(sic) claim fact i(sic) go to the source unlike you who just speaks on facts without any of his own to back it up.

It's pretty clear that your wrong here again. See above for examples. Also, I post using my name and not a handle.

btw if you keep my name out of your mouth with exception to back up your points with some facts ill(sic) stop posting on this thread

Classy.

[Midnightbiker]

Damn!:eek:

[Omega SuperSloth]

wow you got me on one point - clinton park which i could not find a page for on here so i went to pdga which says they still have some baskets , and by your own admission some of what you stated is wrong as well .

i just basically summarized his own posts on hfds from the earliest info to the latest so yeah some the info has changed but i was just showing the progression of how it kept changing and there was never a well laid out plan . anyway im not going to go through all that info on those other sites and quote it word for word but if anyone wants to go do the research themselves its all there. www.Hfds.com and google taylor lake village disc golf to look at the city info where they claim it will only be nine holes for now. and its appears some of the original posts on hfds have been deleted or moved.

also as i have stated before i have dyslexia so i do my best with spelling but rub it in some more if you want.

[Omega SuperSloth]

btw the threads all yours enjoy your half -a** course , and while your at it go on dgcr and find the most highly rated courses around houston youll notice a trend. peace out gangster mac

[ChrisMacG]

btw if you keep my name out of your mouth with exception to back up your points with some facts ill(sic) stop posting on this thread

Feh. Even this turned out not to be true.

[thepowerofpancakes]

it's a proven fact that after two guys beat the crap out of each other they end up being best friends and ruling the school together ;)

[Midnightbiker]

it's a proven fact that after two guys beat the crap out of each other they end up being best friends and ruling the school together ;)

After TLV goes in the ground, I demand they have a round together. I want to play to just to watch the fireworks.

[ChrisMacG]

I am for any new course going in, and I am really looking forward to TLV. Chris, one question, I looked at some pics from above, and I didn't see much parking. What is the parking situation going to be like, and how close will the parking be to the first tee?

The park has ample parking. In the middle of the park, to the right of the drive triangle, is the parking area. It's about 450' by 80' and can handle around 60-70 cars. Overflow could either park at the city hall or the elementary school across the street.

The first tee is just past the playground at the north end of the parking lot. The 18th basket is on the south end of the parking lot. Nine & Ten have been relocated closer to the parking lot too.

[Midnightbiker]

I can't wait. I love playing new courses. I played North side Christian Church for the first time yesterday,and had a blast. I would have played more than two rounds, but the heat ran me off.

[ChrisMacG]

I can't wait. I love playing new courses. I played North side Christian Church for the first time yesterday,and had a blast. I would have played more than two rounds, but the heat ran me off.

I'm planning on taking my relatives from England over to that course in a few weeks. How is it for beginners? My back up course for our visitors is MacGregor Park, but that always seems so eponymous.

[ThePatrick]

I would suggest Terramont over NSChurch for beginners. The first couple of holes are ridiculously tight and can be discouraging for newer players. Terramont is better for at least letting them get a shot off.

[ChrisMacG]

I heard from Steve, the project lead, this evening. The TLV City Hall is just a few hundred short of the goal needed to start installation. Mayor O'Neil has approved purchasing the baskets as soon as the final pledged checks come in. Steve is hoping to install in the second half of September with a grand opening tourney in October. He's got a post hole digger volunteered to help with installation too (I expect this is a big machine as opposed to the hard labor kind).

We're also getting feedback from other disc golfers on the course design. It's getting much more interesting. Alt tees too.

If you are interested in a hole sponsorship or just donating to help these baskets get in please contact the TLV City Hall (http://www.taylorlakevillage.us/) in the next few days.


Here's the park the course is going in:
http://www.taylorlakevillage.us/vertical/Sites/%7B27010806-AF50-42F8-96CA-648CD0BF8C25%7D/uploads/%7BD4AF2903-5559-4E6F-961E-92A019E5CBBA%7D.JPG

[ChrisMacG]

Here's an overview of the course as we've laid it out. All distances are approximate and will not be accurate until the baskets are in. I'm expecting the final measure of the course to come in above 6,000 feet. The course has a number of long holes for the big arms and technical short holes too.

#1 - 220’ :: A short open hole with a few small trees and telephone poles.
#2 - 495’ :: Long open hole to deep, deep, deep center field.
#3 - 375’ :: Over, hyzer, anhyzer or through the pines.
#4 - 255’ :: Find a path through the trees
#5 - 410’ :: Long hole through a field of small trees
#6 - 645’ :: Big open long hole into the prevailing wind
#7 - 330’ :: Anhyzer around the backstop
#8 - 320’ :: Dodging trees to the basket
#9 - 340’ :: Anhyzer/hyzer around the tree in the middle of the fairway
#10 - 320’ :: Drive over the old pool and down the hill to the basket.
#11 - 290’ :: Out to the Peninsula, risk it?
#12 - 235’ :: Anhyzer around the trees
#13 - 240’ :: Hyzer up to the water tower, but watch the fence
#14 - 340’ :: Tight straight fairway through moderate trees
#15 - 285’ :: Hyzer through the big oaks
#16 - 330’ :: Anhyzer through the trees to the field
#17 - 280’ :: Anhyzer/hyzer around the tree in the middle of the fairway
#18 - 310’ :: Tin cup hole with an island green marked by the park roads.

http://chrismacg.com/tlvdgc/TLV_final.gif

[Midnightbiker]

I can't wait to play this course. Looks like a beautiful park.

[SpringDgLover]

I would suggest Terramont over NSChurch for beginners. The first couple of holes are ridiculously tight and can be discouraging for newer players. Terramont is better for at least letting them get a shot off.

Agreed, I took a large group of coworkers out there, all newbies, and they had a blast.

[SpringDgLover]

Here's an overview of the course as we've laid it out. All distances are approximate and will not be accurate until the baskets are in. I'm expecting the final measure of the course to come in above 6,000 feet. The course has a number of long holes for the big arms and technical short holes too.

#1 - 220’ :: A short open hole with a few small trees and telephone poles.
#2 - 495’ :: Long open hole to deep, deep, deep center field.
#3 - 375’ :: Over, hyzer, anhyzer or through the pines.
#4 - 255’ :: Find a path through the trees
#5 - 410’ :: Long hole through a field of small trees
#6 - 645’ :: Big open long hole into the prevailing wind
#7 - 330’ :: Anhyzer around the backstop
#8 - 320’ :: Dodging trees to the basket
#9 - 340’ :: Anhyzer/hyzer around the tree in the middle of the fairway
#10 - 320’ :: Drive over the old pool and down the hill to the basket.
#11 - 290’ :: Out to the Peninsula, risk it?
#12 - 235’ :: Anhyzer around the trees
#13 - 240’ :: Hyzer up to the water tower, but watch the fence
#14 - 340’ :: Tight straight fairway through moderate trees
#15 - 285’ :: Hyzer through the big oaks
#16 - 330’ :: Anhyzer through the trees to the field
#17 - 280’ :: Anhyzer/hyzer around the tree in the middle of the fairway
#18 - 310’ :: Tin cup hole with an island green marked by the park roads.

http://chrismacg.com/tlvdgc/TLV_final.gif

Man that looks totally awesome can not wait to get out there and play it when its done.

[Midnightbiker]

Agreed, I took a large group of coworkers out there, all newbies, and they had a blast.

I like Terramont, but you have to watch out for those bushes on the left side of #3, They like to eat discs.

[Midnightbiker]

Man that looks totally awesome can not wait to get out there and play it when its done.

Let me know when your going, and I will meet you out there.