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Raider Dave
08-25-2009, 01:46 PM
The signs at my local course are done. Sun faded beyond reading. How would I go about measuring the hole distance? I own a roller tape, wheel that measures distance. Is it a straight line, tee to basket, or the suggested flight path? I would like to measure, buy some sticky sign numbers, for the signs and post the distances on this web site. Thanks for any info guys.....
zenbot
08-25-2009, 01:48 PM
It's pricey but we use a laser range finder from tee to the basket. If you're in Bako I'm sure someone from Ventura Disc Golf will up that way before long.
Raider Dave
08-25-2009, 01:53 PM
Thanks, so it's a straight line, if your using a laser... I'll measure it asap, the wheel should be accurate +/- 1-2'. That should be close enough for local niner.
BTW: I just camped and played coyote point! Had a blast, great course!!!!!
biscoe
08-25-2009, 03:39 PM
course designers group recommends measuring along the flight path- measuring a straight line on a hole with a severe dogleg is silly.
Raider Dave
08-25-2009, 03:58 PM
So on a hole with three different flight paths, all being different distances, then ???????
I3ooI3oo
08-25-2009, 04:07 PM
If this is a single flight path measure it, if there is not measure the shortest path. Now on holes that have a specific fairway i would measure the center of the fairway to the basket. Same for wooded hole. If there is dogleg this would still apply.
Raider Dave
08-25-2009, 04:26 PM
OK, so if the sign shows one flight path, walk the center of that path, if it show more than one, measure the center of all, then list the shortest..... ?? Thanks guys.
Timber
08-26-2009, 07:37 AM
Racing line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_line)-From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In racing sports, the racing line is the route the vehicle must take in order to minimize the time taken to complete the course.
When analyzing a single corner, the optimum line is one that minimizes the time spent in the corner and maximizes the overall speed (of the vehicle) through the corner. If one used the path with the smallest radius, that would minimize the distance taken around that corner. However, by fitting a curve with the widest possible radius into the corner, the higher speed which can be maintained more than compensates for the extra distance travelled.[1]
The apex or clipping point is often used in motorsport, though other racing sports such as skiing and bicycling have similar concepts of an ideal line.
The apex is often but not always, the geometric center of the turn. Hitting the apex allows the vehicle to take the straightest line and maintain the highest speed through that specific corner. It is also the tightest part of a corner.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Racing_line.svg/300px-Racing_line.svg.png
Hole measurement is quite similar to racing lines but I think the line should be slightly straighter from the tee to the corner to reflect the higher disc velocity at release vs. fall off at the end of the flight.
Timber
08-26-2009, 07:50 AM
Hole measurement is quite similar to racing lines but I think the line should be slightly straighter from the tee to the corner to reflect the higher disc velocity at release vs. fall off at the end of the flight.
I thought about this for a minute and didn't want to edit the previous post.
The straightest part of the line should be whichever one of these is longest:
1) tee to corner (250' hole with the corner at 200')
2) corner to basket/preferred landing area (250' hole with the corner at 50')
Raider Dave
08-26-2009, 07:58 PM
Nevermind... =( I just wanted to measure a local 9 hole to update the signs, this site and measure how far I walk.................
Timber
08-27-2009, 10:13 AM
Try this Raider Dave, http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/
You should be able to measure the approximate course circuit if your local satellite images are up to snuff.
Zoom in on the map to your course and then switch to satellite view.
Set the Draw route option to : Manually, Straight lines
Press start recording then double click on the first tee (or parking lot) and proceed through the course, double clicking on each basket, next tee, etc. The program also allows you to; Count calories, View elevations, Save the route, Clear points and start over, Print the map and Export as GPX (external link).
Here's a round at Giles Run, White Tees to Silver Baskets, from (and back to) the parking lot.
Circuit is 3.15 Miles if you throw the perfect round.
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff323/BluemonTimber/Giles%20Run%20Meadow/gilesrunpedometer.jpg
Timber
08-27-2009, 10:18 AM
Here is the elevation chart from the Giles circuit.
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff323/BluemonTimber/Giles%20Run%20Meadow/gilesrunpedometerelevation.jpg
Raider Dave
08-27-2009, 01:58 PM
This is supposed to be a non-stress chill sport, not rocket science. I'll let someone else measure it...
humchris85
08-27-2009, 02:34 PM
This is supposed to be a non-stress chill sport, not rocket science. I'll let someone else measure it...
LOL. I couldn't agree more.:)
Timber
08-27-2009, 03:34 PM
The signs at my local course are done. Sun faded beyond reading. How would I go about measuring the hole distance? I own a roller tape, wheel that measures distance. Is it a straight line, tee to basket, or the suggested flight path? I would like to measure, buy some sticky sign numbers, for the signs and post the distances on this web site. Thanks for any info guys.....
Nevermind... =( I just wanted to measure a local 9 hole to update the signs, this site and measure how far I walk.................
Walk it from the tee to the basket on a reasonable flightpath with the wheel and round off to 5 foot increments.
Any "sticky sign numbers" you apply will help other golfers more than nothing at all.
Or just keep chillin' :)
Lewis
08-27-2009, 08:46 PM
If this is a single flight path measure it, if there is not measure the shortest path. Now on holes that have a specific fairway i would measure the center of the fairway to the basket. Same for wooded hole. If there is dogleg this would still apply.
This is how I've done it at a couple of local courses with my reel tape.
prerube
08-27-2009, 08:51 PM
Timber knows his stuff. thats probably why I enjoy the NOVA courses so much
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