Pay for an Ace?

[martinb]

Here's a question about giving your buddy money if he aces a hole while you are playing with him.
would you:

1) pat him on the back and say, "way to go!".

2) give him a dollar.

3) give him 5 dollars.

4) give him the keys to your car, tell him you still owe him a gazillion dollars and will pay him in installments.

The reason im asking what people may think is that some people think its a right and not a privilege to receive money when you ace.
i will personally give a person a dollar if i see him ace, or am playing with that person. if its in a tournament and he is already in the ace pot, then i will pat him on the back and say, "way to go!!!".
ive had situations where the person expected 5$ for the ace and when i give him a dollar he looks at me like i just crapped on him. and then complains to other people about my cheap a$$ attitude.
what do you think???

[timg]

Is this during a casual round?

[Three Putt]

If there is no ace pot and a guy in your group aces, you give him $5.00. If he hits metal, give him a $1.00. If you are not on his card but witnessed the ace, give him a $1.00. If you are not on the card and see him hit metal, tell him "nice shot" when you get close enough to talk to him.

If you are like me and never carry cash, you say, "I'll catch you later," which is a total lie since I'm not going to have any cash on me the next time either. I guess that's why people call me cheap. :(

If there is an Ace pot...no gratuity needed.

[nosajeel99]

I'd buy him a beer.

[Three Putt]

i will personally give a person a dollar if i see him ace, or am playing with that person. if its in a tournament and he is already in the ace pot, then i will pat him on the back and say, "way to go!!!".
ive had situations where the person expected 5$ for the ace and when i give him a dollar he looks at me like i just crapped on him. and then complains to other people about my cheap a$$ attitude.
what do you think???Personally I think the $5.00 thing is pretty steep. Also, all aces are not created equally. When a guy nails a 350 ft shot through trees, I'll feel bad about not having a Lincoln in my pocket. When a guy hits a wide open 170 ft downhill shot, I'm not giving him $5.00 no matter how cheap he thinks I am.

[heelboycraig]

It's pretty bad if the ace thrower is expecting to be rewarded for his shot. This isn't the tooth fairy and we're not 5 years old anymore. If someone wants to buy you a beer, that's the decision of the playing partners. The satisfication of the shot and bragging rights should be the reward itself. But to expect something is pure greed.

[martinb]

Is this during a casual round?

id say most situations would be a casual round, where the person who aces gets bent out of shape when you dont pay him what he expects.
threeputt, yeah i forgot about the dollar for hitting metal, thats come up too, and i think thats excessive. when i started playing a dollar was worth more, so i can understand how people would expect more nowadays but its still not a right to get ANYTHING, imho.
Greed ...... BOOOOO!!! :(

[magictenor1]

I have never even heard of this. I don't play tournaments so maybe this is a tourney thing. Sounds bizarre.

[Rbuzz9]

I'd make him buy a round of drinks - which is the ball golf custom & i'd say the best custom

is the $5.00 thing the DG custom? or is there no custom & its do whatever the hell you want?

[Rbuzz9]

It's pretty bad if the ace thrower is expecting to be rewarded for his shot. This isn't the tooth fairy and we're not 5 years old anymore. If someone wants to buy you a beer, that's the decision of the playing partners. The satisfication of the shot and bragging rights should be the reward itself. But to expect something is pure greed.

i agree - i couldnt imagine going to the ATM before a DGround or keeping a 5 in my bag - for the offhand chance someone scores an ace.

Anyone asking for money gets 0 money from me.

[martinb]

I'd make him buy a round of drinks - which is the ball golf custom & i'd say the best custom

is the $5.00 thing the DG custom? or is there no custom & its do whatever the hell you want?

i hear that in japan when you get a hole in one in ball golf the person who makes the ace has to give gifts to the other players in your group!!! :eek: and if its someone like your boss or a high authority figure the "gift" must be comensurate to their status.

[Huff]

wow, this is ridiculous. If its agreed on by the players before a round, sure why not. But demanding $ from people? wtf.. Now THATS something that I think would hurt the sport;) I think its absolute BS to assume that anyone playing is 'in' on what appears to be a somewhat localized rule?

My friends and I would probably offer an acer in our group a few beers at the bar or maybe pick up a case to share with him or something.

[ptsawyer]

I would ask them how long they have been playing.

If they have been playing 3 years or more, then they would get a high five.

If they have been playing less than 1 year, they get punched in the face.


I have been playing 5 years and have been close, but I have yet to see my first ace. :mad:

[Rbuzz9]

I WANT MY TWO DOLLARS

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/333585275_a68ad1c446.jpg?v=0

[Three Putt]

I have never even heard of this. I don't play tournaments so maybe this is a tourney thing. Sounds bizarre.Actually it is a casual thing, since leagues and tourneys always have ace pots. I'm not sure where it came from, but it is a long-standing tradition.

Disc golf is full of ways for you to owe people money. Competitive guys always want to play for money. I know guys who insist on playing for money no matter when you play them. I've had guys in tournaments want to start a card pool and bet $5.00 a piece to the winner of the card. I used to put my bag tag on my bag, but when I meet other club members they always want to play for tags and insist that we play dollar/dollar/dollar (winner of the front 9 get a dollar from everyone, winner of the back nine gets a dollar from everyone, overall winner gets a dollar from everyone.) I don't mind at all giving up my tag for a higher number when I lose, but I'm cheap and I hate to have to throw in the $3.00 as well. So I just toss my bag tag in a pocket and pretend I don't have it during casual rounds. I have to have it for events, so I'll put it back on then.

[dangitboy]

I always ask before starting the round, "Who's in for 51? ($5 for ace $1 for metal ) That way when the cheap guys hit an ace they don't get anything from me cause they weren't in on 51.

[garublador]

It's never come up, but unless I specifically agree to give money for something at the beginning of the round, you won't be getting anything from me.

[timg]

I've never heard of this either.. I'd think someone was nuts to demand money if it wasn't agreed upon ahead of time. I'd congratulate them on the ace but I would not be compelled to offer them money because they lucked out.

I'd imagine the feeling of hitting an ace would be enough but maybe my motivation for playing the game is a little different.

[tomjulio]

Never heard of the money for ace thing before (unless it's a league and there is pot)...so this just sounds weird. ALTHOUGH,

-if I am playing with a stranger and he aces I give him herpes.
-if it's a friend, well, they already have gotten herpes from me, so a pat on the back will do.

[Rbuzz9]

I think the Ace pot is legit for tourneys. the 5 buck thing seems a little lame/weak - sure i'd probably be in. - I'd never bring it up. But getting 15 bux (or less) for an ace seems sort of forgettable

i think i'd rather get a punch in the face and go out for drinks than get pocket change - at least you'll remember that

[heelboycraig]

-if I am playing with a stranger and he aces I give him herpes.
-if it's a friend, well, they already have gotten herpes from me, so a pat on the back will do.

And that is the gift that keeps on giving, even long after the excitiment of the ace is gone.

[heelboycraig]

I think this thread is a useful tool to know who you should never play a round with. Now you know who's expecting their handout if they hit an ace. The first time someone tries to get money from me for hitting an ace is the first time I charge gas money for driving.

[basmith42]

When I get my first ace, i expect my playing partners to do something very touching and generous for me like call and ambulance because i'm sure I'll have an aneurism.

Then they can spend pool their $5.00 and get me ballons.

Otherwise, i expect nothing but a pat on the back.

[ERicJ]

In Texas this is known as being in the "51 Club", and is very common. Like ThreePutt said any tee shot that aces is paid $5 by everyone else on the card, and any tee shot that hits metal is paid $1 by everyone else on the card. Works in reverse too though: if you hit a "Black Ace", i.e. tee shot into the wrong basket, you owe everyone else on your card $5.

A couple months back I hit my first metal on #12 at The LINKS at Quail Valley (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/../course.php?id=2576), but then had to pay out $1 to another guy who hit metal as well.

Funny story about my first witnessing of an ace...

A few weeks back we're playing in a charity tournament (http://picasaweb.google.com/ericjubin/McDadeCharityTourney) at McDade Park (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=666) sponsored by Wal*Mart to benefit the Children's Miracle Network. It's set up by a bunch of Wal*Mart employees who don't really know what they're doing when it comes to disc golf and the "Ace Pot" was a $5 buy-in. First off that's a little high, Ace Pots are typically $1-$2, but it's potentially for charity so what the heck. But instead of the typical "Ace Pot" that pays out for hitting an ace on any hole, this one was restricted to just #18. Granted it's an easy straight 236' hole, but needless to say not a lot of players bought into $5 for one throw's chance.

The format of the event was a four or five person team scramble with each team playing "best shot" out of the four or five throws. (Yeah, a lot of birdies... winning team was -14.) So my team is on the top "card" playing with the best team in the event headed by local pro Dixon Jowers (http://pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=17583). We get to the 18th hole and Dixon tees off with his trusty Roc. I'd just finished marking the scores on the card from the last hole and look up to see his Roc flying down the fairway and landing perfectly into the basket.

Dixon hadn't paid for the formal Ace Pot... but with the team format he had eight other players on his card each paying him $5 for "51 Club". I think he probably made out better with that than the real deal.

ERic

P.S. I then got to watch him Sharpie his Roc to mark it's seventh ace.

[jdawg24]

Here in Atlanta the $5 for ace and $1 for metal (basket and above) is standard...casual or tourney round. You wouldn't get called out for not paying, but you would be thought of as cheap by not paying

Not like it happens that often...

[DWill]

I'd make him buy a round of drinks - which is the ball golf custom & i'd say the best custom


+1

I don't know why dg is different, especially since it's easier to do and more frequently done than ball golf.

[t i m]

I echo the statement on the "51 club" -- the only place I've heard the term used frequently is in TX, and it was always announced to see who was in on it when the round started... no hard feelings for those who didn't want in.

depends greatly on the group you are playing with. In other areas of the country, i've never heard this brought up in casual play. and I agree -- in tournaments or minis where an ace pot exists, there is no reason to set up a 51 club on the round, since everyone who wants to has already paid into a bigger pool.

My thoughts: you get to write down a 1 on your scorecard and have bragging rights for the week... no other praise needed. If it's you're buddy who hits the ace, buy him a drink and congratulate him: because he's your friend, not because you are obligated to.

[JR Stengele]

IF disc golf is supposed to be similar to real golf then it is the guy who got the ace that buys a round of drinks. If they are expecting money for making a great shot then they are idiots. This isn't Burger King as I tell my 1st graders, they don't get to have it their way!

[scdg124]

The course I have the most time on is Huntington Beach. When I lived there, there was a large local crowd and a smaller but always present group of 1st timers and casual players. If "Bob" hit an ace and I was there, $1. If "Bob" was with other locals and they came back saying "Bob" hit an ace, $1. But "Bob" nor any of the locals ever expected it from the casual group. And after too many years, I am still trying for number one. :(

[DirtyMittenDG]

Its known with the people I play with that if you get an ace, every one gives you a dollar, nothing for pole or chains though

[Innovadude]

It boils down to local rules.
My dad tried to stay a metal club, with card-carrying members. Sign up and get the card, and you are officially entitled to your 1-5$, and to pay it out too. Members know each other, and it works for a group who often play together and especially at the same park, daily. (Brown Park, Ann Arbor)

[DirtyMittenDG]

(Brown Park, Ann Arbor)

I was planning on going on a lil disc trip to ann arbor, I was for sure going to hudson mills, I was maybe gonna go to "brown park" too. I had "brown park" on my course wish list and now you cant click on it anymore. Does it still exist???

[Innovadude]

Ha..don't bring up painful memories.
Brown park is no more..thanks to the city wanting to change the pond around and add a trail. They are a year behind schedule.

It is however "supposed" to go back in, partially re-designed and re-vamped this fall? or next year..or 2075..or 3506 or whatever! I don't believe it'll ever happen but the steps are in motion..there was a city meeting or will be this month.

[Marv Vega]

I'd call him a lucky bastard and make him buy me a couple of lottery tickets. I'd also probably buy him a beer.

[CBass]

You're there to bear witness to such a feat, they should be so lucky as to call their ace "legitimate"; for you to back up the story-til the end of time- someone should be buying you a drink to say, "thanks for bearing witness to my disc golf greatness", and the obnoxious celebration that follows.

[iDisc]

i would just celebrate. it's a fun sport not a gambling game.

[alteredpov]

Buy him a beer and tell him to shut up... if someone wants to give him a dollar or five fine but i sould in no way be EXPECTED. "Woo Hoo you got an ace" if theres no ace pot then theres no money.

[Riley]

Disc golf is a free or at least inexpensive sport. $1 for an ace is cool. $5 is not cool. And getting paid for hitting metal is ridiculous.

[Disc_Pro]

I'll sign his disc!

[Three Putt]

Slight drift...

My boss threw a fit one time about graffiti on the course. I went out and checked and didn't see anything, so she marched out there with me to show me what she was talking about. A lot of people write aces on the number plates of the DGA baskets, and she saw all the writing on the baskets and had a fit! Of course I knew it was there, but I never considered it vandalism and never thought twice about it.

So...disc golf tradition or common vandalism? I guess it depends on who is looking at it.

...drift off.

[80playedin10states]

vandalism....defacing public/private property is simply vandalism

[timg]

I saw this photo uploaded the other day and thought it was a good idea for people that like to write things on the basket.

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_pics/3314/13e41ac3_m.jpg
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/gallery.php?id=3314&mode=gal

[kerplunk]

We do 1-5 club here in Durham, but it's mostly all locals that know each other and know who else is in the club. If someone that isn't a 1-5er hits an ace I will give them a dollar if I see it, but nothing for metal. I have also heard of doing 1-3-5 for metal-chains-ace, but I think that is going too far.

And signing the basket is technically vandalism, the same way that smoking pot is technically against the law- as in only lame people have a problem with it.

[Roc1Time]

51 thats what I have always heard and have always played it. 5 for an ace and 1 for basket or above.

[kerplunk]

We do $1 for ANY metal, whether it is pole, basket, or chains. Much easier on blind holes cuz you can just listen.

[Roc1Time]

I saw this photo uploaded the other day and thought it was a good idea for people that like to write things on the basket.

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_pics/3314/13e41ac3_m.jpg
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/gallery.php?id=3314&mode=gal

Thats great if people actually used it but I have seen a trend that is growing by the way, that now they sign the tee sign, pad, and baskets. WTF???? I have been playing for almost 8 years and have never noticed it till bout a year ago. Why do people do this? It is dumb a$$ $hit and it makes the parks look like it too. Cities arent going to put courses in the ground if people are going to write things all over the place.

[Dillon_Gourley]

We have metal signs by the basket posted to trees or some where in the area of the basket to sign your name.

[80playedin10states]

so only "lame" people have a problem with defacing property?...guess i am lame..how bout i sign my name on your car because i like it and hit it with my disc

[ChronoDisc]

the way we play is if anyone aces while we are all playing.... then we all chip in and buy him a dx disc of his choice. there has only been one person to ace.

[roadtripstuff]

I agree that it is nothing more than vandalism. A lot of course have places that you can record your ace. A couple around here have sheets on the bulletin boards at the start of the course. I have also noticed a growing trend where people write on the baskets, signs, and tees. Even saw a hole where someone used the trash can as a place to record their ace. If you want to record it, do it in a designated area, or on your disc like most golfers.

[ERicJ]

And signing the basket is technically vandalism, the same way that smoking pot is technically against the law- as in only lame people have a problem with it.

so only "lame" people have a problem with defacing property?...guess i am lame..how bout i sign my name on your car because i like it and hit it with my disc

Damn... I was gonna post exactly what 80played said... well except for the part about liking his car... and the part about signing my name, instead I'd probably Sharpie on "This used to be your favorite driver, now it's your favorite dented driver. Ha!". Yeah only someone totally lame would have a problem with that.

[DangeRuss]

I think that payment for an ace all depends on what your group has decided upon. My close group of friends that I always play with have a rule that it is 10 bucks for an ace and if by some chance someone doesn't get one that year, (which never happens) it goes up to 20 bucks. It makes it a little more fun except when your the only person who doesn't have an ace and you've already payed out for 6 this year. So it all depends on what your group decides upon. If someone I rarely golf with gets an ace, im certainly not giving him any money.

Side note - You guys think that paying buck for basket and 5 for ace is bad...I once bet my friend 100 dollars he couldnt drive 400 some feet over a pond and land on the other side and he did. I was pissed but Im a man of my word and now have the knowledge never to make a stupid bet again.

[kerplunk]

so only "lame" people have a problem with defacing property?...guess i am lame..how bout i sign my name on your car because i like it and hit it with my disc

Yeah, cuz that's exactly the same thing as signing a piece of metal that is intended to be outdoors. I have no problem with signing benches either- it really isn't hurting anything. Now signing the sign is different, because that likely interferes with the ability to see it.

And it involves way less skill to hit a car. And if you do hit my car with a disc and then sign it, I'm gonna do the same to your face.


Very un-Dude-like of you.

[Roc1Time]

Just shows the mental compacity of people on this site I guess. Are yall 8 years old or maybe 9?

[kerplunk]

Really though folks, what is the harm of someones name and date written on the basket. Does it interfere with its ability to catch discs? Does it make it harder to see? Can the writing even be seen from over 10ft away? If you people need to get your panties in a wad about something, worry about trash and cigarette butts on the course and real vandalism, not someone recording their ace in a manner that has no ill effects on anyone or anything.

[kerplunk]

Just shows the mental compacity of people on this site I guess. Are yall 8 years old or maybe 9?

I'm about 6 months from having a PhD in genetics, have a genetics BS with a 3.8 from Texas A&M (no grade inflation for Aggies), was valedictorian of a class of 200 and a National Merit Scholar. How bout you Mr. mental compacity (I think capacity is what you were going for genius)?

[Roc1Time]

Really though folks, what is the harm of someones name and date written on the basket. Does it interfere with it's ability to catch discs? Does it make it harder to see? Can the writing even be seen from over 10ft away? If you people need to get your panties in a wad about something, worry about trash and cigarette butts on the course and real vandalism, not someone recording their ace in a manner that has no ill effects on anyone or anything.

Its vandalism. And it looks like crap. Get your disc signed and leave the park alone.

[Roc1Time]

I'm about 6 months from having a PhD in genetics, have a genetics BS with a 3.8 from Texas A&M (no grade inflation for Aggies), was valedictorian of a class of 200 and a National Merit Scholar. How bout you Mr. mental compacity (I think capacity is what you were going for genius)?

Look at the big brain on this guy. Do you want a box of hero cookies? Sorry for the typo, and for being an Aggie.

[A.Mutt]

I'm about 6 months from having a PhD in genetics, have a genetics BS with a 3.8 from Texas A&M (no grade inflation for Aggies), was valedictorian of a class of 200 and a National Merit Scholar. How bout you Mr. mental compacity (I think capacity is what you were going for genius)?

oh **** ... I almost peed laughing



and for what its worth ... the car thing was apples to spinach, not even close to a fair comparison.

[jedwards]

I'm about 6 months from having a PhD in genetics, have a genetics BS with a 3.8 from Texas A&M (no grade inflation for Aggies), was valedictorian of a class of 200 and a National Merit Scholar. How bout you Mr. mental compacity (I think capacity is what you were going for genius)?

You can pay for school, but you can't buy class.

[kerplunk]

You can pay for school, but you can't buy class.

I didn't actually pay for school, and neither did my parents. Free ride all the way. And there are a whole lot less classy things than signing a piece of metal. Really people, it is basically harmless and there are way bigger things to be worried about.

And just for the record, I did not sign the metal on any of my aces, as the basket is OUTSIDE and the marker will eventually wear off. Makes more sense to sign the disc, but I have no problem with those that sign the basket.

I may not agree with your way of doing things but I will defend your right to do it if it doesn't hurt anyone else.

[Hamilton]

I'm about 6 months from having a PhD in genetics, have a genetics BS with a 3.8 from Texas A&M (no grade inflation for Aggies), was valedictorian of a class of 200 and a National Merit Scholar. How bout you Mr. mental compacity (I think capacity is what you were going for genius)?

and your point is? book smarts don't keep you from being stupid...and myself having a technical degree (BSME) i would think you would not be so quick to judge someone, then say you were valedictorian of the class of 200...just saying we all make mistakes, and yes, you are acting about 9 years old...

And there are a whole lot less classy things than signing a piece of metal.
i think the class comment was aimed at you bragging about your education and putting the other person down, Mr. PhD...just my .02

[kerplunk]

Its vandalism. And it looks like crap. Get your disc signed and leave the park alone.

Yes, it may look like crap once you get closer than 15ft, although I think it gives the basket character, like good graffiti on an empty wall . But again, you usually cannot even tell if the basket is signed until you get close.

[jedwards]

It's no one's right to break the law.

Funny side note: Actual screen shot of your profile shows your age as "1". Anyone else find this ironic? (see below)

[Hamilton]

It's no one's right to break the law.

Funny side note: Actual screen shot of your profile shows your age as "1". Anyone else find this ironic? (see below)

also states that "kerplunk has not made any friends yet"...sorry couldn't resist that one...

[kerplunk]

and your point is? book smarts don't keep you from being stupid...and myself having a technical degree (BSME) i would think you would not be so quick to judge someone, then say you were valedictorian of the class of 200...just saying we all make mistakes, and yes, you are acting about 9 years old...

I was not saying anyone else was not smart (except maybe Mr. Mental Compacity), only that I am not stupid. And I admit is was overdone, but it really bothers me that people get so worked up over something that has no negative effect on anyone.

[lko102]

Gosh, between Mental Compasity and a guy who graduated 1809 years ago, I don't know who to side with...

[Hamilton]

If i were the hole sponsor for that basket and saw writing all over my 400 dollar investment, i might not be very happy about it...not that i personally have a problem with it, just playing devil's advocate...

[roadtripstuff]

I was not saying anyone else was not smart (except maybe Mr. Mental Compacity), only that I am not stupid. And I admit is was overdone, but it really bothers me that people get so worked up over something that has no negative effect on anyone.

Doesn't hurt anyone except the person who paid really good money for the baskets. Its not about anything other than respect. You didn't pay for them, so just be glad that they allow you to use them in the first place. Be respectful of the people who make it possible for use to play and leave their things they way you find them.

[Roc1Time]

I was not saying anyone else was not smart (except maybe Mr. Mental Compacity), only that I am not stupid. And I admit is was overdone, but it really bothers me that people get so worked up over something that has no negative effect on anyone.

Hey look someone else cant type! My mental compacity figured that out though.

[kerplunk]

Alright, my age being one and having no friends is pretty funny, I can admit that.

And I just want to say, I do not litter and in fact I usually pick up trash, I always call numbers when I find or even buy marked discs, and I am always encouraging people to come play our local doubles. All in all I believe I am a good ambassador for the sport, but it looks like I'm not making any friends on this issue.

[lko102]

Hey look someone else cant type!

lol, karma

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1WaO1OGuwzI/SKlR0ILH2pI/AAAAAAAADlo/k7RE411W_Qg/s400/pot-kettle-black.jpg

[kerplunk]

Hey look someone else cant type! My mental compacity figured that out though.

I can't type, but I'm pretty sure you really thought the word was compacity.

[Roc1Time]

Gosh, between Mental Compasity and a guy who graduated 1809 years ago, I don't know who to side with...

Now thats funny stuff right there. Thanks for the laugh.

[roadtripstuff]

Gosh, between Mental Compasity and a guy who graduated 1809 years ago, I don't know who to side with...

That's hilarious, and boy did this thread get hijacked.

[Roc1Time]

The funny thing is that the word in question has been F'ed up 2 times in the matter of 20 minutes. Where else can you get this kind of laughs for free

[Midnightbiker]

The groups I play in have never really talked about it, but we do have an unwritten rule, that who ever gets an Ace is going to get dinner on us.

[lko102]

The funny thing is that the word in question has been F'ed up 2 times in the matter of 20 minutes. Where else can you get this kind of laughs for free

lol, I didn't even see I typed Compasity. This is why I never call people out on grammar or spelling online. Stupid public school education of mine...:mad:

[John Rock]

Several of us here do the 5150 thing. $5 for an ACE, $1 for chains, and $0.50 for metal (pole, basket, chain hangers, or numberplate). We pay for skip ACES but no other skips. We all know who's in and who's not at the start of the round. A few of us have been doing it for many, many years so we don't even have to acknowledge it prior to the start. Nobody's getting rich off of it, it just adds some excitement. Some of us have it as a standing rule at events we are in together, even if we're not on the same card. We DON'T pay if we're not in the same event as the ACE maker, since there is no way to even it up with your own ACE.

As a side note: We do have a SHORT GAME (putter game) that involves the 5150 rule plus other means of gambling that can really get expensive, or really lucrative, depending on which side of the payoff you're on.

[Roc1Time]

lol, I didn't even see I typed Compasity. This is why I never call people out on grammar or spelling online. Stupid public school education of mine...:mad:

Me too, I made the same mistake. Thats what I get for doing not thinking beforehand and guess what oh well. It did make for a fun half an hour:eek:

[lko102]

Stupid english language...don't make an "S" sound if you don't want to be spelled that way capacity...

[Roc1Time]

Several of us here do the 5150 thing. $5 for an ACE, $1 for chains, and $0.50 for metal (pole, basket, chain hangers, or numberplate). We pay for skip ACES but no other skips. We all know who's in and who's not at the start of the round. A few of us have been doing it for many, many years so we don't even have to acknowledge it prior to the start. Nobody's getting rich off of it, it just adds some excitement. Some of us have it as a standing rule at events we are in together, even if we're not on the same card. We DON'T pay if we're not in the same event as the ACE maker, since there is no way to even it up with your own ACE.

As a side note: We do have a SHORT GAME (putter game) that involves the 5150 rule plus other means of gambling that can really get expensive, or really lucrative, depending on which side of the payoff you're on.

From what I am reading so far....(and yes i think I can do that), it looks like the 51 thing is a Texas thing. Glad I know that for when I travel out of the state. Everyone here plays it as a given and just one of the rules. I would like to know how we came up with it down here and how it hasnt spread. Just wondering

[John Rock]

I play a lot of events in New Mexico (my parents have lived in Albuquerque since 1985), and it's a standard thing there also.

[Roc1Time]

Stupid english language...don't make an "S" sound if you don't want to be spelled that way capacity...

No $hit. With that being said, Im going to get another beer. Just wait the typing will get better!

I play a lot of events in New Mexico (my parents have lived in Albuquerque since 1985), and it's a standard thing there also.

Good to know.

[Nosh]

Really though folks, what is the harm of someones name and date written on the basket. Does it interfere with its ability to catch discs? Does it make it harder to see? Can the writing even be seen from over 10ft away? If you people need to get your panties in a wad about something, worry about trash and cigarette butts on the course and real vandalism, not someone recording their ace in a manner that has no ill effects on anyone or anything.

It may not technically be vandalism but the fact remains it is not your property and not intended to be written on. Would you like someone to write their accomplishments on your front door? Does it interfere with the ability to keep people out? It is about aesthetics. When park property looks like crap it is treated like crap. I don't care that X-player got and ace on Y-day... Yay for you, but I'd rather not see your graffiti scrawled across park property.

Just my opinion.

[ERicJ]

it really bothers me that people get so worked up over something that has no negative effect on anyone.

it is basically harmless and there are way bigger things to be worried about. [...]
I may not agree with your way of doing things but I will defend your right to do it if it doesn't hurt anyone else.

... not someone recording their ace in a manner that has no ill effects on anyone or anything.

I have no problem with signing benches either- it really isn't hurting anything.

I'm curious how you are so sure that no one is harmed by this, there are no ill effect from it, and nothing gets hurt by it.

Have you ever tried to get a new course installed and walked an existing course with the Parks & Rec decision makers only to have them comment on the "graffiti" they see on the baskets must be from the "vandals & hoodlums" that the course is attracting? Then you have to explain that... no, that's actually disc golfers defacing their own course. :(

[roadtripstuff]

I'm curious how you are so sure that no one is harmed by this, there are no ill effect from it, and nothing gets hurt by it.

Have you ever tried to get a new course installed and walked an existing course with the Parks & Rec decision makers only to have them comment on the "graffiti" they see on the baskets must be from the "vandals & hoodlums" that the course is attracting? Then you have to explain that... no, that's actually disc golfers defacing their own course. :(

My sentiments exactly, well said.

[80playedin10states]

by the way, the 51 or 135 isn't from texas...they have been doing that in va beach since the 70's...nice post eric...some people are too hard-headed to understand the basic things in life..i don't care if it is a piece of cardboard you are writing on...if it isn't yours leave it alone..."everything you need to know in life, you learned in kindergarten"..glad i dont live in durham, i would have some fun pulling this guys fist from my face...bring an army lil boy

[NDABRUSH]

If I was a local that had played a certain course every day and after years of playing I finally made my 1st ace, I could understand it. But if I am a out of towner just passing through and I get my first ace there is no way that I whip out a marker or paint brush and go Picasso on there baskets or any other course property. I always thought you were supposed to get whoever saw or heard it to sign the disc. That is what I would prefer. I could see telling my friends about it and saying honest man I finally made an ace. Let's drive a couple of hours and I will prove it to you, I signed the basket just in case no one believed me.

[XxInnovaxX]

where im from it is custom to sign the basket....but i dont believe in that, im a little superstitious, so i just sign the disc instead....and as far as the $ goes, if its just another local im playing with ill give a atta boy, but if its one of my close friends we will buy the other persons meal....or if im broke they get a "way to go" as well

[sportfan187]

whenever my friends and i play a round together, we call it 5and1 which is 5 dollars for the ace and 1 dollar if ya hit the chains or basket.
got this idea a long time ago when i played in a tournament when a guy suggested it for our group and every tournament since, my group has always done this.

still waiting on my first ace...............i did have a dream a couple of weeks ago getting my first ace, so hopefully thats a good sign. its gonna be nuts if it happens on the same hole as my dream. hole 5 on my home course(olathe, ks)

[LStephens]

I never accept cash from my group for aces...but I do jokingly accept quarters for hitting metal. Metal for metal...aka...a quarter for hitting metal is a fun gesture...expecting anything...much less a dollar for hitting metal is absurd. On Wednesday night doubles a few of us will play quarter CTP made up 300 ft holes...targets being a tree, power pole, some kind of plastic poles..and a BBQ grill...all in a circle...CTP gets a quarter...I'm not very good...but the other day I emptied my bag trying to figure out why it weighed so much..and ended up buying an $89 pair of Merrel Cameleons EVO GTX and still had enough change left over to buy a mtn dew 12 pack.

So...a Quarter for metal is all fun...but anyone expecting casual payout for a bad shot that luckily went into chains....because most aces are over powered shots that just happen to get lucky....anyone expecting cash for that can kiss my ace.

[80playedin10states]

lol...love it when someone who has never hit an ace calls it a bad shot...too funny

[Roc1Time]

lol...love it when someone who has never hit an ace calls it a bad shot...too funny

I second that

[Roc1Time]

The guys I play with down here always play for money. Sometimes we play dollar skins, sometimes five dollar overall, wolf, whatever. Just seems to bring a little more excitment into the game. When the pot gets big, either in skins or if there are 4 or 5 guys playing overall, then you start feeling a little pressure and I think that helps us all in our tournament play. At least I know it does for me, a little 30 or 35 footer is a lot easier in a tourney when you have hit the same putt for 20 bucks or sometimes more the day before. Just my 2 cents though, well and I guess the guys I play with.

[LStephens]

lol...love it when someone who has never hit an ace calls it a bad shot...too funny

I know we aren't talking about my posts...I've hit 5 this year alone...and only one of them was I trying for the Ace..the rest were bad shots that hit chains and stayed. Hole #9 at Idlewild was called before the throw though...with two witnesses.

[RallySoob]

kick your buddy in the nuts for me... and tell him he owes me $5

[80playedin10states]

who cares whose post it was...it was someone who hasnt had an ace...do you fit this category? no, you just want to run your mouth some more...how the hell is an ace run a bad shot? sorry if 20' putts scare you

[TalbotTrojan]

In a tournament with no Ace pot, okay, pay the guy. Otherwise, don't look at me for being a cheap skate, I am stinking poor, at least for America.

[kerplunk]

Yes, it may look like crap once you get closer than 15ft, although I think it gives the basket character, like good graffiti on an empty wall . But again, you usually cannot even tell if the basket is signed until you get close.

I just went and played a round (-9 with 3 discs, but at Cornwallis regs for those who know it), and after talking to my friend and partaking in other DG activities I changed my mind. People should not sign the baskets. Here is my new logic:

The baskets are public (usually), which means they belong to everyone. Thus, while I might not mind my portion of the basket being signed, the majority of you would rather it not, so others should respect your wishes and not sign it. That being said, when I own my own course I will encourage basket signing on aces.

Sorry for being a bit of a d-bag, and for the thread jack. Now you know why I don't have any friends :D

Back to the thread topic, we also do 5-1 here in Durham, North Carolina.

[kerplunk]

lol...love it when someone who has never hit an ace calls it a bad shot...too funny

That's kinda BS. There are lots of really good players who have been playing for years and never hit an ace, and I have been playing for less than 2 and hit 3. Poor logic again 80played. No offense.

[LStephens]

...how the hell is an ace run a bad shot? sorry if 20' putts scare you

An ace run is not a bad shot if that is your intention...however...in most cases...in holes over 250ft...if the ace didn't hit chains you are looking at a nice 50+ft come back shot.

20 foot putts are gimmie's for me...30 foot...not so gimmie...but 25' and in should be money.

But I think we are playing the course from two different mindsets...I play tournaments and all my casual rounds are militantly played by PDGA rules. I use my mini, call myself on OB, play from the shule, and hole out on every putt...even when I'm the only one out there...because I have to keep that mindset....most people here seem to be playing casual rounds with friends...and I understand that...and I'm happy they enjoy playing disc golf and hope they promote the sport to their friends.

[Roc1Time]

That's kinda BS. There are lots of really good players who have been playing for years and never hit an ace, and I have been playing for less than 2 and hit 3. Poor logic again 80played. No offense.

So I guess you think an ace/ace run is a bad shot?

[kerplunk]

So I guess you think an ace/ace run is a bad shot?

Check the other thread about respect. I'm not smart enough to link things. Basically, bad shot for tourney play, good shot for casual play.

[Roc1Time]

Check the other thread about respect. I'm not smart enough to link things. Basically, bad shot for tourney play, good shot for casual play.

I kind of agree with that. I play for birds alot more in tourneys then running at aces, unless Im way out of it or way ahead, like I was this last weekend. I still wouldnt call it a bad shot. It cant be that bad if you hit what your trying to hit.

[ERicJ]

I just went and played a round (-9 with 3 discs, but at Cornwallis regs for those who know it), and after talking to my friend and partaking in other DG activities I changed my mind. People should not sign the baskets. Here is my new logic:

The baskets are public (usually), which means they belong to everyone. Thus, while I might not mind my portion of the basket being signed, the majority of you would rather it not, so others should respect your wishes and not sign it. That being said, when I own my own course I will encourage basket signing on aces.

Sorry for being a bit of a d-bag, and for the thread jack. Now you know why I don't have any friends :D

Back to the thread topic, we also do 5-1 here in Durham, North Carolina.

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[humchris85]

If there is no ace pot and a guy in your group aces, you give him $5.00. If he hits metal, give him a $1.00. If you are not on his card but witnessed the ace, give him a $1.00. If you are not on the card and see him hit metal, tell him "nice shot" when you get close enough to talk to him.

If there is an Ace pot...no gratuity needed.

I agree if it's a tourny, if your playing cassual $1 for an ace is acceptable.

[80playedin10states]

kerplunk you make no sense and bragging about a -9 at cornwallis is like bragging about taking candy from a baby..name someone who everyone knows that has no aces and is a good player...an ace isnt a bad shot, it is a good shot with some luck..

[kerplunk]

kerplunk you make no sense and bragging about a -9 at cornwallis is like bragging about taking candy from a baby..name someone who everyone knows that has no aces and is a good player...an ace isnt a bad shot, it is a good shot with some luck..

That is why I said "BUT at Cornwallis regs"= not bragging.

And I don't know any good players with no aces, but I know there are plenty on DGCR with no aces that might consider themselves good. Are you saying they aren't?

[Eagle]

I'll sign the persons disc, if I see them ace.

"51" is a common game played on a lot of courses. The problem is that a lot of people won't pay up when you hit metal, and especially when you ace. When everyone has agreed to 51, and then people don't pay up, it just creates animosity and takes the fun out of playing.

Personally....I'd rather play skins, than 51.

[jwk0522]

being a college student, I dont have the money to give someone for getting an ace, but it would be nice to be able to expect money everytime I aced a hole