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colodiscgolfer
09-08-2009, 03:42 AM
So my wife got way more interested in disc golf today after the ace race and playing a round with some of the ladies from Mile High Disc Golf. She wants to play and learn a lot more, and now also wants to caddy for me in the upcoming Johnny Roberts Memorial Tournament (my biznitch is the schiznit! :cool: ). I am not really sure what all this would entail besides toting around my disc bag. Perhaps picking up my marker disc, and maybe clearing my disc from the basket? I really just don't know what a caddy is allowed to do at a tourney, or what other things they might be expected to do. Also, should I tip her at the end of a round? :p Is $5 enough? I hope I'm on my game in this tourney because I'd hate to have to send her into the creek fishing around for a disc...
mmyersdisc
09-08-2009, 09:55 AM
lol i think they just give you advice and carry your bag around...never heard of one picking up your mini and clearing the basket because YOU are supposed to do that...as far as tipping her...im sure you could think of something else other then money ;)
cydisc
09-08-2009, 10:05 AM
lol i think they just give you advice and carry your bag around...never heard of one picking up your mini and clearing the basket because YOU are supposed to do that...as far as tipping her...im sure you could think of something else other then money ;)
There's no rule that says you have to clear your own putt.
I've used a caddy on a couple of occasions. The one time I cashed with one on the bag, I tipped 10% of my winnings.
I've also caddied for others. My duties have included carrying the bag, presenting the bag so the player can select his own disc, cleaning discs as the player hands them back to me and replacing them in the appropriate location in the bag. I also will give some advice when asked for it, pointing out different routes and judging distance and wind.
Marty McFly
09-08-2009, 11:27 AM
Clean discs and look pretty.
repeat.
colodiscgolfer
09-08-2009, 12:42 PM
I hope everyone realizes I was half kidding with my post; the tipping, fishing discs out of the creek, etc... I really just don't know what the rules are for caddies at a tourney.
Marty McFly
09-08-2009, 01:07 PM
What about make sandwiches? Everyone loves those things.
sidewinder22
09-08-2009, 01:08 PM
Im not sure, but I think you mark your disc. I've not seen a ball golf caddy ever mark someone's lie. I would also clear your own putt, not seen a caddy in ball golf do that either.
Basically just make sure she doesn't get in the way of other players and stays still and quiet when others are up.
BogeyNoMore
09-08-2009, 01:26 PM
Just be careful there Colo...
Let's say you do really well, and finnish near the top - people might think she's a good luck charm, and want to hire her out as a caddy for their next tourney. I'm just guessing, but I'm thinking you don't want that...
Then again if you do poorly, you risk her running off with with the winner, and you probably don't want that either...
So, you need to finish near the top to keep her respect, but not so high as to arouse suspicion as to how much luck she'll bring to the golfer.;)
cydisc
09-08-2009, 01:42 PM
I had a caddy that bought beer for the group afterwards.
mmyersdisc
09-08-2009, 01:43 PM
lol I was trying to get my girl to caddie...she sorta did...but I carried my bag haha...she more or less was just there to keep me calm and what not lol then sat in her truck the 2nd round lol
jhgonzo
09-08-2009, 01:49 PM
Maybe someone could clarify this for me...
I was playing a tourney a few years back, and one of the guys in our group had his son caddying for him (just a little 10- or 11-year-old carrying his bag, no advice on shots or disc selection). Anyways, another guy in our group was kind of a rule dick (this was Rec division) and would call everything he possibly could like we were vying for the title of world champ, and on one hole we're waiting at the tee for another group and the guy's son takes out a putter and starts throwing it high in the air, catching it, and doing this for a couple tosses, when Rule Richard proclaims, "You're responsible for your caddy's actions, and technically every time he throws a disc, it's a stroke for you...I'm not gonna make you take the strokes, but just so you know." So this kid/caddy ends up getting really embarrassed (and unable to play a little catch to ease his boredom, to boot!) and spends the rest of the round quiet just carrying his dad's bag.
I've scoured my PDGA rule book, even asked at other tourneys, and have been unable to get a solid answer on this...but I think the dude was just making it up 'cause he wasn't having the greatest round and got more thrills out of watching for foot faults, falling putts, and apparently caddy violations/stroke penalties.
TalbotTrojan
09-08-2009, 02:36 PM
I am not sure about the caddy throwing discs rules. That seems a little silly if you ask me. Now if he threw a disc back to his caddy and it traveled more than 2 meters that is a practice throw and a penalty. Even throwing the mini back to the caddy and having it go more than two meters is a practice throw and penalty.
Colo, so you know, you will see me using my dad as my caddy at Johnny Roberts and the worst thing that I have gotten teased about in the past is the unfair advantage of not having to carry my own discs but there is nothing against it in the rule book.
I once sent my dad to look for a disc that I threw out of bounds because I knew that I would not find it quickly. He caught up with me after a couple of holes with my disc, and another one that he found. At Johnny the water is really not deep enough to be strapped for time so the fishing the disc out may not be a problem. I would still pick up your own minis and clear your own discs from the basket. Also the advice thing is key if the caddy knwos what they are doing. In a tournament I played out in So Cal one of the top Ams out there was injured and caddied for his wife who was in my group in the first round (One of my favorite rounds ever, mostly because I had a really good conversation with this guy). He knew enough to give great advice and yet it was still up to his wife to make the decision. I was able to ask him questions after the fact that have helped my game out to this day, particularly with shot selection. I have seen pros and top ams use the caddy for advice more so that they know what shot they are throwing and are less likely to second guess themselves.
Look forward to seeing you at Johnny Roberts, hopefully I will have your white Force in tow.
cydisc
09-08-2009, 02:50 PM
You are responsible for the actions of your caddy, but only in terms of behavior. If the kid was causing a distraction to other players, the player would be warned/penalized the same if he had done it himself.
TalbotTrojan
09-08-2009, 03:18 PM
You are responsible for the actions of your caddy, but only in terms of behavior. If the kid was causing a distraction to other players, the player would be warned/penalized the same if he had done it himself.
So does that apply to throwing a disc? I would guess not.
sidewinder22
09-08-2009, 05:16 PM
If its your disc that was thrown, wouldn't you be responsible for it, since you're responsible for your caddy's actions. I've heard that just throwing a disc in the air 2 meters and catching it is a stroke.
Keokuk Discer
09-08-2009, 06:28 PM
There's no rule that says you have to clear your own putt.
Actually under the interference rules 803.07 B, if your caddy moves a disc at rest (which a disc in the entrapment area would be) it must be replaced and you could be stroked for the caddy's interference under 803.07 C.
Keokuk Discer
09-08-2009, 06:33 PM
Maybe someone could clarify this for me...
I was playing a tourney a few years back, and one of the guys in our group had his son caddying for him (just a little 10- or 11-year-old carrying his bag, no advice on shots or disc selection). Anyways, another guy in our group was kind of a rule dick (this was Rec division) and would call everything he possibly could like we were vying for the title of world champ, and on one hole we're waiting at the tee for another group and the guy's son takes out a putter and starts throwing it high in the air, catching it, and doing this for a couple tosses, when Rule Richard proclaims, "You're responsible for your caddy's actions, and technically every time he throws a disc, it's a stroke for you...I'm not gonna make you take the strokes, but just so you know." So this kid/caddy ends up getting really embarrassed (and unable to play a little catch to ease his boredom, to boot!) and spends the rest of the round quiet just carrying his dad's bag.
I've scoured my PDGA rule book, even asked at other tourneys, and have been unable to get a solid answer on this...but I think the dude was just making it up 'cause he wasn't having the greatest round and got more thrills out of watching for foot faults, falling putts, and apparently caddy violations/stroke penalties.
The guy was correct. A practice throw is a throw in any direction of more than 2 meters or of any distance toward the target. It sounds like the guy was doing you a favor so that it doesn't happen when a real rules-nazi plalys on your card. This is why you should always hand disc to people at tournaments.
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