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09-15-2008, 11:16 AM
Iíve been enjoying this website ever since I found it a few weeks ago, and Iíve posted some reviews of the courses that I normally play. But today Iím coming to the site for some advice.
I have a disc that needs replacing and Iím not sure what to replace it with. I have a Ching Stinger, and Iíve been very happy with it. when I release a backhand as flat as I can it starts off straight and then starts floating left (I should state Iím a left handed thrower) like itís going to helix but it never fades back to the right for me. This comes in really handy for me on holes that make left turns. From what I can tell Ching does not make this disc anymore. what could I get to replace it? I can just put a little bit of an up angle on the disc to get it to turn like that but it takes a lot of power out of my throw so I donít seem to get the distance I can with the Stinger.
any help would be much appreciated.
09-15-2008, 12:35 PM
The new Innova Champion Monarch will do the shot you are referring to, as long as you have the right weight and you don't throw it too fast, but it's a driver and I think you want a mid-range. For Mid-range a DX Cobra would work.
If you have an Academy Sporting Goods store in your area they sell monarchs for $12.99.
09-15-2008, 12:35 PM
I remember the Tank, Sniper and Bomb really well. I'm drawing a blank on the Stinger. All the Ching discs were variations on an Innova disc, and as I recall the Stinger had thumtrac. I think the disc it was a variation of was the Puma, which does you no good since the Puma is also OOP. However, what you are describing is an understable mid that will flip and not come back. The Innova Wolf might be a bit longer than the Stinger, but once you beat it up some it should turn and stay turned. There are other discs like a Discraft Stratus or the Innova Stingray that will also do that once they are beat in, but they are more driver-like. So I'd say start with a Wolf, then look around at other understable mid-range discs if it does not work out.
Be careful of weight. Generally lighter weight discs are easier to execute a turnover shot with. Also don't get impatient. For me a really good turnover disc is a beat-up old disc, so it is hard for me to take a new disc out of the box and be happy with it as a turnover disc. You may need to work with it for awhile before it becomes as dependable as your old Stinger.
Thanks for clarifying the lefty thing, BTW. It is a big help
09-15-2008, 12:40 PM
The new Innova Champion Monarch will do the shot you are referring to, as long as you have the right weight and you don't throw it too fast.The Stinger was a tweener-kind of in between an approach and a midrange. The Monarch will be a completely different animal, much faster and longer than the disc he is referring to. He didn't really clarify the distance he was talking about, and most of you folks are not going to know what kind of a disc a Stinger is. So for future reference, he is talking about replacing a Speed 3 or 4 turnover midrange disc.
09-15-2008, 01:08 PM
thanks for the input guys. i wasn't sure what to compare it to.
i grew up playing frisbee golf with the big ol' ultimate frisbees. then a friend got me into disc golf and i got a set of Ching discs. the set was: Tank, Stinger, Sniper, Bomb. most of the discs have either been damaged or lost. the only two i still use are the sniper, and the stinger. they are both starting to look pretty ragged so i started looking for replacements.
it's really hard to replace discs that i have had for so long and used so much. i'm not sure what i'll do when i loose these.
you've given me some ideas, thanks guys.
09-15-2008, 01:52 PM
If you need to replace a Bomb, a Millennium EXP1 is the closest. Both of them are less stable variations of the Innova Banshee, so you could get a lighter DX Banshee to fill that slot as well.
The Tank is a small-bead Rhyno. Beat up a Rhyno and it can get close to a Tank. Again, get it in DX, and lighter will help.
The Sniper is a problem. It is a beadless Gremlin, and the Gremlin is OOP. It is a mid-range with a driver-type design like a Panther, but it was a lot more stable than a Panther. Maybe a heavy Champ Panther? It might feel similar in the hand, but I'm not sure how it will do flight-wise. Your Sniper has to be thrashed at this point, so maybe you will not notice a lot of difference flight wise to a Panther. I don't know, grasping at straws. The Cro has the same flight rating numbers as a Gremlin, so maybe a Cro will work? Maybe a Spider? If you are used to a beat up Sniper, I'm afraid those would seem really stable in comparison.
I'm sure you know this, but the fastest, longest disc on the market when the Ching discs were out was a Discraft XL. There are dozens and dozens of faster, longer discs out there now like the Monarch that was mentioned before. If you have not been throwing these really fast discs, they take some work to get used to
Anyway, it has been a long time since I've seen those old Ching discs. I hope you find some good discs to replace them with.
09-15-2008, 02:28 PM
not too familiar with understable slower discs - as far as slower discs go - overstable ones seem to be more en vogue these days (PIG / RHYNO)
i think the stratus may be a bit fast for what you're looking for - i'd go with that tho - good roller good anhyzer ability.
i'm a LH
the monarch is definitely faster than the sniper - but it will keep going left - good for annys
09-15-2008, 02:48 PM
i don't like to take to many discs out with me when i go. i've got a 8 disc bag so i stick with what fits in that.
whats in the bag? Firebird, Starfire, 150 Wraith, Sniper, Roc, Stinger, some putter that i don't know what it it but i like it, and a Frisbee "S" driver. i just added the Roc to see how it does. i may take out the starfire and put my old whippet back in.
whats left in the trunk? 2 cyclones, a J-bird, another putter, whippet, cobra, shark, and a few others that i can't think of.
09-15-2008, 03:00 PM
cobra, shark, Either of those might work for that shot, too.
09-15-2008, 04:01 PM
If your looking for something understable, a roadrunner or sidewinder would work well.
09-15-2008, 04:03 PM
For midrange I recommend a cobra. Preferably champion.
09-15-2008, 05:40 PM
I am going to float with Three-Putt and say try that Discraft Stratus.
If you have to go with Innova, try the Stingray.
09-15-2008, 06:07 PM
Champion cobras have always been my favorite. I get more distance than from a stingray or stratus.
09-16-2008, 02:24 AM
You might try a lightning #3 flyer. It is a midrange disc that turns over. I used to use on for my turnover approach shots, but it got too beat in and would turn too much. I gave it to my son now and he seems to do pretty well with it.
09-16-2008, 04:24 AM
I'll throw the Innova Skeeter in the hat. It's a midrange-appproach that'll turn over and not come back with any kind of power behind it.
09-16-2008, 08:13 AM
lots of suggestions guys, thanks. i'm going to order a couple discs and see what one i like best.
09-16-2008, 10:33 AM
according to the marshall street flightguide http://www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.com/disc_golf_flightguide.html
- the innova Wolf and Sonic are the most understable slow/approach discs
11-10-2008, 06:10 PM
Gotta be the Stingray, the most Understable mid there is, and its super slow and floaty, I think they list it as maximum glide, and when I throw an Annie it looks like a slow motion replay...
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