Analyze This! What You Carry and Why

[Donovan]

(Got this idea from Three-Putt) So here is the gig:

List here what discs you carry normally and how you use them and see if others have suggestions or comments to help you with your weapons of choice. Obviously knowing your max distance will help with how your speed of throwing some. This is for fun, because you still have to like what you throw, but I am sure it will be very interesting to see what others think.

Starting it off:

Max distance is around 320' at 100% throw but I am at 250' main distance at my 75% throw for both RHBH and FH, and only 100' thumber/hammer up and over obstacles (frustrating).

Discwing Quarter K II (RHBH long driver)
Innova Champion Sidewinder (almost any shot needed that requires length BH & FH)
Discraft Supercolor Spectra (gradual guarenteed turn BH and FH)
Innova Pro Wraith/Discwing Quarter K (hard turn disc BH & FH)
(can't decide here, but been leaning on the Wraith due availability and I throw the Wraith FH better)
Innova Champion Tee-bird (long straight BH)
Discraft X-Elite Stratus/Innova Classic Roc (BH mid/long straight and all approaches, Stratus disc I can make turn any direction I intend BH, I also notice it can be a great roller, if I can just get the timing down a little better.)
(keep switching these around too, but leaning toward Stratus after learning the breaking in factor of the Roc)
Gateway (SS & SSS) Magic Putters (love them)
Aerobie Epic (carry this now and then for the thumber, but if I don't have one, I have been using the Wraith, maybe there is a better choice for my short distance.)

Currently testing the Discraft Slipstream GT and Latitude 64 Vision for long driver. (really stating to like the Slipstream)



I am sure there is more info that can be used, but hey any advice is something learned no matter if it is about 1 disc or the whole bag. Can't weight to see what you think AND especially what you carry!

Let's debate about this stuff and have some fun with it. :cool:

[Three Putt]

Max distance is around 320' at 100% throw but I am at 250' main distance at my 75% throw for both RHBH and FH, and only 100' thumber/hammer up and over obstacles (frustrating).

Discwing Quarter K II (RHBH long driver)
Innova Champion Sidewinder (almost any shot needed that requires length BH & FH)
Discraft Supercolor Spectra (gradual guarenteed turn BH and FH)
Innova Pro Wraith/Discwing Quarter K (hard turn disc BH & FH)
(can't decide here, but been leaning on the Wraith due availability and I throw the Wraith FH better)
Innova Champion Tee-bird (long straight BH)
Discraft X-Elite Stratus/Innova Classic Roc (BH mid/long straight and all approaches, Stratus disc I can make turn any direction I intend BH, I also notice it can be a great roller, if I can just get the timing down a little better.)
(keep switching these around too, but leaning toward Stratus after learning the breaking in factor of the Roc)
Gateway (SS & SSS) Magic Putters (love them)
Aerobie Epic (carry this now and then for the thumber, but if I don't have one, I have been using the Wraith, maybe there is a better choice for my short distance.)

Currently testing the Discraft Slipstream GT and Latitude 64 Vision for long driver. (really stating to like the Slipstream)You say the Wraith and Quarter K give you a "hard turn" RHBH, but you also say you can "turn" the stratus either direction. So I'm wondering how you define the term "turn." To me, "turn" for a RHBH throw is a disc that flips and goes right. If the disc turns left for a RHBH it is called "fade." Based on your description I'd assume that your Wraith and Quarter K are fading hard left, but it would help if you could clarify that. A lot of what I'd suggest would be based on that.

[PhattD]

Ok here goes my distances seem pretty close to Donovan's 320' is about my max 300' is more what I cahit consistently with 100% power and 250' is right about where I switch from full power midrange to soft driver. And my thumber distance is about 160'-180' I need 200' to birdie #15 at Grand Woods :(

So main Drivers:
170 Champ Monarch good for straight distance and subtle hyzer flips.
165 Exlite X Wildcat Hyzer flips uphill sots and downwind drives.
171 Elite Z Surge Upwind drives and other shots that need to go left.
170 Champ Valk This one seems to be good for me when I have to got straight out 270'-280' then
stop and turn left. lol seems like an awfully specific shot but I need it on a few holes out here.
173 Elite Z Cyclone Actually preferElite X on this one but I lost it. Good for drives that start rightand
hold the line the whole way.
175 Elite Z Wasp Just learning this disc but basically use it when I wanna chuck a mid-range hard and
don't want it to flip on me.
174 Pro D Buzzz Straight shots that finish left.
178 Elite X Stratus Much like Donovan this disc goes where I tell it to. ( as long as I throw it right,
there are no trees in the way, and no one breaths during my run up)
174 Pro D soft Magnet Umm Putting. :D

[PhattD]

So should this thread be under Equipment since we are talking about the equipment we carry? Or should it be under strategy because we are discussing the strategy of what we are carrying? "Shut up your being too Anal!!" " Oh ok sorry... Bye now" :D

[mmmatt]

Well, I might as well take a crack at this. My consistent distance is about 250' with max around 300' (without elevation/trees). I mostly use forehand with drivers and mids.

Champ Wraith 175: Bread & Butter shot, used for most tee shots, some upshots.
Champ Orc 171: Testing for a little extra distance. Sometimes I can get it to work, sometimes not. It'll probably be better once I've seasoned it a bit.
Champ Teebird 171: Shorter shots, long upshots, or ones that require less fade than the wraith. Also some anhyzer (FH) shots and occasionally a BH shot.
ESP Force 171: A big meathook. If I need something to hook right consistently and heavily, this is what I go to. Basically, I don't have enough power for it.
Star Xcaliber 171: Unless I'm really fresh (first few holes), I don't have the power for this one either. Considering taking this one out of my bag.
Champ Valk 167: BH shots mostly. Lately I've been experimenting with FH turnover shots with it with mixed results.
Elite Z Talon 167: This is my trick shot driver. My hammers are terrible, but I can manage to simulate one with this disc. Released high and severely anny, it'll almost always turn & come back generally landing straight ahead.
Elite Z Buzzz 174: Go-to mid-range.
Ace Race 2008 Disc 175: This is the midrange that'll hold any line, so I use it mostly for the anhyzer BH/FH shots
4 types of Wizards: Soft - approaches and main putter; Supersoft - For the colder months it holds the chains better than the soft; SSS - downhill putts or putts on the side of a hill. It doesn't go anywhere.; Organic - Recently purchased. Seems to be in between a soft and supersoft and I've really been liking it for putts.

[Rbuzz9]

ill give it a shot -LHFH off the tee - i have sort of given up on the ultra long distance BH drives for the moment - can get 300 feet on a good BH drive - but my form etc still isnt there so there is a lot of inconsistency - but i still have a whole bunch of discs i'll only use for BH drives that dont get much play.

171 Star Xcal - max distance FH drives with room for highspeed turn
171 Z Flick - straight FH drives - the zero glide makes for less chance of veering off course - it bombs out staight and fast then falls quite quickly - very predictable
171 Star Destroyer - FH drives with wind at back or FH flick drives as disc will turn over when throwing full sidearm power - hard to throw full power sidearm with hyzer
172 DX Destroyer - use it for nothing - was an experiment to see how a DX destroyer will fly compared to the Star - it turns over all the time
171 Pro Firebird - shorter straight Forehand flick drives released with hyzer - can get some surprising distance - but turns over if get too much behind it

170-172 ish Champ Orc / Beast / FLX Surge / ESP Rogue - all BH drives - whatever i feel like
the beast turns over easily so usually won't use that
Sometimes i'll use the Orc or any of these for a forehand flick - but need ALOT of room to account for a huge S curve

171 Star Roadrunner - low longer tunnel shots - not great at throwing it

171 Champ monarch - left hand turning shots / anhyzers

175 X/Z/FLX Buzzz just about everything midrange - shorter drives -FLX good in the woods - trying to beat in the X also

175 Wasp - still getting the hang - the Buzzz's are all i need now

black X stratus - rollers / slower straight shots / left hand turns

2 Organic Wizards - putting / approach - these are new so getting the hang especially with approaches - they dont turn very much despite their "overstableness" they tend to drop down since they dont glide very much

Super Puppy - 100' Putts / some approaches - straight flying disc

[Donovan]

You say the Wraith and Quarter K give you a "hard turn" RHBH, but you also say you can "turn" the stratus either direction. So I'm wondering how you define the term "turn." To me, "turn" for a RHBH throw is a disc that flips and goes right. If the disc turns left for a RHBH it is called "fade." Based on your description I'd assume that your Wraith and Quarter K are fading hard left, but it would help if you could clarify that. A lot of what I'd suggest would be based on that.

Sorry I did me those fade hard for me.

[DGtourist]

Good idea Donovan
I carry

DGA Rouge for bombing open holes. I love this disc, anyone else try this one yet? Its demmanding in that the only way to throw it is, big.
A wraith which is being phased out by the ROuge
150g champ valk. for easy fairway drives, when no wind present.
167 Champ Beast for holding a tight line and spkie hyzer, plus I play with a light attached to it at night.
162g Champ Orc for controled hyzer, my go to disc.
172 impact for approach
put'r X for hitting birds
Road runner for running out annies as needed, this shot, I've been working on all summer and have finally gotten to a point where I can control it, also for rollers.
I also carry a floater (hydra)

I would like a good hammer disc, any opinions, my hammer goes out about 50feet snaps over and then flies to about 200 feet to the target and comes down from from left to right about ten feet.

Any other shots/disc you guys think I would need to work on and/or try?

[shirfan]

Here's what I'm using right now. I throw LHBH for every shot unless obstacles demand otherwise, and normally place drivers out 250ish, 300 if accuracy can suffer.

172 Star Wraith - hyzers or heavy right fades only.

171 DX Teebird - max distance drives.

168 DX TL - straightaway and placement drives. My go-to disc off the tee.

169 Pro Leopard - turnover disc. It's getting way too squirrely, and is being phased out by a 170 Champ Leopard (but only the pro will go ridiculously left, so I still carry it)

172 Star Shark - all midrange shots that I don't want to use a putter for. My workhorse. Can also be thrown off the tee for shorter holes.

A pair of 175 Soft Magnets, one beat in understable, one fresh. Layups, especially when the disc needs to stay where it lands. Also used out to about 150' on woodsy holes, because they tend to drop on tree impact rather than ricocheting deeper into the forest.

And lastly, a 172 Lightning #2 Driver. Bought for floating capabilities, I soon decided that it completely sucks for drives... but works great for "must make" putts. Very grippy but stiff plastic.

[sidewinding]

Max Fade Drives - Champion XCaliber
Medium Fade Drives - Champion Destroyer - Have thrown it about 360'
Minimal fade drives - Champion Wraith - Have thrown it about 375'
Straight Drives - Champion Beast - Have thrown it abut 340'
Minimal turnover drives - Champion Monarch - Have s-turned it about 400'
Max turnover drives - Champion Sidewinder - Have rolled it about 450'
I had a KC Pro Teebird that I used for 250' - 300' fairway drives but I lost it.
All shots under 250' - DX First Run Skeeter - will turn over if I try throw it 280'
Putter - DX XD

I had a Quest Tbone that was awesome. It was replaced by the beast but as soon as I get another one it will go back in the bag and the beast will come out. It is a super gliding straight distance driver.

[discinator]

I throw RHBH and RHFH depending on what the hole requires.

167 Star Teerex very beat in for my nice s curve drives. My max distance is about 325'. This is my longest disc.
150 DX Teebird for downwind and low long tunnel shots
168 Champ Leopard for shorter control drives that I need to finish straight.
165 Champ Roadrunner for turn over drives.
180 DX shark fairly beat in for a mid turn over disc.
169 KC Pro Roc for any line- this is one of my most used discs.
169 Champ spider
177 & 169 New 2008 Discraft ACE Race disc: I just got this disc and am impressed so far. It is a little overstable, but once its seasoned a little is gonna be one of those discs that rival a Roc for me. It is a little faster and longer than the roc for me, but it is still tough to turn it over and keep it on that line.
175 SS Magic for the putter.

[tomjulio]

I use only a Polecat...for everything.
even have quad straps for it.
just saying

[Three Putt]

Sorry I did me those fade hard for me.I think you should spend less time working on disc golf and more time with your "English as a second language" course. :p

[Three Putt]

(Got this idea from Three-Putt) So here is the gig:

List here what discs you carry normally and how you use them and see if others have suggestions or comments to help you with your weapons of choice. Obviously knowing your max distance will help with how your speed of throwing some. This is for fun, because you still have to like what you throw, but I am sure it will be very interesting to see what others think.

Starting it off:

Max distance is around 320' at 100% throw but I am at 250' main distance at my 75% throw for both RHBH and FH, and only 100' thumber/hammer up and over obstacles (frustrating).

Discwing Quarter K II (RHBH long driver)
Innova Champion Sidewinder (almost any shot needed that requires length BH & FH)
Discraft Supercolor Spectra (gradual guarenteed turn BH and FH)
Innova Pro Wraith/Discwing Quarter K (hard turn disc BH & FH)
(can't decide here, but been leaning on the Wraith due availability and I throw the Wraith FH better)
Innova Champion Tee-bird (long straight BH)
Discraft X-Elite Stratus/Innova Classic Roc (BH mid/long straight and all approaches, Stratus disc I can make turn any direction I intend BH, I also notice it can be a great roller, if I can just get the timing down a little better.)
(keep switching these around too, but leaning toward Stratus after learning the breaking in factor of the Roc)
Gateway (SS & SSS) Magic Putters (love them)
Aerobie Epic (carry this now and then for the thumber, but if I don't have one, I have been using the Wraith, maybe there is a better choice for my short distance.)

Currently testing the Discraft Slipstream GT and Latitude 64 Vision for long driver. (really stating to like the Slipstream)



I am sure there is more info that can be used, but hey any advice is something learned no matter if it is about 1 disc or the whole bag. Can't weight to see what you think AND especially what you carry!

Let's debate about this stuff and have some fun with it. :cool:OK, for what it is worth...

I think you need to dump your drivers. ALL of them. Maybe not the Sidewinder, but definitely get rid of the QK, the QK II and the Wraith. The Spectra probably needs to go as well.

Here is my experience...I was adding the newest longest driver to my bag like everybody, then I got hurt. My drives were down to about 250', and I knew I didn't have the power to make my long-range drivers work. So I got rid of them, because I could still throw the Cyclone 250'. As I healed I started working drivers back in and really comparing how they flew for me. I found that at my power level I can drive a Valk almost as far as I can any of the longer drivers with more control. So if I stay away from the Inferno, which was my go-to max D disc, I lose 15 ft of distance and gain the control I need to stay in the fairway. I'll take the open shot and take my chances making up the 15' with my Roc on the second throw as opposed to throwing the Inferno and praying that it lands someplace clear.

Now to be honest, my longest drive with an Inferno was more like 50 ft. past where I throw my Valk. But that was kinda a random once in every hundred tosses. The odds are against me there. By closer observation the difference was much less, and my Inferno throws were all over the place. I just don't have the gun to make that disc do what it is supposed to do. It is supposed to be a hyzer flip disc, but half of the time it hyzerd out on me when I threw it flat.

So for you throwing 320', I'd really disc down. It sounds like the Sidewinder does OK for you, and maybe the Spectra as well. I'd look into an actual overstable disc like and Innova Banshee to make those left turn throws. The Banshee is also great for forehands, thumbers, grenades, and shots like that, so maybe you can unload that Epic.

So that's my recommendation...dump the Wraith and QK, add a Banshee. Maybe a Firebird or a Predator...they are faster than a Banshee but maybe they would work better for you.

TeeBirds are great, leave those alone. The Magic is a good putter, leave that alone. Your mid-range selection is not my cup of tea, but if it works for you go for it. I think you can really improve your game with a more realistic approach to your drivers.

[aweiker06]

three putt just wanted to let u know that the firebird will do the same thing if not worse than what his wraith I doing now anyway here are my two cent on this question-
I am 6 feet 6 inches tall and throw rhbh my farthest measured throw is 538 ft 6 1/3 inches with and average or 460 to 470

175 star gator- this disc is my putter I can make 8 out of en puttss within 55 ft wit it
177 star shark- best midrange disc available
175 star max- thumber disc about 200 ft(not good at them)
173 discraft flick- this is my wndy day in ur face disc I can throw thi disc 450 feet easy over and over again with a 30mph headwind
175 star teerex(2x)- easily could be best drivver on the market this is my s shot disc
175 star destroyer(2x)- most understable disc I have great for
flip shots to get max d on calm days
175 star excaliber- I have really not thrown this yet let u now when I do
175 star teebird- straightest disc for me no fade no turn just straight
175 star wraith- quickly becoming my favorite disc aced a 382 foot hole to the right behind trees and nailed the chains and stuck
175 champion firebird- my favorite disc its the first seriouse disc I bought and easily flies 500 ft 7 out of 10 times also with deadly acuracy I cann place any of my disc anywhere I want I shoot an averaage of 13 under on a course that averages 354 ft a hole

well those are them and what's everyones honest max distance just curious cause I have only been playing for a little under a year and have been contemplating getting really serious about it

[RustyP]

These kind of topics are always fun. I've got a few minutes to kill, so why not?

First, a little about me and my game. I've been playing for 4.5 years, but have only been a serious competitive player for about 3 yrs. I currently play in the open division, with a player rating of 957. My average distance drive is about 375' with my longest golf shots being in the 400'-420' range. My set-up seems to change slightly every few months, but here's what I'm throwing right now...

(2) 175 Star Orc - Both are on the slightly-understable side...one will hold a nice straight line with slight fade at the end, the other will flip over if thrown flat. Newer one is my main no-wind driver, the other is used more to sneak around trees and through tight fairways

175 Champ Glow Orc - straight with strong fade at the end. Gives me a little more accuracy on hyzer shots. Added stability makes it great for anhyzer flex shots.

174 Star Teerex (original mold) - This is only in the bag for windy days or tournaments. Basically hits the same lines as my newest Orc, but used for headwind drives.

175 Sirius Orion LS - I usually carry 2-3 of these in different stages of wear, but there was too much overlap between the newest Orion and my oldest Orc, so I only keep the least stable Orion in the bag now. Total workhorse of a disc...used for myriad of anhyzers, BIG hyzer-flips, but mainly backhand rollers.

175 CE Firebird - Main overstable driver. Shorter headwind drives, forehand drives / rollers, hyzers. Prett well used, so it'll fly straight for good distance before the strong fade kicks in.

175 EXP 1.7 (CE blend) - Used as a compliment to my Firebird. Grippier plastic, smaller rim make for a much more comfortable feel in the hand. Less stable than the Firebird, but still overstable enough to make it very reliable. This *could* leave the set-up without much effect, but I feel very comfortable throwing this one.

175 Champ Teebird - Used mainly for shots between 300-330', but only when I feel I couldnt get a midrange there (because of wind, low ceiling, angle, etc).

(3-4) 176 Ching Rocs (aka "Flat top") - I always have at least 3, sometime 4 of these (depending on the course). Basically, I have the entire spectrum of stabilities represented in these Rocs. Most stable is good for hyzers and anhyzer-flex shots, but the rest are mainly straight for 80% of the flight with varying degrees of fade at the end. My least stable Roc will fade completely straight or with a slight turnover.

179 Champ Cobra (flat-top mold) - Feels just like a flat-top Roc in the hand, but has a very slow/gradual turn at higher speeds, decent fade at low speeds. Mainly used for lofty approaches / mid-shots where I need a late turn.

176 Quantum Sentinel - Overstable midrange...great for headwinds, hyzer mid shots, and skip shots.

175 Champ Whippet - most overstable disc in the bag...flies like a lawndart! Really only used for short trick shots (forehand, spike anyhzer flex, short spike hyzers)...this one comes out a lot in heavily wooded courses to get around trees/bushes.

175 12x KC Aviar - stable/overstable approach disc. Stable enough to handle a good 250-300' drive too.

175 11x KC Aviar - well used with a naturally sunken flight plate. My go-to putter, as well as my understable approach disc.

My core discs are the Orcs, Orion LS, Firebird, Rocs, and Aviars...the rest have their places and get used frequently, but I honestly could play alright without them. Most of the others are situational discs that I'll use in tournament play.

[tomjulio]

175 champion firebird- my favorite disc its the first seriouse disc I bought and easily flies 500 ft 7 out of 10 times also with deadly acuracy I cann place any of my disc anywhere I want I shoot an averaage of 13 under on a course that averages 354 ft a hole


..and you can piss through the eye of a needle standing on your head from the top of 15 story building.

[garublador]

well those are them and what's everyones honest max distance just curious cause I have only been playing for a little under a year and have been contemplating getting really serious about itIf everything you said is true, you have the skills of a top pro.

I followed the advice of this article when choosing the discs to go in my bag:

http://www.discgolfreview.com/resources/articles/discoverlap.shtml

I throw 350'-380' with my fariway drivers on golf lines and can hit 420' on distance lines. Here's what I'm using now:

1. Stable control drivers:
3 DX Gazelles - line shaping from over to understable (300'-360')
2 DX Teebirds - Straight, straight distance and straight with a hyzer finish (330'-380')

2. Distance driver (350'-380'):
1 X Avenger - low ceiling distance, distance with a fade
1 beat E Spirit - more turn and more fade than the Avenger

3. Understable driver:
1 of my DX Gazelles

4. Moderately overstable driver (350'-380'):
1 Z Avenger - long hyzers and distance into the wind
1 S Spirit - a bit shorter and more overstable than the Avenger.

5. Very overstable driver (200'-350')
1 E Spirit

Mids (200'-300'):
2 DX Rocs
1 KC Pro Roc

Putters (0-250'):
5 S Wizards of different weights and beatness

[ZMan44]

I am about average. I can throw a distanc driver out to about 350-360. However, in TN most of our courses tend to be about 60%-75% wooded. More often than not, I tee off with a fairway driver and I can usually get those out to about 310-315. But here's what I roll with...

Distance Drivers:
1. ESP Surge 170 - Long open holes
2. Avenger SS 169 - for a long hole that plays slightly downhill (for some reason I throw this disc laser straight and it never gets more than 8 feet off the ground...and I don't know why)
3. SE Valk 173 - This disc is flippy, but if I release it at a strong hyzer angle, it flips flat and flies a long way on a line.

Fairway Drivers:
1. I carry 2 JLS's. One that is beat, and one that is not.
2. Teebirds: 2 SE (variously beaten), 10x KC Pro - trouble shots
3. Polaris LS - laser straight, low ceiling shots

Mids:
1. Star Kite - anything from 250 to 175 feet away. This disc is dependable for me. I carry a 175 for a little more stability and consistency.
2. Star Cro - it just seems to work for me on a slight hyzer line
3. Star Skeeter - Anhyzer approaches
4. Star Gator - it stays in the bag in case of wind, I use it occasionally for a hard hyzer angle approach

Putters:
1. Wizard (SSS) 175 - any open putt within 35 feet
2. Warlock (SSS) 172 - Any putt that needs a slight anhyzer or any putt outside of 35 feet (this one stays in the air longer for me than the Wizard)

[aweiker06]

hey tomjulio got an idea for u how bout u jump off that 15 story building how bout when u get to souix falls south dakota at tut hill park u give me a call and I will show u why im so good and u can go back to ur redneck trailor court and cry because u wasted all that time and money to get ur ass wooped

[Three Putt]

three putt just wanted to let u know that the firebird will do the same thing if not worse than what his wraith I doing now Very true point, so to clarify...Should you have a very overstable disc in your bag? Yes. However, the Wraith is not a very overstable disc. It is behaving very overstable for him because it is too fast and he doesn't have the power to get it out to where it will glide. In that case it will behave unpredictably overstable. A Firebird or Predator will act overstable because they ARE overstable, and are super predictable. So I'd expect they would be a more dependable hyzer disc for him.

[Rbuzz9]

easy with that response

[SunIsBlue15]

hey tomjulio got an idea for u how bout u jump off that 15 story building how bout when u get to souix falls south dakota at tut hill park u give me a call and I will show u why im so good and u can go back to ur redneck trailor court and cry because u wasted all that time and money to get ur ass wooped

Over the top.

[RustyP]

No need for anyone to get their undies in a bunch :D

But seriously...500' with a champ firebird in an indicator of TOP-pro-level skills, which is typically unheard of for people who have been playing for a short time. Don't take it personal or anything, its just that those figures you posted are totally out of the norm, and I can completely understand why others would think you might be mistaken. Again, nothing personal here...500' with ANY disc is awesome, and considering the Firebird's flight pattern, getting 500' with it is just flat out amazing...but admittedly a little hard to swallow.

What kind of line are you throwing it on to get that distance? Also, just curious, how are you measuring that distance?

[tomjulio]

hey tomjulio got an idea for u how bout u jump off that 15 story building how bout when u get to souix falls south dakota at tut hill park u give me a call and I will show u why im so good and u can go back to ur redneck trailor court and cry because u wasted all that time and money to get ur ass wooped


Wow, someone is sensitive and young. Over the top response to a bit of playfulness.

[jedwards]

hey tomjulio got an idea for u how bout u jump off that 15 story building how bout when u get to souix falls south dakota at tut hill park u give me a call and I will show u why im so good and u can go back to ur redneck trailor court and cry because u wasted all that time and money to get ur ass wooped

I think we are about to have our first fight club match!

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=34&pictureid=226

[tomjulio]

I think we are about to have our first fight club match!

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=34&pictureid=226

hahaha!
Since I can only throw 350+ he'll have to walk backwards another 150 feet with his Firebird to punch me.

[shirfan]

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=34&pictureid=226

Well done, sir. The Star logo in there takes the cake.

[SunIsBlue15]

I think we are about to have our first fight club match!

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=34&pictureid=226

ummm, this is awesome.

[jedwards]

Thanks guys -- just killing time whilst "working" ;)

[tomjulio]

Thanks guys -- just killing time whilst "working" ;)

Do you have a bigger version of this?
I want to make it my Facebook pic, my MySpace pic, my DGCR pic, my Christmas cards for the family pic...you get the idea.

Insane.

[PhattD]

three putt just wanted to let u know that the firebird will do the same thing if not worse than what his wraith I doing now anyway here are my two cent on this question-
I am 6 feet 6 inches tall and throw rhbh my farthest measured throw is 538 ft 6 1/3 inches with and average or 460 to 470

175 star gator- this disc is my putter I can make 8 out of en puttss within 55 ft wit it
177 star shark- best midrange disc available
175 star max- thumber disc about 200 ft(not good at them)
173 discraft flick- this is my wndy day in ur face disc I can throw thi disc 450 feet easy over and over again with a 30mph headwind
175 star teerex(2x)- easily could be best drivver on the market this is my s shot disc
175 star destroyer(2x)- most understable disc I have great for
flip shots to get max d on calm days
175 star excaliber- I have really not thrown this yet let u now when I do
175 star teebird- straightest disc for me no fade no turn just straight
175 star wraith- quickly becoming my favorite disc aced a 382 foot hole to the right behind trees and nailed the chains and stuck
175 champion firebird- my favorite disc its the first seriouse disc I bought and easily flies 500 ft 7 out of 10 times also with deadly acuracy I cann place any of my disc anywhere I want I shoot an averaage of 13 under on a course that averages 354 ft a hole

well those are them and what's everyones honest max distance just curious cause I have only been playing for a little under a year and have been contemplating getting really serious about it

Anybody else smell something? or need taller boots? I know who needs spell check.

[Lewis]

I know y'all are having fun with the pissing contest, but I wanna drag this thread back on course to make a suggestion to a couple of folks. Take it for what it's worth ($0), but you might find it useful.

The earlier posters who said they have a hard time throwing much over 300' might benefit from throwing lighter discs. For example, mmmatt might find he can throw a 160-something Orc farther and straighter than his 170-something Orc. My 160-something Wraith that I lost a few months ago was much longer off the tee for me than the 175g Wraith I just bought a couple of weeks ago to replace it. The heavier one is more predictable, and it's great for drives where I want a late fade, but it's turned out to be my shortest driver rather than my longest one.

[Donovan]

I think you should spend less time working on disc golf and more time with your "English as a second language" course. :p

LMAO

Bro, I am so tired trying to cram all these courses in on one trip, I am lucky to even read that is was totally messed up. :D

[Donovan]

I think you can really improve your game with a more realistic approach to your drivers.

cc0049 has been telling me the same thing. So I have tried to get hold of a Jaguar for a while now, and finally won one on eBay. I will try out the Banshee. I really do score fairly well with just 3 or 4 discs. SO, I will look into the "do it all in one" helper disc and really try to learn it. Thanks for the info bro, I don't think "Thank You" really does it, so let me know if you need anything....resonable! LOL

[Donovan]

Very true point, so to clarify...Should you have a very overstable disc in your bag? Yes. However, the Wraith is not a very overstable disc. It is behaving very overstable for him because it is too fast and he doesn't have the power to get it out to where it will glide. In that case it will behave unpredictably overstable. A Firebird or Predator will act overstable because they ARE overstable, and are super predictable. So I'd expect they would be a more dependable hyzer disc for him.

How does a guy argue with the truth, without looking like an idiot...oh yeah, you don't! He is absolutely right.

[disc-o maniac]

170 lightning #1 flyer(strong wind disc)
150 innova dx leopard (anhyzer disc)
175 innova 10x kc pro eagle (headwind disc)
174 innova dx banshee (tomahawk disc)
174 discraft pro-d crush ("s" curve disc)
172 DGA rogue (forehand driver)
165 Millenium jls (tunnel fairway shot)
180 innova san marino roc (forehand midrange)
167 innova dx orc (hyzer disc)
170 innova dx aviar P&A (putter.)

[dobbins66]

Here's the bag (All Innova) :

JK Aviar-x - 2 (Both 175) (Putting, keep a disc and backup of each mold in the bag)
Star Cro - 2 (172/175) (Short Approach shots)
Star Teebird - 1 (173) Short S-Turn Shots & Tunnel Shots
CE Teebird - 1 (172) " (I don't use it on water holes)
KC Banshee - 2 (174/175) (Thumbers, FH Rollers, Sort tight fairway shots)
Pro Firebirds - 2 (Both 173) (Thumbers, FH Rollers, Straight low shots with right finish)
Star Maxs - 2 (172/175) (Long low shots, Skip Shots, Wind Distance)
Star Whippets - 2 (172/175) (High Thumbers, FH Spike Anhyzers - It flattens, Short Big S-Turns)
Star Destroyer - 2 (Both 171) (Pure Distance, Slight S-Turn preferred line)
Star XCaliber - 2 (172/175) (Distance when windy, Big FH Spike Anhyzer)

Primarily a forehand player, Probably throw over 95% of drives as forehands or thumbers.

[Texconsinite]

I throw around 280-300 feet, primarily LHFH, but throw almost as far with LHBH
Heres whats currently in my bag

ESP Surge (168)- tomahawk disc, FH shot where i need it to not turn over
KC Pro Wraith (179)- Max distance FH, rainy days, more consistant flight than DX
DX Wraith (170)- My baby!!, main max D FH Driver, long flex shots, long FH anhyzers
Champion Beast (175)- Shooting through nasty rocks and trees, FH S curves
Champion Teebird (172)- Straight FH shots, tunnel shots
Pro D XL (171)- Primary BH Driver, BH Hyzers, sharp FH Anhyzers
KC Pro Roc (170)- Straight BH shots, light BH hyzer shots
Star Gator (172)- BH/FH Hyzer shots, layup approaches, putting in the wind, short FH S curves, Roller shots
ESP Banger GT (170)- Putting, approaching

[discflinger]

putters
175 med wizard
175 dx aviar
150 dx aviar

mid ranges
180 2006 usdgc eye roc
180 2001 icebowl flat-top roc (so $)
176 10x kc pro roc
180 esp wasp

big dogs
171 star destroyer
175 cfr destroyer
175 cfr excaliber
175 cfr wraith (augusta)
175 ce firebird
175 4x jk pro valk
162 ce valk
175 star max
175 star beast
175 star t-rex

[Geoffro]

I throw LHBH unless forced into a forehand situation. I typically throw 300-325’ BH, and LHFH I can get around 200’ if lucky. My thumber shots are emergency only, and typically hit a tree and rebound directly back to me (measuring out at between negative and positive 15’). I sometimes throw up a little when this happens.

Putter
DX Aviar Putt & Approach, 168g, yellow (I have two of these, one is dirtier than the other)

Mid-range
DX Shark, 171g, white
DX Roc, 168g, orange
DX Stingray, 169g, orange

Drivers
Champion Teebird, 174g, yellow
Champion Orc, 172g, blue (I’m scared of this disc and never throw it)
DX Leopard, 168g, white (forehand disc)
DX Dragon, ~150g, green

As for what discs I throw in certain situations, I tend to throw the green one only in winter, as in the summer it blends in with the grass too much. The orange and yellow ones I throw in the summer but not fall, as they become camouflaged in the fallen leaves (I generally stay away from putting in the fall). The white ones I throw anytime there is not snow on the ground.

[gcoghill]

I have been sticking with Discraft since a friend gave me a Comet years ago, which changed everything for me at the time. I wanted for now to stick with one manufacturer to get a feel for the range of discs/personalities. It's hard enough analyzing what I need, let alone sort out all the flight factors from all the manufacturers. That said, I am finally at a stage where I have a good feel for what I can/can't throw.

Also, in general I prefer to adjust hyzer rather than have the disc flight vary, so I go for discs that will for the most part fly straight depending on the throw/grip.

I throw RHBH 97% of the time, no rollers, sidearm when obstructed, never overhand.

Currently throwing about 275-300 ft. max drives when I am "on". Thrown farther drives too. And shorter ;)

Putters:
Elite X APX Soft Putter 173g
Just got this and liking it so far. Like the Soft Magnet, but holds it's shape.
Banger-GT Putter 171g
My standard putter to date. Slightly overstable, but I kind of like the groove and have had lots of success with it to date.

Both putters I like because they hold a fairly straight line. Can't say I am 100% satisfied with either though.

Mids:
Elite Z Breeze 172g
Just got this slightly understable midrange disc, and it is probably replacing the Comet. The flight adds just a little extra turn to compensate for my mids throwing style with the Comet.
ESP Comet 170g
Nice and straight, with the right hyzer I can get a S-curve out of it when I need it. Good all-around mid that will fly flat & straight when I want it, and with hyzer/anhyzer throws I can alter the flight path.
ESP Impact 150g
Awesome mid/fairway, was using this as my driver before I took on the Power Grip. Now it's a great, straight flying mid with a hard fade just at the end of the flight. I can put this thing down right where I want it on shorter holes or approaches.

Drivers:
Elite Z Xpress
With a bit of hyzer and a strong throw, this will turn, flatten out and fly nice and straight. With a fan grip or a less-powerful Power Grip throw, I can get a left hook, as well as a sidearm right hook.
ESP FLX Avenger SS 170g
Thrown level and with enough power, this will fly nice and straight, with just a bit of turn to the right. Same as the Xpress Z, with a little less power it will hook left.

I picked up more heavy-duty drivers, but just do not have the power (yet?) to have them do anything but fade hard left, even with decent distance. I prefer to control my fades/turns with the hyzer/anhyzer and strength of the throw rather than the disc itself, so I parked them. Even the Cyclone & XS Elite X with a 1.0 stability pushes the limits of what I can do on a drive. Just a bit too overstable for me, but I foresee them being next in line when I am more comfortable with the Power Grip and my snap increases.

I also have a Surge 150 on it's way, thinking it might be similar to the Avenger SS.

[swellerdiscgolf]

I'VE GOTTEN DOWN TO SEVEN DISCS IN MY BAG

SIDEARM: DESTROYER FOR DRIVES
SIDEWINDER FOR LONG MIDRANGE
PANTHER FOR SHORT MIDS AND USING IT FOR ANHYZER BACKHAND THROWS
BACKHAND: RAGING INFERNO FOR DRIVES
TL FOR LONG MIDRANGES
BUZZZD FOR SHORTER MIDS

AND USING AN ARCHANGEL FOR PUTTING, BUT I'M STILL EXPERIMENTING, PROBABL WITH A SHARK OR WOLF. I NEVER LIKED THE RIMS ON MOST PUTTERS

[RustyP]

I'VE GOTTEN DOWN TO SEVEN DISCS IN MY BAG

SIDEARM: DESTROYER FOR DRIVES
SIDEWINDER FOR LONG MIDRANGE
PANTHER FOR SHORT MIDS AND USING IT FOR ANHYZER BACKHAND THROWS
BACKHAND: RAGING INFERNO FOR DRIVES
TL FOR LONG MIDRANGES
BUZZZD FOR SHORTER MIDS

AND USING AN ARCHANGEL FOR PUTTING, BUT I'M STILL EXPERIMENTING, PROBABL WITH A SHARK OR WOLF. I NEVER LIKED THE RIMS ON MOST PUTTERS

If you don't like the deep rims of putters like the Aviar, Wizard, Magnet, etc...try an Innova XD. Much more shallow, but still has the same flight properties as other putters. It's a little faster than an Aviar, so it's good for approach shots too.

[sidewinding]

I just re-did my bag.

175 Champion XCaliber for sidearms and when I need to curve hard left.

175 Champion Boss for max D when the fairway is wide enough.

175 Champion Beast for max D when the fairway is not wide enough for the Boss.

175 Champion Monarch for s-turns if there's room.

168 Champion Sidewinder for turnovers, anhyzers, long range rollers, 80% power and low for tunnel shots.

150 DX Eagle for fairway drives 250'-300'.

178 DX Roc for 180'-250' approaches.

177 DX First Run Skeeter for 50'-180- approaches.

175 DX XD for putting.

[iDisc]

i change my main discs up a lot because im relatively new to the sport and i overpowered my old drivers so i can't really post on this thread right now because next week i will have a new main driver

[Jimb]

Nice to know that I'm not alone in maxing out at 300' or just over. 260'-280' normally. I throw RHBH unless forced to throw something else. My forehand stinks. It can go about 150' or so but it can also vary about 100' from left to right. I currently only use it if there's something in my way preventing a backhand. And I max out at about 150" with an overhead (tomahawk?). I'm just learning a thumber to get the overhead shot to turn the other way. I'll use this in trouble situations again or sometimes on really narrow opening shots between trees. I have a bunch of discs that I don't use regularly so I'll just include my "go to" bag.

Main Driver: 150 Champion Valkyrie for most long distance shots, straight or turning left at the end.

Understable Driver: 150 Champion Sidewinder for right turning or hyzer-flip drives.

Overstable Driver: 175 Champion Wraith. I believe that this disc is far more overstable than advertised. I use it for big anhyzer release shots that will turn right first due to my anhyzer release and will fade left at the end.

Fairway drivers: 150 DX Leopard for very straight, long approaches. 160ish DX Cheetah for similar shots with a little more left fade at the end.

Long approaches: 175 DX Roc for left turning approaches. 160ish DX Stingray for right turning approaches.

Mid-range and short approaches and putting: 175g DX Aviar P & A for anything 200' and in. Will hold a hyzer or anhyzer line but will fly very straight if you want it to. 175 Star Aviar P & A is my newest short disc and am liking it for approaches needing a little more left fade at the end.

Note: found a Millennium JLS a while back & just started throwing it a good bit. It really reminds me a lot of my Valkyries.

[WillA]

I wanted to post on this back when the thread was active but my bag was in so much flux I wasn't comfortable with what I was throwing in certain situations. Now I think I am comfortable enough to post LOL.

175 Star Max - I use this when I need a hard left turn and skip.
172 Flex Predator - I throw this when I need a hard left turn and no skip.
(I can't throw either of these very far so I don't use them if I need a lot of distance.)

169 Destroyer - Distance driver when I want a softer left turn at the end.
166 Wraith - Distance drive when I want even less fade at the end.

173 Z Avenger - Distance driver when I need a fairly straight shot. Good S-curve driver. Also my forehand disc.
170 Mirus - This used to be my go-to straight driver but it has become a little too undertsable. I still carry it anyway.


170 Flash - I throw this for distance if I want a fade to the right.
170 Inferno - I use this for a HARD right fade.

167 Lazer - I use this for tomahawk approach shots. It sits and flops instead of rolling away.
170 Optimizer - If it is not windy I use this as a touch disc, kind of like some people use the Whittler.
172 Impact - This is now my main approach disc. I even putt with it at times. Weird, I know.
175 Aviar - My primary putter.

[aceman]

Have not posted because my drives are pretty long and i am pretty old(43) and if you dont know me you'll think its bs but who cares,here goes.my longest drives are around 480' to 500' avg consistantly around 430' with a star destroyer that will helix out,am a rhbh.(carry 2 destroyers various ages)

over 350 the affore mentioned destroyers
350 to 330 flx surge
330 to 275 star teebirds(carry 2 also a great long anny disc)
Flx buzz to 275(fav mid range)
star roc to 275(when I need more fade,also carry a beat up dx roc)
wizard putters to 200 (carry 2)
aviar putter for less than 35'

also in the bag for various shots are
star whippet x (wind)
2 star max's (lots of shots including forehands)
star wraith(still gets use)
star beast(good for many uses)
older kc pro gazelle
star sidewinder(many uses,good roller disc)
Boss that I am building more confidence with everyday that may push its way into the starting line before long,unsure what that distance may hold varies right now.

[jaymon1]

RHBH, once could throw 300' but now average probably closer to 250'. Until a little over a year ago, all the local courses favored accuracy over distance for the most part, so my game perhaps evolved accordingly.

I really only use four or five discs every single round, the rest are situational. I've been outplayed many times by people that use two or three discs for a whole round, so I sometimes wonder why we bother with so many. I pretty much throw backhand only, though I can roll in a pinch.

The First Five

DGA Blowfly II (166) - my main putter today, but my putting stinks and this always changes. It goes where you throw it though.
Innova DX Shark (171) - approach, precision, most valuable disc. Now that I have a bit more snap in my form, though, this one goes anhyzer more than it used to, and I'm thinking of trying out a Gator.
Discraft Elite Zxpress (168) - main driver
Innova CE Orc (165) - hyzer driver, and open distance driver
Innova DX Wolf (171) - anhyzer, roller

Situational discs

Innova DX Leopard - currently without but will get one soon. For situations for when I want a similar throw to my main driver but there's some risk of losing the disc. I play in Florida a few times a year and this comes up. I also usually have a backup Eagle that I'd throw when I didn't want to risk losing the Orc, but again I recently lost mine and haven't replaced it yet. Right now a DGA Tsunami is occupying that slot in my bag, but that thing hooks way, way too much. Probably a better disc for stronger arms than mine.
Innova DX Dragon (147) - over water throws
I have an older DX Shark that I use for dangerous shots and rolling sometimes.

Backups

An old Innove Puma (they don't even make those anymore I believe) that I used to use in the same way as the Wolf but haven't thrown in quite awhile.
And two other putters that I alternately love and hate depending on the day and the wind - A DX Rhyno and an old Aviar P&A, which is the one disc that has been in my bag since I first started 7+ years ago.

[Hamilton]

Putters
dx aviar p&a (putting in windy conditions, or longer putts)
soft magnet (light to no wind, inside 50 feet)

Mids
star shark (for a little hyzer or slight headwind, 100-200 feet)
dx wolf (don't really throw much right now, understable mid)

Fairway Drivers
champ leopard (tailwind/no wind 200-300 feet)
pro whippet (headwind 200-250 feet)
champ teebird (headwind/neutral wind 200-300 feet)

Distance Drivers
champ valkyrie (tailwind/no wind 300+ feet)
champ monarch (tailwind 300+ feet)
champ wraith (no wind 300+ feet)
star max (headwind 300+ feet)
star destroyer (no wind 300+ feet)

[Lost in the Brambles]

Alright...so I've been playing for 2 years...I throw both RHFH & RHBH, but I started FH, so that's what I'll fall back on, in most situations (though I'm getting a lot more comfortable approaching BH). Distance... I'd say 255-280ft RHFH and 325-375ft RHBH (with less accuracy). One other thing, I only like the small diameter rims for RHFH...which might limit what discs I use.

Ah the bag:

-Star & DX wraith 175 - for open RHBH shots (the dx has taken the place of the star)
-Star & Champ Teebird 171- the star TB is my favorite RHFH disc I use it all the time for long S curve shots, even got me an ace
-Star Destroyer 174 - I use this on RHBH shots, long hyzer shot, still workin on getin her to go straight
- Elite Z Wildcat 167- Lost my monarch and started to use this disc for long straight RHFH shots. It works, miss my monarch though
-DX sidewinder 175- Beat'in it up, to use as a roller? Can use it in the monarch's place as well...not "in love yet"
-Mirus Latitude 64 172- I use this disc for RHFH hyzer shots and thumbers
-Defender 170- New addition, I use it for an approach turnover disc
-KC Pro Gazelle 162 - I love this disc, I throw it both RHBH & RHFH and it does what I want. I use it for short drives or long approaches.
-Star Cro 172- Used for approach of long puts
-Putters- I started with an Aviar, but recently got a sss wizard and don't know if I can ever go back

OH yeah the other day I rescued a Discraft XS from a frozen pond...called the # on the disc and was gifted it...so we'll see what she's got.

[SimonCarr]

Putters:
Soft Wizard - main putter
Medium Wizard - distance putter, hyzer putter, approaches, short drives
JK Pro Aviar - anhyzer putter, uphill putter, cold weather putter

Mid Range:
Midnight Buzzz - 150-250 line drive and turnover shots, sidearm approaches
CFR Roc - 100-200 hyzer drives and approaches, sidearm approaches

Drivers:
CE Pro Leopard - Any shot between 150 and 350, Mostly line drives, turnovers, slight hyzers
Pro XL - Extremely beatup disc, rollers, hyzer-flips, tailwind shots, turnovers, max d
Champion Teebird - Accurate distance, slight hyzers, sidearm approaches
Champion Orc - Primary sidearm driver, forehand rollers
Star TL - long straight drives

[crouchingwombat]

Lets see I'm not sure how far I can throw maybe 350 max. Like everyone else 250 is my go to consistent distance.
My bag is always changing right now there are 2 disc the a chap boss and a new star wraith i'm trying to break in but can't use for crap.

XD putter - new and love it sooo much better than my old lightning rubber putter
Pro-line Beast - great for distance shots with more fade required
DX wraith - got this when my star wraith started crapping out on my forehand shots
Star wraith - my baby, I used to be able to bomb this forehand with no turn or fade, now it kinda sucks.
Elite Z crush - I hear this isn't that good but it's my goto disc, it turns really well and I can get good distance most of the time
DX Shark - this beat up thing can work good sometimes with low wind
Dragon - only when I know it's going in the H2O

My disc's always change depending on my mood, I have a firebird and that kid can goto hell if he says he can throw it more than 50 ft. :-) I really like the teebirds but my fingers are a little too big to get a good grip on them. I've heard a few people talk about rocs and classic cobras and I want to try those guys out for shorter drives.

[gcr_russell]

My bag is constantly evolving and changing because I'm still developing my preferences for discs and I switch it up some for really windy days (which weve had a lot lately) as opposed to calmer days.
I primarily drive RHFH, but have been working on my RHBH, starting now only with putters and midranges so my form doesnt have to be sacrificed

Drivers-
-Star Destroyer (175)- for long S shots, slowly phasing out as the longest hole here is 351' and my distance is getting plenty better
-Champion Orc (175)- for long anhyzer shots with a small hyzer fade at the end of flight
-Star Firebird (175)- Great disc for the wind, and one that Im quickly learning to use in almost any situation
- Star Sidewinder (175)- S curve disc, with a consistent release it always pulls nearly identical turns
-Z Flick (174)- great disc for the wind and forehand drives, slowly phasing it out, as other discs are filling it's role in my bag
-ESP Avenger SS(171)- learning it to help with my RHBH
Fairway Drivers
-Champion Eagle(175)- predictable and easy disc within 325'
-Champion Teebird(175)- My absolute favorite disc, I have more teebirds on the way. I throw this off the tee 75% of the time at least.
Midrange
-Z Buzzz(174)- Very predictable straight flyer
-Champion Coyote(180)- My favorite FH approach disc, also starting to be able to bomb it RHBH off the tee
Putters
-Pro Rhyno(175)- Great disc for the wind. Drops and sticks making it also a great approach disc. Of all the putters Ive driven off the tee my most consistent.

Im currently auditioning more putters, with soft magnets, wizard, and a voodoo in the mail. Also auditioning other midranges in the comet, kite, and roc. As far as drivers my bag constantly changes, aside from my trusty fairway drivers, although Im never one to turn down an opportunity to try out any disc, and no disc is safe in my bag, other than my teebird.