Bag tags/club tags

[mmyersdisc]

Ok, so locally we have a club (dead club) around here and im thinking of getting it back in the groove next season...I have to contact the "leaders" and see if its ok with them to take the name of the club back because its been around since 1980's but recently has died...we still run best shot doubles but we don't take club money out due to there being no club...so basically this is me asking about information...I was thinking of doing shirts with a cool logo (we have an old one but it just said MDGC for Michiana Disc Golf Club) im thinking of revising the logo and making some shirts and some bag tags OR patches...BUT...im trying to figure out how the bag tags work...Would you just hold like a mini bag tournament...and whoever gets first gets bag tag #1? and from there you would play each other from time to time to try and hold the #1 bag tag? if not, how would you know which tag is better then the other tag? That would be my idea on how you would decide who has the "best" tag....if there are ANY other ideas please feel free to go ahead with them...this winter I am working on becoming a sanctioned member of the PDGA so I can host some sanctioned events (we have 4 local courses..one of which held the 1996 worlds) I believe northern IN can be reborn again on the disc golf scene it just needs some people to step up..and well...we have a few people that are willing to step up!

[Roc1Time]

You can play tags pretty much any way that you want. People can just get them and play with them whenever they meet, you can do tourneys, or whatever. There has been many attempts with them down here and none have seem to catch on. I did a money challenge a couple of years ago but what happened over time were cerain people would only show up once in awhile or would only play with certain people so they didnt lose thier tags. I think it just depends. Another one we just had a little while agolasted about 3 months before it faded ot too.

[mmyersdisc]

You can play tags pretty much any way that you want. People can just get them and play with them whenever they meet, you can do tourneys, or whatever. There has been many attempts with them down here and none have seem to catch on. I did a money challenge a couple of years ago but what happened over time were cerain people would only show up once in awhile or would only play with certain people so they didnt lose thier tags. I think it just depends. Another one we just had a little while agolasted about 3 months before it faded ot too.

well...my PLAN (plan as in developing/brainstorming sessions lol) is to have the starting tournament to decide who gets bag tag #1 (I want it to be like a "I beat the best guy and have the best tag" sorta thing) or do it like the travel tags and have it where they put there name nad member number and see which tag got tossed around the most...im still thinking..but I know I would probably do a once a month or every two months bag tag tournament...for people to have a shot and winning the tags again..I still gotta think of how I would do the format maybe like #1 plays #2, #3, #4, whoever on that card gets #1 tag yada yada....maybe do the format by sections of four people and that person gets the higher card...then the next time ill put them on a different card so they have a chance at getting a better card...get what im saying? lol...ALSO..how does a club go about getting stamped discs and/or club plastic cheaper then retail so we can make money off our plastic

[Camgolfer]

The local club in these parts holds weekly tag matches at different courses. Most nights of the week depending on what part of the city you are in, you can drive to a course that is offering tag matches. The pool the tags at the beginning and indicate who had which number before they start. At the end the tags get redistributed based on scores. They do this at tournaments as well.

[mmyersdisc]

The local club in these parts holds weekly tag matches at different courses. Most nights of the week depending on what part of the city you are in, you can drive to a course that is offering tag matches. The pool the tags at the beginning and indicate who had which number before they start. At the end the tags get redistributed based on scores. They do this at tournaments as well.

wait, so every week you turn in your tags in the beginning and try to win it again each week? obviously there is only one division to make sure you really are "the best" I was wondering how you would do that...like we run monday and tuesday best shots but then nothing later in the week....that might be an idea...any ideas on what type of companies make these tags?

[zenbot]

We blindly picked ours out of the box when we buy our tags. At that point any time you play a round with another tag holder there is the option to swap tags. Any "official" club event, like our monthlies, means that tags are up for grabs among your card only.

[mmyersdisc]

We blindly picked ours out of the box when we buy our tags. At that point any time you play a round with another tag holder there is the option to swap tags. Any "official" club event, like our monthlies, means that tags are up for grabs among your card only.

how do you know which tag is the best? by who has it? and are your monthlies one round? If so, that would be easier to decide who gets the tags...if not I would assume after every round you guys would have to switch tags around...

[Camgolfer]

well...my PLAN (plan as in developing/brainstorming sessions lol) is to have the starting tournament to decide who gets bag tag #1 (I want it to be like a "I beat the best guy and have the best tag" sorta thing) or do it like the travel tags and have it where they put there name nad member number and see which tag got tossed around the most...im still thinking..but I know I would probably do a once a month or every two months bag tag tournament...for people to have a shot and winning the tags again..I still gotta think of how I would do the format maybe like #1 plays #2, #3, #4, whoever on that card gets #1 tag yada yada....maybe do the format by sections of four people and that person gets the higher card...then the next time ill put them on a different card so they have a chance at getting a better card...get what im saying? lol...ALSO..how does a club go about getting stamped discs and/or club plastic cheaper then retail so we can make money off our plastic

Most of the disc brands have tournament/club stamping and pricing. Check out their respective websites. They have order forms on the site to get custom stamped discs. Usually a Discraft ESP disc retails at 16-20 bucks. You can order them for the club's cost of less than $10 for the disc when you include shipping. Most of the purchases require a minimum of 100 discs to be ordered at a time, but you can usually get different molds within this 100.

[mmyersdisc]

Most of the disc brands have tournament/club stamping and pricing. Check out their respective websites. They have order forms on the site to get custom stamped discs. Usually a Discraft ESP disc retails at 16-20 bucks. You can order them for the club's cost of less than $10 for the disc when you include shipping. Most of the purchases require a minimum of 100 discs to be ordered at a time, but you can usually get different molds within this 100.

yea im just trying to figure out costs and stuff...I THINK we have about $200 bucks in club money...gotta figure out how to start building that again...there is a local guy that gets discs from another club from where he used to live (lemon lake area) and sells champion and star discs for $12...and they aren't special stamps...so trying to figure out how that would work or whatever to get the club funds built back up in order to fund events and whatever else...

[Omega SuperSloth]

heres a site with some info on tags http://tupelodiscgolf.com/joolma/

look under "About the TDGA"

Tag tourneys are easy to do , you just make at least 30 tags numbered 1-30(charge entry fee to cover tag price) then give the people the number of where they placed in the tourney. And then make more if needed and give them out later, and you can also make extra as needed for people that didnt play in the tourney and give them the next highest #. Use those tags for a whole year then retire them when the next years Tags comeout. Any time you have a mini or pdga tourney tag holders can also play for tags as well , or use them for casual rounds.

[skinner21]

I am fortunate to have a very active local club where I live. Here is how we handle bag tags. Each year we have member dues of $15 and that gets you a mini and a bag tag. The first time they are given out is after the first bag tag match of the year in order of finish. Every week on Sunday mornings we have a 9am bag tags at our "home course" where everyone who wants to play can show up, turn in thier tags, play a round and whoever gets the best score gets the best tag there that day, and so on down the line. ties are determined by a first hole CTP. When the weather gets better we also have 1 pm bag tags that alternates between a few courses in the area.

when new players join, or when old players get their dues in, they get the nest tag in line.

We currently have 155 bag tags in circulation and the top 20 are "gold tags". Each week after bag tags the person running the event will post the scores and member tag number on the club's forum. Player's are also free to play rounds with each other for tags, at tournaments with each other and whatnot. The reason we reset every year is just to get all of the tags back in play and consolidate the tags. By the end of the year you tend to have a wide range of tags at the weekly events. Yesterday for example we had only 9 people there (there was the "homie" tourament at Lemmon Lake that most people went out to plus it was pretty cold) and we had tags from 20-155 in play. resetting at the beginning of each year just gets more high tags in play more often.

on a side note, we raise funds throughout the year through a weekly doubles, ace pots, bilnd birdies, hannicap leagues, and other fund raisers.

if you have more questions that I'm sure I won't be able to answer the forum is here (http://foxvalleymetrodiscgolfclub.com/forum/index.php)

they would be happy to give any advise they can.

[Omega SuperSloth]

also you should sign(very small) every new tag you get , that helps to get rid of some the hoarders , and makes it more fun as people are less concerned about trying to hold on to one tag like they own it.

[mmyersdisc]

I was at the HOMIE tournament :) ...it was a great time...anyways, thats where I talked to a few of the guys about getting the club back up so we can hold tournaments back home...becuase we all get sick of having 4 nice courses with no one to run events! Anyways, so each year you reset the tags so like you just change the year I take it? and order say 100 more tags? What happens if you have like 2-#1 tags...say one of the guys from last year didn't get a new tag this year and he was holding tag number 67 or something..I would assume you just add another tag and he gets the next highest number? and when people play for tags on casual rounds...how do you know who has what tag number then? I would assume they would contact the club leader and let them know of the switch? We have a club website but it sucks...there aren't any forums on there...I've never done forums but I have a computer IT degree in networking so hopefully I can figure it out (I didn't do much programming lol) but so far I think the ideas are going along the lines of what I was thinking...what are blind birdies? also, we do weekly doubles now but we have the $5 fee, $1 goes towards ace fund and its paid out in full..I think thats how we can keep so many people coming out...when the club was around there weren't that many people showing up I guess becuase the payout got reduced for a club fee of $1...so payout was $3 instead of $4 per person...but I will bring it up later this week...thanks for the help so far!

[skinner21]

there is a thread where the top 20 (the gold tags) are followed by the people that win them. Other than that, the top tags are pretty much known if you go regularly because to get one you have to be pretty damn good and it definatly isn't a show up one time, win, and never come back type of club. everyone pretty much knows most of the people in the club and if you're good enough to win you know the people running the club.

blind birdies are a $2 pot that is 50/50. After the round a random hole is drawn and if you birdied that hole you win the money. if more than one person birdied the hole, a CTP ensues. If no one birdied that hole, everyone who bought into the blind birdie gets a CTP. It's fun and raises money.

I forgot to mention we also do CTP's on a few holes during doubles. I know it sounds like we nickle and dime players to death but all ace funds, blind birdies, and ctp's are optional. The only thing that players have to pay for is the $5 at weekly doubles. Even the dues are optional. You can play in any of the events (minus the bag tags as you would have nothing to play with/for) without being in the club.

[zenbot]

how do you know which tag is the best? by who has it? and are your monthlies one round? If so, that would be easier to decide who gets the tags...if not I would assume after every round you guys would have to switch tags around...
All the tags are numbered 1-100. Tags are redistributed each round.

[scarpfish]

I've always wondered if people with prime tags would put them up for grabs more if they had some incentive to defend them, such as their challengers putting up a nominal sum of cash ($1-5), with perhaps a fixed schedule set by the club of what the tag is worth depending on how prime it is.

Have any of you tried something like that?

[skinner21]

anyone that hordes a tag is a homo. It sucks, but it's true.

[Omega SuperSloth]

I've always wondered if people with prime tags would put them up for grabs more if they had some incentive to defend them, such as their challengers putting up a nominal sum of cash ($1-5), with perhaps a fixed schedule set by the club of what the tag is worth depending on how prime it is.

Have any of you tried something like that?that would not be cool thats basically being a hoarder , the fun of tags is winning and losing tags . If your good enough and where you placed wasnt just luck, you should be able to get that # back or get a higher # .

[mmyersdisc]

yea I don't think we would have any tag "hoarders" but you never know I guess...if I can get this thing going ill probably be doing quite a bit of the ideas from here becuase we will need to get the club money flowing again...need to contact discraft and innova for club pricing on plastic and see if there is a minimum...I HEARD its 100 discs and at $7 a disc thats 700 bucks....OUCH lol...we are trying to get a tournament set up in a month (annual turkey shootout) alot of out of town guys were pissed that we weren't holding one this year so my buddy stepped up and called me..so we will see what we can do...I already made a flyer for it just need to see if we can get it sanctioned and whatever else...might have a sponsor already too

[peteg]

Doing a "1st tag match" round at the beginning when you first distribute tags is the right idea. One year, during our first tag match, people came and bought #2 and #3 and then left without playing. They eventually got back into the rotation, but you don't want to see all your low tags run off never to be seen again. Do a first tag match event--be it a tournament or a single round--and try to hype it up so that a lot of people show up. Distribute tags after the round based on how everyone shoots.