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diggs79
10-05-2007, 12:12 PM
just curious if anyone had any reccomendations for tomahawks. just got an epic and an avenger. both are incredible, but i would still like to know if any vets out there have more suggestions.

timg
10-05-2007, 05:13 PM
I've never tried tomahawking my epic, I should give that a go since I'm certainly not fond of it as a driver.

diggs79
10-05-2007, 05:57 PM
the epic thrown as a thumber is as the names says. to describe the flight is like trying to explain the trajectory of a car that flips off a bridge at a high speed, but ill try.

it comes off your hand at an extremely high speed and begins a quick barrel roll, causing it to careen right at first (in direct opposition to every other thumber you will throw in your life), and then the oddest thing happens-it turns flat and glides as if you had throw it classically. at this point, it glides to the left (more or less so depending on how you tune it in) for a great distance.

people report 35-550 foot drives.

the key is a high release, as it must barrel roll and have enough elevation to glide out at it's high speed. so with good snap and speed, and a high release point, you will gain huge distance.

timg
10-05-2007, 06:18 PM
That sounds interesting.. interesting enough that I may have to pull the epic out and give this a shot. Thanks for the info! :)

andy
10-18-2007, 09:40 PM
try a monster, firebird or a (pulse by discraft). Any super overstable disc will do. I throw a thumber and a forehand quite often and think the pulse is the most predictable.

spectrasmydisc
10-24-2007, 10:53 PM
the best disc i have used for the overhand is the predator or the reaper. i have also heard that the venom is good too. they are all very overstable and made by discraft. i have not found any innova disc that is better than any of these or any other disc makers for that matter.

Khao Pra
10-27-2007, 10:38 PM
in general, the more overstable and the more spin, the better.

agree completely with diggs79 description of an epics tomohawk flight patter. that disc is a worthless P.O.S. for anything other than a tomohawk, and for that, it has shown some promise. personally don't own one and wouldnt buy one but have seen it thrown overhand many many times and for some reason, it works.

for just about everything else however,completely unreliable disc , imo.

timg
10-27-2007, 10:58 PM
I can't agree more regarding the Epic. I bought one when it first came out just to give it a try for fun. Well, fun never really came into the equation when trying to throw that disc the traditional way. I haven't had a chance to try and tomahawk it yet.. I'll have to put it in my bag so I don't forget it exists (or maybe it's better that I do forget! :)).

theculturedredneck
01-10-2008, 09:55 AM
i abhor the the tomahawk, but my bro throws it all the time. he prefers really beat up DX fairway drivers such as a leopard, cheetah, or even a gazelle. the crappier the disc, the better. you may not get max distance from such a disc, but he can drop them w/in 10 feet of the cage inside 270 ft with regularity.

WillA
01-10-2008, 05:33 PM
I use the 100 Meter Lazer for tomahawks because it sits nicely instead of rolling and skittering off to the side. Understable discs seem better for tomahawks to me.

corey115
03-25-2008, 04:17 PM
There are many discs that make good thumber/tomahawk discs.

Some of those are:
Aerobie Epic

Firebird
Max
Monster

Flick
Pred
Reaper

Spirit

Most overstable discs work well.

myoung
05-15-2008, 05:21 AM
I throw a champion eagle and it works great. If I aim it at the basket, it usually goes straight for it.

WillA
05-15-2008, 11:50 AM
I used to use a Lazer but after a while it started fading badly. That was all I used it for. I never thought about tomahawk discs getting beat-in and that affecting their flight but I guess it happens.

Texconsinite
05-16-2008, 02:06 AM
Just bought an Epic a few weeks ago as a thumber disc, and had good results.

It takes a little bit of tuning/hard impacts to figure it out, but it will go. It flies differently than other discs i used to use for the thumber. In the past, the disc (an ESP crush if you must know) would flip upside down and slide 20ft further once it landed.

The epic does nto do this. It seems to hold the angle of release in the air longer (ie. sideways), and flies straight up (higher than others), when it starts to barrel roll, it will end up sideways, so it knifes straight down to the ground, and doesnt slide upside down like other discs do upon landing

Even without the extra skip, still the longest tomahawk disc I've ever thrown. Weird and different, but good. Its the only thumber disc I use anymore, only problem ive had is overshooting!

DGtourist
05-16-2008, 03:44 AM
Just bought an Epic a few weeks ago as a thumber disc, and had good results.

It takes a little bit of tuning/hard impacts to figure it out, but it will go. It flies differently than other discs i used to use for the thumber. In the past, the disc (an ESP crush if you must know) would flip upside down and slide 20ft further once it landed.

The epic does nto do this. It seems to hold the angle of release in the air longer (ie. sideways), and flies straight up (higher than others), when it starts to barrel roll, it will end up sideways, so it knifes straight down to the ground, and doesnt slide upside down like other discs do upon landing

Even without the extra skip, still the longest tomahawk disc I've ever thrown. Weird and different, but good. Its the only thumber disc I use anymore, only problem ive had is overshooting!

I used to keep epics around. It just seems like the plastic doesn't hold up, too gummy. I like the hawk distance, in WYoming there's not much need for hawk, and distance.

Texconsinite
05-31-2008, 07:32 PM
That may be, and there are def courses I play that i rarely use tomahawk on, but I like to try new courses (see my reviews) whenever I can, so I never know if i'll need it or not. Likewise for you when you venture out of WY for a vacation.

I agree on the gummyness. My epic did seem to get dings and scratches fairly often. however, it didnt really seem to affect its flight pattern. Who knows maybe an extremely beat up Epic might decrease its overstability enough to consider throwing it some way besides tomahawk = O !!!!!
But probably not.

When you carried them, how did you tune your Epics to maximize their thumber distance? Did bending the lip up or down seem to be the best? I played with mine, but still havent figured it out

john campbell
10-25-2008, 12:09 AM
I bought an Innova Champion Monarch Distance Driver and can't throw it very well, so I use it for tomahawks. When thrown tomahawk-style it flies much like Diggs79's description above - cuts to the right, flips over, glides upside down, and usually slides or skips for extra distance. weird. It also works great as a roller.

DannyM
10-25-2008, 06:43 AM
I don't throw tomahawks, but I do throw thumbers. I have a 172g candy TL, that I use exclusively just for thumbers. For me it's very predictable, but really it's the only driver that I've used for thumbers. If I'm at closer range and just need something over the top of trees/bushes, or have just a tight gap that I've got no other shot, I use my pig.

gwillim
10-25-2008, 11:16 AM
If you have a very powerful overhand shot, the Z Xtreme is about as good as it get's. If you don't have that strong of an overhand shot, it won't work.

The Z Xtreme is the most overstable disc on the market, thus it resists turn better than anything else out there, with the right arm, it will go VERY far for thumber/tomahawk.

gcoghill
10-25-2008, 12:28 PM
I am curious if anyone throws overhand and has the disc flatten out into an actual flight, or if you guys just get the loop-de-loop that I usually see people get when they overhand.

Would be cool to see an overhand that converts into a flat flight.

valkyriefb11
11-01-2008, 11:28 PM
I am curious if anyone throws overhand and has the disc flatten out into an actual flight, or if you guys just get the loop-de-loop that I usually see people get when they overhand.

Would be cool to see an overhand that converts into a flat flight.

Before I played DG I played Ultimate for years and still do. I learned to throw a tomahawk/overhand using an ultimate disc. With an ultimate disc a proper tomahawk will flatten out into a regular flight, just upside down. When I throw my disc overhand I throw it much the same way and generally get it to flatten out for a regular flat flight, again just upside down. I can also throw it so that it doesnt flatten out which I sometimes want. (When I throw overhand I use an old beat DX valkrie and it works very well for me.)

ninja-don
11-02-2008, 12:03 AM
I have never seen any of my disc convert to a flat flight... they all flip to a flat flight and then continue to flip and land like a rocket shot straight at the ground hitting the edge of the disc.
My favorite disc for this is the Beast DX, but I've noticed that the Viper DX takes longer to complete the full flip... I'm new to disc golf and still working on my shots, but my best guess is that if you want a disc to flatten out (upside down) on a overhead throw, you should use an overstable disc such as the viper.
Also if you are planning on using this shot often... you might want to get a higher grade of plastic since this shot is extremely rough on your disc.

JR Stengele
11-02-2008, 01:55 AM
I use beat up champion beasts or eagles but as previous DG's have mentioned, anything overstable.

thenamesben
11-02-2008, 10:46 AM
After I realized I couldn't throw the Boss at all, I started using it as a thumber. It's worked wonderfully!

john campbell
11-02-2008, 03:23 PM
yesterday I watched my friend throw a thumber (with an Innova Shark) over some brush and small trees. It went straight up and about halfway down flattened out like a regular throw. It flew slightly right and glided straight for the basket, fading a little left at the end. amazing.

Highryder
11-02-2008, 04:55 PM
I throw a pulse as my thumber disc and am quite accurate from 100-275. It's the most consistent disc i've found. I've thrown the epic, but didn't like it enough to keep it in my bag.

petecarp
11-02-2008, 09:44 PM
I use beat up champion beasts or eagles but as previous DG's have mentioned, anything overstable.

mistake me if im wrong but a beat-in or even new beast is not an overstable disc, nor is a beat in eagle.

valkyriefb11
11-03-2008, 07:29 PM
mistake me if im wrong but a beat-in or even new beast is not an overstable disc, nor is a beat in eagle.

Beasts are not overstable ... and a beat beast even less so ... my beast took quite a beating this summer and it has become very understable.:(
Eagles aren't really overstable either especially when beat.

Fore
11-03-2008, 08:33 PM
I have been throwing a champion Banshee for my overhand shots. I throw overhand once or twice off of the tee and also use it to get out of trouble sometimes.

Dano
11-03-2008, 10:09 PM
I throw a good number of tomahawks and thumbers. When I throw longer shots (drives), I will throw a valkrye in champion which does the whole rotation or a reaper in z which is more overstable and turns slower. For up shots, I like to throw an aviar in the star plastic. For a shorter throw but not really in putting range I find it really easy to get the disc to fly and land flat. Great for going around things and with practice you can scuby your disc right under the basket (I don't go for chains because the flat sided of the disc will rocket you way past the basket if you miss metal).

swellerdiscgolf
11-16-2008, 09:58 AM
I've only tried an overhead / tomahawk shot a couple of times. The discs that work best for me were very lightweight discs like my friends dragon, or my 150 shark. When I used these, they went perfectly straight over the obstacle in front of me, did their little flip and landed about five feet from the basket. I only use this throw for going over obstacles, which are rare here in hampton roads.

YonderScott
11-16-2008, 04:33 PM
I have a 150g factory second Champ Sidewinder I use to get out of trouble, or when I'm in the trees. It works great for a thumber/tomahawk. I can't get a whole lot of distance, but I can get my self out of trouble and closer to the basket. I also have a dx banshee that works good for overhand.

And the beat dx beast I have is way understable, it was that way off the rack and continues to head farther under the more trees I hit. I throw sidearm and it works great for left turns.

tom04
11-23-2008, 11:07 PM
firebird- best thumber out there, throw it to the left of the pin it will bounce right

discinator
11-24-2008, 01:29 AM
I just recently picked up an FLX surge. This thing is ideal for thumbers. the FLX material is awesome. I have thown this thing as high as I can going over trees landing on rocks and the disc still doesn't even have a ding on it. I play Circle C in austin a lot and with all of the rocks out there a durable disc is a must.

ScottJB
11-24-2008, 01:58 AM
I use a Viper on the rare occasion that I attempt these shots...

blang
01-20-2009, 01:56 AM
Little update,,,,

If anyone is throwing a Destroyer for a distance overhand shot I encourage you to try the Boss. I throw it the exact same as I would throw the Destroyer and get about 25 to 30 extra feet. It has now replaced my Destroyer completely and I now have no use for the Epic. I threw the Epic for pure distance but I can get the Boss just as far but with more control. I won a CTP this weekend so I am happy.

DeafDiscGolfer
01-20-2009, 04:33 AM
Little update,,,,

If anyone is throwing a Destroyer for a distance overhand shot I encourage you to try the Boss. I throw it the exact same as I would throw the Destroyer and get about 25 to 30 extra feet. It has now replaced my Destroyer completely and I now have no use for the Epic. I threw the Epic for pure distance but I can get the Boss just as far but with more control. I won a CTP this weekend so I am happy.

Nice!

What weight and which runs were you using Boss for tomahawk or thumber?

solomon.trenton
01-20-2009, 09:04 AM
just curious if anyone had any reccomendations for tomahawks. just got an epic and an avenger. both are incredible, but i would still like to know if any vets out there have more suggestions.

i throw my epic (that is until i lost both of them) by having one finger on the inside of the fat part of the lip and the rest of my fingers curled around the outside of the disc. most people throw with the smaler side i just find i have more control the other way.

Mark R
01-20-2009, 10:04 AM
My thumber drive is my semi-secret weapon. Disc weight is an important factor not discussed here-172 grams works for me. The best thumber disc (IMO) is a CHAMPION firebird, 172 grams. Throw it really hard, but with more of a line drive than big altitude parabola. Keep your elbow angled as it would be throwing to home plate from center field, and don't throw your shoulder out. I can consistently throw 300-310' in the air, with an occasional roll. Threw a 371' this year, longer than my backhands.

_.-Dut-._
01-20-2009, 10:09 AM
I use a Champion Orc for all of my approach shots (250' or less) and all of my "get out of trouble" shots. Anything over 250' I use a Z Predator.

blang
01-20-2009, 11:55 AM
Nice!

What weight and which runs were you using Boss for tomahawk or thumber?

I now use a 174 signature Boss for tomahawks.

JR Stengele
01-20-2009, 01:57 PM
I need to try the boss cause right now it is too overstable to do anything else with it.

blang
01-20-2009, 02:48 PM
Many say that over stability is the key but I have found that for pure distance, the speed of the disc was more important. When I throw a Boss/Destroyer the disc stays perpendicular to the ground longer thus traveling farther before it fades.

I if I need the disc to fade on a dogleg or around trees faster I use a KC Pro TeeBird.

If I need to throw a get out of trouble short overhanded throw less than 50 feet I will use a 10 meter Brick. It turns to a fade quick and tends to lay down on its top much faster, thus preventing a unknown roll.

elevated plastic
01-20-2009, 05:30 PM
For max distance thumbers, discraft xtreme flies further than anything.

sapples
01-20-2009, 07:51 PM
My XCaliber is like a dart when i tomahawk it. Very accurate and dependable in rough situations. If i want more fade in the throw the TeeRex is great as well.

flash86
01-20-2009, 09:15 PM
For longer thumbers, I use a Star TeeRex. For shorter ones, I use a KC Pro Eagle.

Lewis
01-20-2009, 11:00 PM
100-200 feet out from a basket where there are no branches overhanging the fairway, I like to use a Coyote as a tomahawk approach disc. This is more consistent for me than any other approach at this range, though it doesn't work well on windy days or when there's a low ceiling of tree branches. I throw the disc on a high arc so that it turns under as it lands flat on its top about 20-30 feet in front of the basket, sliding from there right up to or a little past the basket. In windier conditions, or the upper end of this range, I'll use a Valkyrie or a Wraith.

Does anybody here throw a tomahawk-roller with any success?

ShaZaun
01-21-2009, 01:09 AM
I've never thrown tomahawk style but I think I'll give it a shot....

srm_520
01-29-2009, 08:27 PM
The problem with most discs is the amount of turn I can generate. The EPIC, which is useless for about anything, is maybe the perfect tomahawk disc. I kept a 168 in my bag when I need it. I have gone through a few EPIC's for this purpose, and find that the key is a lighter disc, since wind resistance isn't a huge issue based on flight path, and the hold the disc with two fingers on the inside where the disc starts to thicken. Holding it in that position helps generate the extra torque needed to really get it to turn over and hit the spot you wanted.

I was able to birdie #5 alternate tee at Terramont outside of Houston with that throw - which may be the only good consistent way to do it based on the amount of foliage. I think it doesn't matter if the plastic can gets beat to hell since it just gets better and turns easier with every hit. Good luck.

3monsterboys
02-04-2009, 09:26 PM
i use my 172 champion beast, i occasionally use my orc. my friend can't figure out his epic at all, but he kills it with his DX viper.

Legend KILLer
02-04-2009, 09:42 PM
I use my 175 Champion Monster. If I throw it in a perfect line above my head, it will stay that way throughout its whole flight til the very end when it flips over and lands top down and usually slides for a bit. I can chuck it about 230' consistently. I want to get a lighter disc to see if I can get more distance.

MONDO

_.-Dut-._
02-04-2009, 09:42 PM
Ive heard the Viper is pretty mean when it comes to thumbers. Never tried it.

blang
02-04-2009, 10:08 PM
I ordered a 147 gram esp Flick on a recommendation. I throw a lot of tomahaws so I will let you know if I get any more distance than what I am currently using.

Texconsinite
02-04-2009, 10:42 PM
Does anybody here throw a tomahawk-roller with any success?

For my rollers, I use the same "two fingers inside the rim" placement with hte disc sideways just like a tomahawk, but just aim lower, if thats what you mean?

I do have success with this roller shot. I use my Star Gator. Its really pretty similar to a forehand with all wrist snap. Just snap at the ground as quick as you can and watch it go The nice wide rim on the Gator is like a tire, and its pretty predictable. Instead of holding it perfectly sideways, you can throw with the underside slightly down and it will roll straight for longer before it curves off to the left (or right if you're a lefty like me)

_.-Dut-._
02-05-2009, 12:18 AM
Im somewhat decent with the tommy roller aswell. Z Predator works pretty well for those.

darnella
02-05-2009, 04:42 AM
i throw thumbers more than anyone i have ever played with or have seen and
Star Firebirds are the way to go.....not sure on thomahawks cause i very rarely throw them

blang
03-14-2009, 11:38 PM
I ordered a 147 gram esp Flick on a recommendation. I throw a lot of tomahaws so I will let you know if I get any more distance than what I am currently using.

It was not for me.

solomon.trenton
03-15-2009, 12:16 AM
It was not for me.

what is the flick? ive never heard of it.

Fore
03-15-2009, 09:26 AM
what is the flick? ive never heard of it.


The Flick is made by Discraft. Here is the link http://www.discraft.com/prod_flick_z.html.

solomon.trenton
03-15-2009, 10:00 AM
i dont think that i would like that too much. way too much fade for me.

Mark R
03-15-2009, 10:50 AM
172 Champion Firebird, if you throw hard enough. Once you find a weight, stick with it.

highwyre237
03-17-2009, 02:04 PM
I am a pretty new player, but I have found that the thumber is my most accurate and usually furthest drive. The majority of the time I use a hand-me-down beat up no.1 flyer (by lightning discs). Its an odd odd disc, with a smaller rim, and ribbed grips making it easier to control when throwing it as hard as possible, even in wet conditions. I'm not positive of the weight, but it feels about 168-170. It has a normal thumber flight path, but I tend to get a nice extra bounce. I've also tried an FLX Avenger(172g) and Z Surge SS (165g) but neither fly as accurate or far. I dont use the tomahawk very often, but i use the same disc when i do.

volklgirl
03-28-2009, 06:14 PM
I was doing thumbers with my Destroyer until I got a Flick. I get much longer flight time and distance with the Flick.

ps. almost all my discs are 150-class.

`cjc
03-28-2009, 08:34 PM
I love the Star FL for tomahawks because it's so damn precitable when broken in. This is the only disc I can tomahawk with precision and it has taken strokes off my game. I can throw it tight spots and it can really jump out there for distance throws in tight fairways. What a great tomahawk disc, the Star FL.

Give it a try.

The Hammer
04-03-2009, 04:22 PM
I throw a lot of thumbers and have tried a lot of different discs. For me a Z Flick will give me the most distance. I can max it out to around 325'. It is also the only disc from Discraft that I carry, so that should say something.

A.Mutt
04-03-2009, 04:38 PM
I learned how to play throwing thumbers and for the last few years used it more than any other shot. My favorite discs to thumb are my Elite X Predators and Tracker. I turn to the Tracker more as I find it easier to place where I want it.

I am curious if anyone throws overhand and has the disc flatten out into an actual flight, or if you guys just get the loop-de-loop that I usually see people get when they overhand.

Would be cool to see an overhand that converts into a flat flight.

Mine don't flatten out but they typically don't loop-de-loop, more of a big arching flight path.

SpringDgLover
05-03-2009, 11:03 PM
I throw thumbers almost exclusively and I have been through a lot of different discs. I have found that the Innova Monster is the best distance thumber on the market it absolutely screams. For touch thumbers I like the Innova Eagle or Discraft XS. I just bought a Discraft Predator and Im excited to try it out since Ive heard alot of good things about it.

ChaseTheAce
05-03-2009, 11:28 PM
Discraft XS is an awesome placement thumber. So controllable

sharris
05-03-2009, 11:51 PM
I throw thumbers almost exclusively and I have been through a lot of different discs. I have found that the Innova Monster is the best distance thumber on the market it absolutely screams. For touch thumbers I like the Innova Eagle or Discraft XS. I just bought a Discraft Predator and Im excited to try it out since Ive heard alot of good things about it.


Predator is a great disc for all out distance. Give it a little height has a very slow turn.

hippiediscdude
05-05-2009, 06:23 PM
Love my Z Flick for overhand shots. I can get my thumbers to finish with a roll almost every time great for throwing over stuff. I also throw this disc overhand when I end up in a mess off of the fairway or on holes that have way too many trees. Also a great side arm disc! Love my Z Flick!

pip17
07-04-2009, 07:14 PM
visit this website to see all the best discs for whatever you want http://www.discgolfreview.com/resources/bestof.shtml

solomon.trenton
07-04-2009, 10:26 PM
visit this website to see all the best discs for whatever you want http://www.discgolfreview.com/resources/bestof.shtml

thanks thats a great asset. maybe we should posts this as a sticky, tim or eric?

imoser_me
07-04-2009, 11:09 PM
not to be picky, but that website was last updated 5-12-06. Not that three years will change everything on the list, but I would bet that there needs to be a few updates since then.

I personally throw a DX Banshee for my tomahawk and thumber duties. I have amazed people I play with with the consistency and distance (sometimes vertical distance) I get with it. I only use it for trouble shots and strategic tee shots where going over obstacles is the best idea.

The disc usually flips at the end of the flight and curves the direction of the top of the disc when you threw it. For example, a right handed thumber will end flying right because the top was facing right when you threw it. It took me a few throws to figure this out, but it really helps to know for shot placement.

rybassett
07-05-2009, 04:35 PM
Champion Eagle

80playedin10states
07-05-2009, 06:07 PM
monster/flick...the more stable the better

Adaven
07-06-2009, 01:05 AM
I have a question, does the weight matter? My Discraft Xtra is in the 170's and I was curious if something in the 150's would do something different.

80playedin10states
07-06-2009, 09:12 AM
the lighter the plastic, usually the less stable the disc will act...

Ryan P.
07-06-2009, 09:43 AM
are overstable discs really the best for these shots?

wtafro
07-06-2009, 09:43 AM
Use the Epic. It was the only way I could use that stupid disc.

80playedin10states
07-06-2009, 09:45 AM
for me, overstable works best...to each his own...whatever works for you...field practice is the best way to determine what disc/weight you will get the best results with...

CwAlbino
07-06-2009, 11:30 AM
are overstable discs really the best for these shots?

for distance I use overstable discs, but for (what I call) pancakes, I use understable plastic. Understable when thrown vertical will flip and land top down and slide, this can be very useful midrange when you don't want a roll or fade.


as for best thumbers/tomahawks for me

Epic (thumber distance)
Illusion (thumber/tomahawk and can also do a good pancake)
Teerex (thumber)
Banshee (shorter range Illusion, but the pancake has to be more forced (released more at 100 degree angle, 0 being sidearm))
Flick (thumber)
XL (thumber)

edit: right now I use a sidewinder for a pancake

Ryan P.
07-06-2009, 12:15 PM
I've always heard that more overstable discs flip more slowly when thrown overhand. How would a more understable disc be better at throwing a pancake then? Wouldn't it flip over faster?

CwAlbino
07-06-2009, 12:19 PM
I've always heard that more overstable discs flip more slowly when thrown overhand. How would a more understable disc be better at throwing a pancake then? Wouldn't it flip over faster?

Overstable discs spike to the ground, because they resist the turn. Understable discs flip and flatten out, landing top down on the ground. Overstable discs will land on edge and roll, and can be devastating to a well placed mid-range tomahawk when it rolls away from the basket and down the hill......

80playedin10states
07-06-2009, 12:30 PM
once again, that is his opinion..understable discs flip too fast and go nowhere(for me)

Lewis
07-06-2009, 02:05 PM
once again, that is his opinion..understable discs flip too fast and go nowhere(for me)

It really depends on how far you're trying to throw it. Understable discs don't do well for tomahawk distance because once they flip underside up they start to stall out.

CwAlbino
07-06-2009, 02:47 PM
once again, that is his opinion..understable discs flip too fast and go nowhere(for me)

that's why I said mid-range tomahawk. I don't throw these far, what I call pancakes are not distance throws. If you throw an understable disc too hard it will do exactly as you say, stall out and go nowhere fast. But try being within 100-150 feet of the basket where you need to sneak in an approach without overshooting or rolling. Tomahawking an understable disc and letting it hit the ground 20-25 feet before the basket and sliding up to the pin is a good way (for me) to make an approach sometimes. It can be done with an overstable disc, but has to be released almost top down when thrown. That can be an awkward and even painful throw if thrown harder than just a short flick. I use this shot a lot on hard, non-grassy areas.


(my opinion, also 100-150 is a short tomahawk for me, may be different for others)

80playedin10states
07-06-2009, 03:43 PM
good call, i lost out on the mid range part...

Technohic
07-28-2009, 02:11 PM
I have 2 Banshees that I have for tomahawks that neither one of them have lived up to expectations of the first one I had that a friend lost.

My old one would rocket out to the top of the flight, then on its way down flip over flat and glide, giving me more distance from the hill I throw off when I do this. I never could get the other 2 to do it.

Should I try an Epic?

CwAlbino
07-28-2009, 02:17 PM
I have 2 Banshees that I have for tomahawks that neither one of them have lived up to expectations of the first one I had that a friend lost.

My old one would rocket out to the top of the flight, then on its way down flip over flat and glide, giving me more distance from the hill I throw off when I do this. I never could get the other 2 to do it.

Should I try an Epic?

If you liked the glide that you SOMEHOW managed with the banshee, try the epic. Try tuning your banshees as well, bend the flight plate down (look at the top of the disc, bend the rim down). I am guessing your first banshee was warped or bent so it would fly like that.

volklgirl
07-28-2009, 02:23 PM
The Epic has totally given me an overhand game. Before getting it, my tommy and thumber would just go up then spike right into the ground or roll. Now I get a beautiful barrel roll and awesome distance (for me....80-100' rather than just 30-50').

For downhill shots I still use my 150 Flick cuz it's light weight and the downhill gives it time to soar and flip.

SpringDgLover
07-28-2009, 02:35 PM
For me I would say the best thumber disc is the SL. It is long like a Monster but has a very predictable high speed turn and goes where I want it everytime.

Technohic
07-28-2009, 02:36 PM
If you liked the glide that you SOMEHOW managed with the banshee, try the epic. Try tuning your banshees as well, bend the flight plate down (look at the top of the disc, bend the rim down). I am guessing your first banshee was warped or bent so it would fly like that.

Im pretty sure it was. Ive tried just beating on the other 2 by throwing it into trees against the wall and no go. Maybe a more controlled approach to it would do it. :D

I probably would have tried that before but just didnt know why it would fly like that other than it was beat up and no idea how specifically it would be warped.

CwAlbino
07-28-2009, 02:39 PM
Im pretty sure it was. Ive tried just beating on the other 2 by throwing it into trees against the wall and no go. Maybe a more controlled approach to it would do it. :D

I probably would have tried that before but just didnt know why it would fly like that other than it was beat up and no idea how specifically it would be warped.

:) I like the beating against trees. For an epic, I tune that one down or up depending on which way I want. Tuning it down will make it roll more so that's why I suggested doing that to the banshee. Just basically taco it in your hands. If by doing this all the way around the edge, you bend the flight plate up, make sure you flatten the flight plate back again. This can be done by holding the edges and pressing with your fingers on the center plate.

I have an old DX banshee I may try this with now that I'm trying to get you to do it :)

blackandwhite
07-28-2009, 02:41 PM
I like to use my monster for both.

any other discs (innova in brand) that work well for the thumber/tomahawk? I dont do them all that often but want to be able to throw them both well with a good disc in the event i need to throw a particular hole/lie

CwAlbino
07-28-2009, 02:43 PM
I like to use my monster for both.

any other discs (innova in brand) that work well for the thumber/tomahawk? I dont do them all that often but want to be able to throw them both well with a good disc in the event i need to throw a particular hole/lie

Some people like the beast, I like the teerex. The banshee is another good one

Technohic
07-28-2009, 02:44 PM
Well I have 2 and neither one is great, they work ok, but I dont get the "Wow" from my friends when I throw them like I got when I used to throw the other ones. I can keep one as the less desired but at least funtional back up and experiment on the other.

It was funny; the same friend that lost my old one was the same friend who gave it to me early on when I first started playing. there is one hole where the tee is set up perfect for a tommy, or you can Anny around; which is what he started doing so he just gave it to me and it did that a few times, with all of them in awl of how it flew for me there unti he decided he wanted it back to try it again, thus losing it for good.

ajkuck
12-18-2012, 06:00 PM
172g Beast, been throwing it 300 ft. for years. Everybody tells me to switch to a more overstable disc like a Nuke OS, but I'm not a fan

E3D4523
12-18-2012, 06:18 PM
170-172 FLAT TOP Firebird. Throw it and watch it glide. The rim is perfect size for thumbers. A Nuke OS WTF. I was throwing Beasts and domey Firebirds. Than a buudy bought a FLAT TOP Firebird. I threw it a few times. Easy to get it out past 300ft.
Now i have 5 backups. I call it the LIFE PLAN.

bdodson
12-18-2012, 06:20 PM
gummy monster. try it and you will believe. or watch me and same results

DG addict24
12-18-2012, 06:36 PM
I love throwing apes for thumbers, even though there's no way i can use it for anything else, i have one in my bag at all times.

Um...
12-18-2012, 06:49 PM
XXX

Nice necrobump. :clap:

Kingace
12-18-2012, 06:51 PM
I used to throw 150 ESP flicks and they bombed.

Too bad my shoulder doesn't like it.