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I know this is pointed at Ish and I. Sorry we did that but we did play by the rules. I think that we should go with either A or B. Those are my choices. I heard about the looks y'all gave Noah for subbing for us. Its all good cuz I thought it was funny. We can fix this rule if need be.
I vote for "F".... actually I like the one where 1 registered member has to be there, there are 2 registered players per team, and there is a drop week (that leaves it open if there is the scenario when neither member can make it)
"D" 1. Scott M.- obviously someone brought it up but as Scott K. said- it was ok. I personally didn't mind a bit.
At White Birch we allowed subs with no drop week. Dave MaCormack and John Ruvalacaba showed up as subs for a team one night, and of course Davey Mac and Robo torched the field. Some people grumbled, but everybody got over it. That was a lot worse than Noah subbing for Ish and Scott.
At White Birch the league was scored differently. At the end of each night you were awarded points based on the number of teams you beat, so in our league if you had the hot round you would get 4 points. Every week is weighted the same no matter if you win one by one stroke or 10 strokes. It keeps you from getting a huge lead based off of one hot round like both of the leaders have right now. If we were using that system with a drop week, right now the standings would look like this:
From my experience, good teams with the potential to shred the course hate a points system. They feel like if you beat the field by 10 strokes you should get credit for that. Solid teams like a point system because it rewards consistency and keeps teams from having a really hot night and running away. Bad teams don't care because they can't win either way. As you might have guessed, I really don't care.
So we could go to a points system as well. We have a lot of options.
I am the one that brought this up to Scott and I have no shame in admitting it. I started off my communication to him by saying that I realize that no rules were broken and nothing should/can be done about it this weekend. With that said, it is pretty ridiculous to me that a team could have no representative from the paying duo that is playing, and yet still produce a positive score that week. It never even occurred to me that there would be a situation where that would happen. My vote is for B...I also support keeping the current scoring system.
The problem I have with that is the low numbers. If Scott and Ish know they have scheduling problems before the league starts (which they did) and there is a very good chance that both of them are going to miss two weeks, they probably don't sign up if they know they are going to be hung with a 90 in a stroke play league. If they don't sign up, we have seven teams. Seven teams ain't gonna cut it.
If you use the point system, they take a one out of four. If we were using the point system they would be hanging on to first with two no-show weeks even without figuring a drop week. If we use the strokes with the 90 they are buried in last with no hope of crawling up to third because of that 90. To me that indicates that the 90 score for a no-show is too punitive.
Basically if you no-show, you are done. That would be fine by me if we had 20 teams and things were great. We could possible turn a team away and not be all that worried about it. Things are not great, however. This league is struggling big-time. I'm very hesitant to implement anything that will cause us to lose teams, since we can't afford to lose anybody.
If you want to keep it a stroke league, you have to figure out a way that a no-show doesn't kill you. One approach I saw was using a teams worst score as the default score if they don't show for up to two weeks. It is somewhat interesting to note that if we did that, Scott and Ish would have been given a default 53 instead of the 54 Noah shot.
I see your point Justin. It was a crappy situation where Scott and I both were not gonna be there. I knew I was gonna miss 4/8 weeks when I signed up for the league (Scott was in desperate need of a partner) in hopes that Scott would be able to play cali the weeks I wasn't there. Well, as you know, it didn't work out like that. We couldn't afford two 90 stroke weeks, because like Kickbush said, we would have had no shot at winning. Although Noah is a solid fill-in for us, we didn't call up Nikko to play cali for us... so I don't see it as a big deal. Either we are allowed the sub or our whole Spring League is ruined...
I would vote for a system where subs can be used if 1 or both of the registered users are absent... Even to me the rule sounds wacky. However, I am voting like this only due to the fact that I would miss so many days of league (My tues nights are usually booked during the school year)... it's the only way I can play and actually have a shot at winning.
288 378 Ish Keener/Scott McNair
294 351 Darrin Francis/Andy Roden 51
299 352 Justin Renaud/Justin Cook 51 53(d) 51 48 48 52 49
347 437 Josh Dautenhahn/Trey Newsom 50
90(d) 52 55 51 90
324 414 Aaron Horner/Steven Berg 56 58 90(d)
335 394 Nathan Hall/Bill Wiggins
57 56 59(d) 54
343 403 Daniel Chapman/Jeremy Schweiss 56 60(d) 57 60
367 430 Paul Adair/Scott Kickbusch 63(d) 60 61 62 62 59 63
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