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Truthfully, B changes nothing. Say Paul can't be there next week and I have Noah sub for him. We tee off and play Noah's drive, then take Noah's upshot for a drop-in three. The result is the same if I'm there or not. What you all seem to be saying is that it is a legitimate score for my team if I walk around and watch him but it's bogus if I'm not there to watch him, which makes no sense to me.
If it's that big a deal, don't allow subs and force the guy who is there to play Cali.
In regards to the "ultimatum" from the City, where did you get that? The league is weak numbers-wise. Anybody can see that. We have the smallest turn-out in this league than we have ever had. I was thinking we would have around 15 teams this spring, but we have eight. I'm not at all happy with eight teams. That's not an "ultimatum," that's a reality. That's not coming from the City, that's coming from me.
You were not here, Scott. I started the league. I went to the Lion's Club and got jerked around. A lot of not calling back, no straight answers, nobody being able to tell me who was in charge. I went to the City, and the City said play golf. So I set it up with the City and we played golf.
So now we are here over a year later and we still don't have a straight answer from the Lion's Club on use of that course. I'm not sure why the City is the bad guy now, they are the ones that said play golf.
There are points on disc golf scene because that site will not add up a stroke league. If you leave it as strokes it adds up like points and lists the last place team first. The site kinda sucks, we use it more as an advertising tool. The more places you can get out the word that you have something going on, that sort of thing.
HAHA I never looked at it that way. Good way to look at it.
I see what you are saying. I don't mean to throw mud in anyones face. I know you have done a lot to get this club going and for one I really appreciate it. I was just throwing it out there. I wish we could do something but as you just said you were yanked around and could never get a straight answer.
The league is what it is...I am glad that we have 14 people from our club interested in playing. We can't pull people out of our butt to play in this thing. Your analogy is pretty extreme with the Paul/ Noah example, but that is the way that this league was set-up and has always been played. if it was such a bad system, why have we done it this way for 4 seasons? All I am suggesting is that we enforce a rule that 95 percent of the people that have played already 'assumed' existed. You are the one that gave 4 options for us to use in thew league. You wanted a discussion and a vote and now you are getting. You vote counts just as much as everyone else's. If you have one, then throw it in the ring. Don't call us dumb by implying B changes nothing, because I obviously don't agree.
I honestly wouldn't mind getting rid of the Cali rule...that would be okay with me. Give you even more motivation to have the whole team there. And if you weren't there for the night 'just walking' with a partner...the other 'alternate' sub WOULD GET an additional shot per hole (cali rules)...so really...it isn't the same.
I didn't call anybody dumb. If anybody is dumb it is me, because I can't see the big deal with this. I ran leagues in St. Louis for years using the rule we have now and it was fine. We can run with B, no big deal to me. I'm always there anyway.
All I'm saying is that B isn't perfect. It still allows a sub, and if a team gets a really good sub one week it can blow up the standings. A couple of UMR kids could be hanging back in the B Flight, then get Jarvis to sub for a couple weeks and blow into first. What I'm hearing from you guys tells me you would not like that even though you are voting for B, but B leaves that loophole open. B forces one of the two players to be there anyway, so just completely close the loophole, say no subs and the guy who is there plays Cali. I'd go all the way and say option A.
If we can somehow advertise this summer league better we may be able to get more. Like how bad we need a board at LC so people can see what is going on. Other then that IDK the best way to tell people.
So if you get rid of Cali something like this will happen... You or your partner cut your throwing hand wide open and have to go to the ER and get stitches on a tuesday. That person will have to miss that week and the next week. You would not be able to play because the Cali rule is gone. Your team just got knocked to last place.
I would have to say that they way it is set up now is in B but we bent the rule of allowing a sub and got this thing going. Did it happen yes, did I not think it would be a big deal, YES, is it that big of a deal, NO if I thought it would be I would not have done it.. Its done and over there is only one week left and lets move on to the next league.
Now saying that I think B is the way to go as long as one of the team members is there to allow a sub. If there is no sub play Cali.
Ber Juan Park Disc Golf
General Competition Rules for Organized Events
All Ber Juan singles events will be played using PDGA rules. Any exceptions to those rules will be outlined in the players meeting prior to the event. The rules of disc golf can be found online at:
Rulings will be decided by group decision. If the group cannot reach a decision, the effected player or team should declare provisional throws and complete the hole using both lies. The Tournament Director will determine which score should stand at the completion of the round.
Doubles events using Best Disc rules will be played using the following:
• Both players throw from each lie (starting with the tee shot), then the team chooses which of the resulting lies to continue play from, until the hole is completed.
• Players who do not have a partner can play using California (Cali) rules. That player can take one additional shot during each hole.
League winners are determined using the best seven out of eight scores. Teams receive one “drop week.”
If one members of a team cannot make a scheduled league, one member of the team can play “Cali” rules or a substitute can be used for the missing player. If both players cannot make a scheduled league night, the drop week must be used. If the drop week has already been used, the team will receive a score of 90.
All Ber Juan events are restricted to PDGA legal discs only. A list of approved disc can be found online at
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