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Oh yeah... I also wanted to tell you that I'm going to be totally tied up with some very important family priorities until at least Dec 5th so I most likely won't be able to post anything again until after that time.
Do not waste a minute away from your family bro. Take all the time you need. It felt good just writing it, even if you end up not replying. Happy Thanksgiving to you my brother and to everyone!
"The resurrection of Jesus is the cornerstone of Christian faith. If it didn't happen the Christianity is not true."
That's right, and there's no good evidence suggesting resurrection occurs, yet people still have faith and believe in this ancient myth. I can point to various gods, demigods and humans of the ancient world who were also raised from the dead. In Jesus' time, and long before, such claims were commonplace and so his alleged resurrection is virutally meaningless. "Christianity" is simply a matter of cultural programming, that much is true.
A FACT TO PONDER:
Horus was the son of the god Osiris. 3 wise men announced the birth of Horus from a virgin mother in a cave on December 25th. He was called the Lord of Lords and the King of Kings and came in human form. Horus said, "I and my Father are one." He had 12 disciples and was baptized. He walked on water and was called the KRST or "anointed one". He suffered for his people and rose after his death. This story came 1500 years before the Christian bible was even a thought.
If you truly care to know the truth about what you believe in, you should research things like this for yourself and not take other people's word for it. Don't believe me, look it up. You owe it to yourself to learn about it instead of spending your precious life on something your told is true.
Try reading about Attis of Phrygia, Krishna, and Apollonius of Tyana as well.
I wish you luck on your own personal journey.
If you really are open minded you might want to check your "facts" about Horus. The words "not true" and "fringe pseudo-science" stand out to me.
"One theory finds similarities between the Egyptian god Horus and Jesus. Writer Gerald Massey argued that the deity of Horus and Jesus shared identical mythological origins in his 1907 book Ancient Egypt, the light of the world. Most contemporary Egyptologists believe these parallels are not true and are pseudo-scientific. W. Ward Gasque conducted a world-wide poll of twenty leading Egyptologists to verify if there was any academic support for these claims. The scholars were unanimous in dismissing the claimed parallels. One scholar, who called it "fringe nonsense", also cautioned that "[e]gyptology has the unenviable distinction of being one of those disciplines that almost anyone can lay claim to, and the unfortunate distinction of being probably the one most beleaguered by false prophets." Although considered fringe pseudo-science, Massey's views have nonetheless been repeated by Toronto Star columnist Tom Harpur, author Acharya S, political comedian Bill Maher, and even the British Broadcasting Company."
I haven't read every word, but
is a detailed rebuttal to the claims about Horus.
There are also detailed responses about every other alleged parallel. Check
If you are open minded I think that you should do more research first.
That's right, and there's no good evidence suggesting resurrection occurs, yet people still have faith and believe in this ancient myth.
is so uninformed that it is not worthy of a reply.
I know that nothing written on a message board will convince you, so it's pointless to add anything here. If you are really open minded then I suggest that you read one of the many books that have been written on the subject or at the very least listen to one of the many debates where the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus is presented. You really should look into it because there are eternal consequences at stake.
Olorin, I never said anything about them being identical. The bible is as close to pseudo science as any of this stuff. The Bible was written by humans. That is a fact. It was voted on by a committee of which books should be included and which would not be. That is a fact. THe whole book is contradictions that make a sane person nuts. Anyone who actually reads the darn thing is mortified by the horrible killing, slavery support, abuse to women and children and the many contradictions are just nuts.
You really should look into it because there are eternal consequences at stake.
On this if I live a good life (volunteering, helping the needy, etc) and my only "Downfall" is that I don't believe in God. Does that mean when I die I am going to burn in hell for all eternity despite all the good I did for those around me? And if not hell where do I end up?
If I would end up in hell then how could that truly be a loving God? How could a God that pretty much says, "Worship me or burn forever" be a compassionate God when he is saying what every "evil" dictator has said.
Genesis 1:11-12 and 1:26-27 Trees came before Adam.
Genesis 2:4-9 Trees came after Adam.
Genesis 1:20-21 and 26-27 Birds were created before Adam.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:19 Birds were created after Adam.
Genesis 1:24-27 Animals were created before Adam.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:19 Animals were created after Adam.
Genesis 1:26-27 Adam and Eve were created at the same time.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:21-22 Adam was created first, woman sometime later.
Matthew 10:34-35 -King James Version (KJV)
34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Who said this? Jesus did.
I'm just saying if you want to break down every part of every other story told before the bible, then you have to be willing to break your own book down the same way.
(I purposely left out the really horrid stuff, because it is not necessary to show that stuff, to see this book has no idea what it is really talking about.)
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