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searight vs Cat Hollow
Why do people that love searight hate Cat Hollow. Searight IMO is alot easier and 10 times more crowded. I just dont get the whole cat hollow sucks thing. I think its mainly because all the ppl that hate it think they should shoot in the 40s at cat but dont. Then they blame the course and say its to easy. What are your thoughts.
Cat Hollow is Searight of the North.
Both courses you
shoot good but can be difficult to break Par if you don't execute (of course that's anywhere). I have been shooting above par at Searight like 4 times outta five and then I'll be like 6-under. I would not say Searight is easier, they are relatively the same difficulty. Both have a few longer holes. Cat Hollow is more open.
I don't dislike Cat Hollow because I think it's too easy, I dislike it because there are some bad holes out there and the flow is less than stellar, which has nothing to do with how you should score.
I think hole #4 over the hill is a prime example of this. If you have never or rarely played there before, you have to walk over half the hole to know where the basket is located. You cannot tell if people are still throwing, and after you finish it you have to cross through another hole's FAIRWAY to get to the next teepad. That's just bad design, I'm sorry to say. #5 also, ppl always think they should be throwing at the wrong basket to the left. Poor design/signage.
I like all the holes that have wooded fairways, those are fun. But others, for example, like the little flick holes near the end are kinda silly. Just my opinion. I love hole #16 with the tight tunnel, that's a great hole. #17 should be the last hole as it's also the signature hole I think, no question. #18 is bland and leads away from parking.
None of my reasons have to do with the difficulty level, however, beginners definitely enjoy this place and that's because there are so many short holes. The longer holes here are basically wide open whereas at Searight (#3, #12) the long holes can be played as Par 4's since there are more trees/canopies to deal with. I prefer these technical aspects to playing in the open myself.
Searight's signature hole #15 is superior in my opinion to any signature hole at Cat. It's one of the most unique downhill shots in Austin, period. I have always wanted to ace that hole more than almost any other around.
Also I just prefer playing technical woods and Searight offers more of that.
As far as the wait, I think Roy G is gonna help a lot in that regard. The last 3 times I have played Searight, there was no wait on hole #1 and no real waiting on other cards the rest of the way, I couldn't believe it. That's playing on weekends, too.
I just prefer Searight (and Brushy Nine) for my style of play, and I never really have much fun at Cat. Too many short holes with a singular line, and the long holes are nothing special. I could care less for it. I'm very glad other people like it though, as it keeps the DG population spread out that much more for other (better) courses. If I am driving out that way, I am playing Brushy Nine or Wilco, plain and simple.
I had no bias moving from East Texas last year, and I played many of these courses for the first time since then, including Cat. Cat Hollow is not one of the better courses in the Austin area. It's not even a superior course in it's immediate area. I'm not trying to be a "hater", but you are asking legitimate reasons and those are mine.
But inevitably someone will disagree with your stance in the universe. I freaking LOVE Brushy Nine, it's probably my favorite course to play just because it's all technical woods, is very challenging, and is extremely tough to replicate throws from one round to the next. When you do well on any throw/hole/All9 it is more rewarding and it gets me psyched. But for those same reasons I am guessing most of Sin Tex probably hates it.
I'm not saying it sucks, any place that has disc golf baskets setup in a course-like fashion is fine by me. But with the insanely good course selection we have around here, this is one of the last places I would personally choose to play.
Old Settlers Winter
Then somewhere after those is Cat Hollow for me personally. NO OFFENSE
This is kinda interesting, just did a course length comparison.
Cat Hollow = 291 ft avg/hole with (2) marked Par 4's
Searight = 286.5 ft avg/hole with (2) marked Par 4's
Cat Hollow is indeed Searight of the North!
Anyway course ratings are completely arbitrary based on each player's frame of reference.
Still, I would be interested to know if and why you think Cat Hollow is better than any of the courses in this list?
Old Settlers Winter
I could see someone selecting Bart since there are only 15 holes and chinchy baskets. But Cain and I especially out of Sin Tex members love Bart.
I think it's great to have an old school course like that with so many memorable holes. Actually every hole has some memorable feature. Then almost every single hole has some crazy elevation change involved, that's a HUGE plus for me. Yes it's windy out there but that adds some character/drama to an already tough course. It is VERY tough to crack Par. I really wish they would get the 3 baskets back in and finish it up...
I feel like cat is more technical than searight for sure. then again im throwing putters and mids on 13 of the 18 holes and actually shooting the gaps as they were designed. If you take the easiest line possible then yeah I could see it not being a technical course.
I havent claimed that Cat is better than any of the bigger courses. I do feel that a course is what you make of it though. If you are only going to it to score then yeah cat is a cakewalk. If you use it to hone and perfect certain types of throws IE controlled mid and putter shots then it is one of the best courses to do that on.
Im not knocking anyone for using high speed drivers to throw a little over 200 feet but... really
To miss fairways from 4 to 5 its as simple as walking over to the hiking path and heading to 5. Its right there.
Right on. I didn't think you were saying Cat was better than anywhere else but I was curious if you really like it more than those others. It's definitely a good course for honing mid/putter shots. I think a lot of people like Cat more than Bart and Brushy.
The reason I am so down on Cat compared to other places is this:
Say you have a buddy come to town that wants to check out some
Austin Disc Golf courses. Would you say, "Oh man, you HAVE to go play Cat Hollow"? I think the answer would be no. It's one of the last places I would take a visitor, and I just think Brushy 9 and Wilco are superior in that area, in that regard. They are more memorable courses is all I'm saying. There is not a single hole at Cat that blows me away, aesthetically speaking.
That doesn't mean it's not fun or a cool course, it just doesn't rank all that well with those in my list, for me personally.
Now put Cat Hollow in my hometown and I would play there all the time and be fine with it. But put it in an area with major selection and it doesn't stand out. It's like picking Keystone Light instead of craft beer; it's OK and all but a connoisseur is gonna go with some fancy beer with more body and flavor.
I'm sure you see what I'm saying.
I hear ya. I would definitely take an out of towner to Manor over Cat, not so much wilco though because it is so bland and flat with the same shot over and over.
I like course that allow the opportunity to air it out and also have tight wooded shots. Manor CC cat all have great variety in shots vs Wilco riv and B9. Wilco is one of my least favorite course simply because it is totally flat and repetitive. Like you said its all a matter of taste
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