You can really lose some discs in the western vegetation. Played at Arroyo Chimasos in Santa Fe in 2010 on vacation and spent time looking inside some of those bushes. Found all of my discs and had fun though. 2 of 7 locals zapped me on the review. Guess because I did the 9 hole config and reviewed that, rather than the 18 config. I really enjoy New Mexico. Hope to play a round in Roswell sometime.