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cjrogus 02-12-2014 03:15 PM

Hole lengths a need?
 
How often do you actually use the hole length when deciding what disc to throw? I don't think I've ever used a hole length to make me change my disc selection. I can tell where my discs are going to land and how far they will go so why should I use a length.
The only way I could see it helping is when the elevation is changing and there fore might play a little longer or shorter than it actually does but I've only seen a handful of signs that display that kind of info.

Also, how should you measure the distance? Should it be absolute length or flight of the perfect shot. Should a hole that goes 300ft straight then dogleg 50ft right be 304ft(the length of the hypotenuse) or closer to 340(the length of the discs flight?

bradharris 02-12-2014 03:22 PM

On my home course, I don't need it.

But on other courses, I always look at the distance before deciding what to throw. I know about how far I can throw each disc on different lines, so knowing with certainty how far away the pin is is really helpful in disc selection.

I also find that I struggle to accurately judge distance on my own, so trying to make those selections by sight alone often does not turn out well for me.

mashnut 02-12-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bradharris (Post 2352596)
On my home course, I don't need it.

But on other courses, I always look at the distance before deciding what to throw. I know about how far I can throw each disc on different lines, so knowing with certainty how far away the pin is is really helpful in disc selection.

I also find that I struggle to accurately judge distance on my own, so trying to make those selections by sight alone often does not turn out well for me.

Pretty much this. I can figure it out without hole lengths, but depth perception is sometimes tricky with different baskets installed at different heights with different kinds of foliage around. Having the hole lengths makes it a little easier to pick a disc the first time you throw a hole.

bobmcnelly 02-12-2014 03:29 PM

When I'm playing a new course I usually find them very helpful. Especially shots over 300'.

Exovel 02-12-2014 03:30 PM

I use them, yes. I know how far I throw each disc from field testing. Then, if I know the length, it makes me more confident in disc selection. The elevation changes and doglegs I have to take into account myself, obviously, but it's not a perfect system. Still, I don't like playing courses without posted lengths as much. But also I hate tee signs that suggest lines to take. Not that it relates to the topic at hand, but it's true.

Stardoggy 02-12-2014 03:36 PM

I suck big time at judging distance on anything over 150', so I definitely depend on hole distances from hole to hole on new courses.

I have a buddy that throws the same three distance drivers at anything over 100', and he rarely cares about distance.

Highway Bill 02-12-2014 05:53 PM

Hole length is a crucial piece of information that should be displayed clearly on a sign near each tee box. Assuming similarly powered throws, different discs vary greatly in average travel distance. I always take the length of the hole into consideration when choosing my implement of doom.

SteezeOG 02-12-2014 06:19 PM

I think I'm a pretty good judge of distance from shooting and hunting but I still want it listed and use it on a new hole or as a reminder if I haven't played it in a while. Also if I'm playing with someone who hasn't been there before I don't want to have to tell them what it is so a nice informative tee sign that includes distance should always be used when possible.

smarkquart 02-12-2014 06:27 PM

For the most part by just looking at a hole I can decide whether I am driving with a putter or a maximum distance drivers. If it is those middle distances that are longer than a putter or shorter than max distance, then I definitely want to know. For me there is a huge difference between 280 and 320; do I stretch out a mid or finesse a fairway driver? 320, definitely a fairway driver if no elevation is involved. 280, going for it with a line drive mid.

KniceZ 02-12-2014 06:32 PM

I not very good at estimating distance so I always use them when playing a new course. I'd even like to see 100 ft markers along the way on long holes.


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