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burntneuron 09-01-2011 05:37 PM

Jacquard iDye Poly -- Rit Replacement
 
I've always seen Jacquard iDye Poly next to the RIT at craft stores and been curious about it. My girlfriend recently used the iDye for natural fibers to dye some white denim for making knife rolls and had vary good results with it. She had also picked up a packet of the iDye poly Black to see if it would work on discs. The first test last night was a success and it seems we may have found a readily available replacement for RIT dye.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2...heezburger.jpg

The package contains a sealed water soluble packet of dye and a color intensifier that I did not use in the first test, unsure of exactly what it contained. I emailed Jacquard to find out more info last night and asked about a color chart and if they planned to release any other colors in the Poly line of dyes. They responded quickly this is what I was told:

Quote:

Thank you for your inquiry. First, iDye Poly Intensifier is a carrier to help get more dye into the substrate. Second, an MSDS for this product can be found on the safety section of our website. Only hazardous ingredients are listed and acetone is not named. We do not believe it is a component of this product. Third, testing will be necessary to determine if these products will work for this particular application. Lastly, we do not offer a color mixing chart and do not have any plans, currently, to release any more colors in the line. However, maybe we will re-evaluate in the future. Let me know if you have any further questions or concerns.

Sincerely,

Jenny Rene
Customer Service Supervisor
I think the intensifier being a carrier would just lead to a more fuzzing and bleeding over time if it leads to deeper penetration of the plastic, but I don't think it would be harmful to the disc or stencil. Could also be useful for dyeing lower grade plastics like Zero, DX, and pro d, but only testing will tell. If anyone has a good chemistry background, the MSDS for the intensifier will probably provide some clues.

The Good: Much higher quality than RIT, being a specialized dye and not general purpose like RIT it does not contain salt which is needed for natural fibers. The dye comes in a sealed packet that dissolves in water which makes things much easier to work with and no dye powder flying around to get on your fingers or make a mess with. A little extra stirring and hunting to make sure it's completely dissolved, but iDye seems thicker and completely dissolves much quicker and more thoroughly than RIT powder. It says to let it simmer for 30 minutes, but about 10 minutes sitting just below a simmer produced a good dye bath in 32oz of water.

As for the dyeing, there were 2 dips, the first for ~5 minutes and a second for 2, total time in the dye about 7 minutes. It took very quickly and evenly, and seems more vibrant a black on this first test. Compared to the purple undertones in RIT's black, iDye is more on the blue side although not nearly as noticeable. For a thin champion disc, it looks much more black than the results I've seen from RIT's black on similar plastic. Curious to see how it turns out on a white disc.

The Bad: I tired some of the regular red she used for dyeing the denim on a white star disc and it didn't take at all, so make sure to get the iDye Poly, the regular iDye does not work.

Slightly more expensive at $3.59 vs. $2.49 for powdered RIT, but same price as liquid RIT. It's also easily available in bulk from jacquard. The only downside is they currently only make iDye poly in 8 colors: Black, Brown, Green, Blue, Violet, Red, Orange, Yellow. While mixing is possible, they don't currently offer a color chart like RIT to help out and I'm not sure some colors could be made like fuchsia, lighter shades of blue, and greys. But they do have most of base colors most commonly used, and maybe with enough demand from us they'll put out more.

More testing and experimenting with different colors, different plastics, and different dyeing methods needs to be done. It looks to be a good replacement so far, especially for black and it should be easy to find at most big craft stores. I'll keep updates coming as we experiment and hopefully some others will try it out so we can get a good consensus on this dye which seems to be a much higher quality and see what methods work.

zenbot 09-01-2011 05:43 PM

Great post! Thank you.

Hyzer's 09-01-2011 06:06 PM

Thanks for the review.

BennettUA 09-01-2011 07:52 PM

First off, nice dye, I lol'd :hfive:

Second, great find. I have never seen or heard of this stuff -- I think the hobby/craft stores in the South cater to different, grandmother-y needs. :confused: I've never seen anything but Tulip brand(crap) and Rit.

If you try any colors, please keep us updated.

Oh yeah -- GREAT WRITE-UP.

Thorough.

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Eky8 09-01-2011 08:16 PM

Nice. Hopefully I can find this somewhere close to my house.

BennettUA 09-01-2011 08:42 PM

I think based on your results with the black alone, I'm going to try this line out. Eight colors is enough to work into a rainbow of combinations, and I have plenty of plastic to test with.

For just under $34, you can get all 8 colors of the iDye Poly, shipped.

Eky8 09-01-2011 09:52 PM

Currently on sale here :) $2.84/box just over $31.00 shipped to my house.

burntneuron 09-01-2011 10:18 PM

Thanks everybody, glad I could contribute back to the community. Hopefully this stuff works out well, I just picked up Red and Yellow for a star disc I'm working on and I'll post up pics once it's done.

burntneuron 09-01-2011 10:41 PM

Here's a picture of everything included with the dye packages just to give everyone an idea what they're looking for, though Bennett and Eky already found some good links if you're going to buy it online.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g...2/iDyePoly.jpg

BennettUA 09-01-2011 10:53 PM

Can't wait to see how colors turn out, show me the red/yellow results and I'll buy the whole rainbow


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