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tom12003 12-13-2012 12:43 AM

TRASH
 
I continually hear about trash (specifically beer cans/bottles) overflowing available trash cans/bags on a course (ugly representative of our sport). It IS a problem. What to do about it? I have no answer. I only offer my perspective. Signs are usually offered, but who respects signs?

As a course director (Plantraion Ruins, here in Charlotte NC), we have only 3-4 trash containers over our 18 holes--where Parks and Rec have easy access. I tried to hang a trash bag on every hole; these ended up filling up very quickly. It did not work. When I removed easy access (bags/cans) to dump trash, the trash virtually disappeared. YEA DGers. Who would have thought? Yea, there are a few random idiots that leave their trash, but the problem is LESS than when there were trash options.

Am blessed to have a cadre of DGers who help keep the course as clean as possible.

walker139 12-13-2012 01:11 AM

I have pondered the same thing. Is it worth it to bring in the trash containers? Or post a "Carry out what you carry in" sign?
I have been saving 55 gallon metal drums from work and storing them in my garage, but have not got them out because of fear of over-use. I suppose it all depends on how many people play the course and how lazy or willful they are...

Tiny 12-13-2012 01:27 AM

I guess it depends on the course.

Z-Boaz is dreadfully filthy, and it's a Disc Golf only course.

On the other hand, Veteran's Park and Bicentennial DGC are both relatively clean. And they are multi-use parks. :/ I don't get it.

Sadjo 12-13-2012 07:24 AM

I've noticed that courses that have no trash cans have very little trash on the course. One of local courses it seems the P&R doesn't dump the trash cans often enough and they are always on overflow. While another local course has plenty of trash cans and the P&R dumps them regularly and we have no issues.

tbird888 12-13-2012 08:33 AM

In this area, we have trash cans spread throughout our courses, often with something (garbage can or 5 gallon bucket) on every hole. We still have garbage littered throughout the course. Seems someone would rather leave an empty can of Monster on the basket than walk to the next tee pad (or two at the most) and throw it in the can. I don't understand why people will carry something around full but refuse when there's no weight involved other than the packaging.

Needless to say, I'm jealous of NC now...and not because you have great courses (we have some too!!).

Stan McDaniel 12-13-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tbird888 (Post 1729342)
Needless to say, I'm jealous of NC now...and not because you have great courses (we have some too!!).

Hell ya you guys have some great courses!!! :clap:

Chef Fini 12-13-2012 08:42 AM

We are lucky out here around Joliet, Il. (about 45 mins southwest of chicago). We have alot of people who care enough about the sport and our courses who regularly volunteer to clean and make repairs to our courses. Highland Park used to be a dumping ground for the locals (sometimes they still do) but our local club (J-Town Disc Golf Club) keeps it looking great. Another nearby course, Community Park in Channahon, has one guy who is out there pretty much every day making sure the course stays beautiful. Probablly the best maintained course around here so a big thank you to Frank Grimes. Just north in Lockport is a private course, Trinity. One main guy and a small group of volunteers also keep the this course in top shape, thank you Thor and all the guys out there. Mokena Park District keeps The Oaks clean as well. Yeah theres garbage because theres always going to be some lazy slob who just throws their trash everywhere, but it's nowhere near as bad as it could be.

Jay Dub 12-13-2012 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tbird888 (Post 1729342)
In this area, we have trash cans spread throughout our courses, often with something (garbage can or 5 gallon bucket) on every hole. We still have garbage littered throughout the course. Seems someone would rather leave an empty can of Monster on the basket than walk to the next tee pad (or two at the most) and throw it in the can. I don't understand why people will carry something around full but refuse when there's no weight involved other than the packaging.

Needless to say, I'm jealous of NC now...and not because you have great courses (we have some too!!).

Do you really think our area has a trash problem on courses? I see cans on baskets sometimes also but I have never been to a local course and thought the trash was out of hand.

Mt Airy goes thru picnic areas, any trash (which is never much) on that course could come from the picnickers.

Stan McDaniel 12-13-2012 09:16 AM

The main problem we have in Charlotte is on the holes that are across creeks or in a remote part of the course where the park dept cannot get a vehicle. We have trash receptacles there, but they fill rapidly. So, it takes a person who really cares about the condition of the park to come in and lug out that big heavy bag of stinky beer cans and bottles. Sometimes those cans sit there overflowing for weeks before someone gets fed up and takes care of the trash.

I don't like carrying a trash bag with me while playing, and my bag does not have hardly any extra space for carrying trash. So, I like to have some receptacles on the course so that I can carry stuff I find to the next tee rather than lug it with me for multiple holes while accumluating more trash. But, is this practice encouraging people to leave their trash on the course or in the containers?

I brought this issue up at our club meeting last night, ergo Tom's post. What I want our club to do is to begin to initiate a culture of "carry in - carry out". I don't have any idea whether or not this can be successful or not, but we discussed putting signs on our courses and getting club members to committ to this and see where it might lead. I hope it leads to no more carrying out heavy stinky dripping bags of trash.

tbird888 12-13-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Dub (Post 1729365)
Do you really think our area has a trash problem on courses? I see cans on baskets sometimes also but I have never been to a local course and thought the trash was out of hand.

Mt Airy goes thru picnic areas, any trash (which is never much) on that course could come from the picnickers.

Maybe I'm just overly sensitive to trash.

My home course is now Winton. Every time I get near the woods on a lie, I find myself picking up a can/bottle or two. Almost every round I play there, I find something on a basket (can, bottle, random piece of trash), usually when a can is on the next tee pad. Idlewild always has overflowing buckets which means there's always trash all over the tee area (haven't been there in a while though so that may have changed). I remember seeing it in the woods too. Bank (my home course for many years) is almost always like Winton, not to mention that I don't know how many times I walked down into the creek to bring 16's can back up. They also seem to have a growing graffitti problem, but it's nothing like 12s tee area at Winton (do we really need 15 - do we even need 1? - disc chargers).

Now that I'm no longer an "All Bank, All The Time!!" thrower, I have noticed that we do have some clean(er) parks. Mason is spotless (super underrated 9 holer). Heritage is too. Airy is a lot cleaner since the pro shop opened. Monroe is actually fairly clean, but I still found myself picking up cans and bottles in the woods a couple weekends ago though). A lot of people use that as a walking path too so it may not be golfers (we'll still get the blame though).


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