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BuzzSharpe 05-24-2013 07:31 AM

This Should Be A Concern
 
There is a subject that is as old as disc golf itself that needs to be addressed by all serious players of the sport. It closed down Wellspring for a time some years back. It is becoming an issue with the governmental goombas of High Point at Johnson Street. I've been told that it might close down part or all of Sloan in Sanford. I imagine that it is an issue at courses in areas with which I have no direct or indirect knowledge.
The issue is indiscreet alcohol consumption on the courses and filling the trash cans with beer cans. I don't drink myself, but I recognize and appreciate the want and wish to enjoy adult beverages while enjoying one's disc golfing. As serious players committed to the continuation and expansion of our beloved sport, we have to police ourselves, as well as those participants, whom I refer to as tourists, usually spoiled brat college students, like those from Elon at the Cedarock courses and from HPU at Johnson Street.
I remember a meeting a few years back planning a new public park in western Alamance County. One of our local pros was recommending installing a new championship level course at the facility. One of the managers from Cedarock Park recommended against it, stating that disc golf was more trouble that it was worth, primarily because of the alcohol issue.
Listen guys, if you want to drink beer or other alcohol while playing, I have no problem with that. It will generally make it easier for me to beat you. If you have room in your bag, cart, or pockets to carry in full bottles or cans, you have room to carry them out when they're empty. And for goodness sake, be aware and intelligent enough to be discreet while consuming.

ForTheGlory 05-24-2013 07:46 AM

Just play like you want to be invited back.

I drink like a fish, but not while I'm playing. It's not like we're playing quarters or anything.

Treat every DG course like a fine woman, with lots of repect and class. Leave it better than when you found it.

We need to build our own reputation.

Lewis 05-24-2013 08:07 AM

It's not easy to teach thoughtless, inconsiderate slobs to change their ways; it's even harder to teach them when they've been drinking, and harder still when you're trying to teach kids at that magical age when they know everything. I'm not saying it can't be done, and it's probably worth the effort, but be aware of the magnitude of the challenge you're up against.

keltik 05-24-2013 08:19 AM

there is a sign up at the entrance of each of these parks saying "no alcoholic beverages allowed". I've seen them with my own eyes. Maybe the parks should be pulled to get the message across.

also I think blaming nameless "spoiled brat" HPU and Elon students is incorrect. The kids that go there generally don't play DG. I've posted before about the local flavor of Johnson Street.

Brall 05-24-2013 08:24 AM

i can understand there being a problem with empty beer cans littering the ground but if the powers that be have a problem with those containers being in the trash receptacle and there's no other problems then they need to loosen up a bit.

1978 05-24-2013 08:48 AM

We've heard similar sentiment in Charlotte, however, check around the parking lot of a softball tournament. They don't even attempt to try and get them in a trashcan, yet you dont hear about this from the park department.


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Originally Posted by Brall (Post 2007726)
i can understand there being a problem with empty beer cans littering the ground but if the powers that be have a problem with those containers being in the trash receptacle and there's no other problems then they need to loosen up a bit.

^ If the policy is no alcoholic beverages, it doesnt matter where the cans are located, in your hand, the ground, trashcan, or the lake.

DavidSauls 05-24-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Brall (Post 2007726)
i can understand there being a problem with empty beer cans littering the ground but if the powers that be have a problem with those containers being in the trash receptacle and there's no other problems then they need to loosen up a bit.

Telling them to loosen up---that there is evidence of substantial illegal activity but at least no litter or other problems---doesn't go over particularly well with local governments and neighbors. Even less when you're also asking them to give you additional land to build new courses.

It's easier to convince them that the "No Alcohol" rules should be changed, than to keep the rule but ignore the violations.

dx_roc 05-24-2013 08:51 AM

our trouble is with HS kids that drink/smoke in the parking lot. they don't even play, just hang out there.

JC17393 05-24-2013 08:52 AM

The attitude of "it's causing no harm so what's the big deal?" is one that is harmful to our sport on so many levels, one of which is this alcohol issue. If it's not allowed, then those that brazenly disregard the law by not only drinking in the park but leaving clear evidence behind in the trash cans are doing the sport no favors. It's selfish behavior, plain and simple. As has been suggested, the drinking doesn't even have to stop, but if you can carry it in, you can carry it out after.

That said, I think there are intermediary steps that the local authorities can take before they reach the point of "pull the course". How about increasing the monitoring of the park? Maybe the simple act of having more of a presence will force the drinkers to go underground or at least force them to be far more discreet. Maybe a few citations, or the clear threat of citations, will wise people up.

dagwood112 05-24-2013 09:06 AM

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