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grodney 08-21-2013 03:23 PM

History: Scott Stokely sets world record for distance
 
Retro Wednesday:

Apr 5 1998, Scott Stokely threw a 167g Discraft XL 211.32m (693.3 ft) to break his own record of 200.01m.

I find the details of the throw to be interesting (only 10mph wind, thrown with anhyzer -- not a hyzer flip).

Scott posted some thoughts to rec.sport.disc (the most active forum on the internet at the time):

>Seriously though, when he's going for maximum distance, is he throwing
>hyzer or anhyzer? (Inside-out vs. outside-in to us ultimate folk.) I
>assume he gets enough power on the disc to make even the most
>overstable one go right in its initial flight, so is his initial
>release a hyzer?

With the XL I released my shot with a slight anhyzer that held for most
of the flight and then faded left at the end (right handed backhand).

> First, the disc. What does it fly like? How overstable is it? Can you
> compare it to other discs in stability (Magnet, Stratus, X2, Cyclone,
> Cyclone 2, X-clone)?

The XL is basically dead stable for long throws and only slightly
overstable medium range. It glides far at the end of its flight, and
doesn't fall off hard. It flies a lot like a stable Cyclone, but
farther.

> Now, The Throw. Did you do a 360? What do estimate the release angle
> was (20 degree hyzer, very slight hyzer, flat, 30 degree anhyzer)? If
> you released with hyzer, did it flatten, did it turn right? At the end
> of the flight, was it gliding left, falling left, gliding right, going
> straight? How high did you throw it (flat, 5 degrees, 10 degrees, 30
> degrees)? What do you think the wind did to it, if anything?

Yes, I did a 360 and released with approximately 20 degrees of anhyzer
angle. It held its exact line for about 150 meters before slowly
turning back left. It ended its flight striking the ground nearly flat.
The wind did not effect it much because it was only 8 to 10 miles per
hour. It did not however hurt me, due to the fact that it blew in the
right direction.

> Where is The Disc (the specific one used) now? What is its future?

All five discs were 169 grams. When I reached the landing spot of the
record, the markers handed me the record disc along with the other four.
I then mixed in the record disc with the rest and shuffled them around
until I didn't know which one was THE ONE. This way, I can send one to
my mother, one to Discraft, one to my godfather, one for Christi, and
one for me. This way we can all share a piece of the record (plus I
don't have to pick who gets THE DISC).

KRATC 08-21-2013 03:35 PM

Thanks for sharing, this was neat!

smyith 08-21-2013 03:40 PM

i always thought that the distance record should only be official if there is no wind/calm. I kind of can't accept Wiggins as having the legit record. I wonder what conditions were like for Sandstroms throw.

SpringDgLover 08-21-2013 04:24 PM

Sandstroms throw was also super windy. All major distance records have been set in high winds. Thats why the world indoor record is only 471' and has stood for about 20 years.

notroman 08-21-2013 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpringDgLover (Post 2140525)
Sandstroms throw was also super windy. All major distance records have been set in high winds. Thats why the world indoor record is only 471' and has stood for about 20 years.

How often do people try to challenge this record? I mean guys are throwing over 500 into a headwind these days...

biscoe 08-21-2013 04:30 PM

stokely was amazing. he set the record with what was then an extremely overstable disc (xclone) and then broke it with something which flew radically differently (XL).

tampabay 08-21-2013 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notroman (Post 2140530)
How often do people try to challenge this record? I mean guys are throwing over 500 into a headwind these days...

500' on the course is usually anywhere between 460-500, people rarely underestimate. The problem is it has to be an exact 471, I'd say very very few people can do it, if any.

How often are the shots actually measured when pros drive? And using the distance for the hole assumes that the hole was measured accurately, which isn't a valid assumption.

zenbot 08-21-2013 04:33 PM

Great post, Grodney!

Rob Martin 08-21-2013 04:34 PM

Awhile back I tried to do some research on Stokely. Whatever happened to him? Seems like he just kind of fell of the earth.

notroman 08-21-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tampabay (Post 2140535)
500' on the course is usually anywhere between 460-500, people rarely underestimate. The problem is it has to be an exact 471, I'd say very very few people can do it, if any.

How often are the shots actually measured when pros drive? And using the distance for the hole assumes that the hole was measured accurately, which isn't a valid assumption.

I'm talking about actual distance competitions at big events. There have been several instances recently where the wind was a headwind, or calm, and the winning distances are all well over 500. Even if the measurements are off, I don't think they're off by 50 feet or more.


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