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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 04-10-2015, 03:45 PM
Replies: 95
Views: 6,659
Posted By shive
to JC17393: The number of rounds has dropped...

to JC17393:

The number of rounds has dropped from 8 to 5. That is a 40% decrease. You say one round was dropped because of "circumstances". There are always circumstances. Is it likely that...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 04-09-2015, 08:12 AM
Replies: 95
Views: 6,659
Posted By shive
It seems that most respondents like the kinder,...

It seems that most respondents like the kinder, gentler format. And this is a self-corrective issue. Those who like it will be more likely to attend in the future, and those who don’t will seek...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 04-06-2015, 11:27 AM
Replies: 95
Views: 6,659
Posted By shive
The Magical Disappearing Worlds

Now you see it, and now you don't.

At Pro Worlds, as recently as 2004, most divisions had eight preliminary (before the semis) rounds over the period Tuesday-Friday. Then it went to seven (2003...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 02-07-2015, 03:11 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
to MikeK: Read post #81 again. I have not...

to MikeK:

Read post #81 again. I have not formally defined a Divisional Tour this year. I have made a series of general comments to help members find their own senior-friendly events. Except...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-27-2015, 04:15 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
to biscoe, chuck, BgWvDave and jc17393: That...

to biscoe, chuck, BgWvDave and jc17393:

That would be great. I hope that you are right.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-27-2015, 01:14 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
To MikeK: This year is different, in the...

To MikeK:

This year is different, in the sense that I haven’t defined a tour. Every other year I asked the newsgroup members to nominate events they thought were “senior-friendly”. Then I sent a...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-27-2015, 11:37 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
to grodney: It’s funny how, after we choose...

to grodney:

It’s funny how, after we choose to join in a member category that plays for money and pay a dues premium to do so, some people say we shouldn’t care about money. Maybe we don’t make...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-27-2015, 10:06 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
To grodney: You asked a simple question. ...

To grodney:

You asked a simple question. Why would anybody add cash to a protected division? Here’s the simple answer. For the same reason they would add cash to an Open division. To attract...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-26-2015, 04:50 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
to Discette: Very thoughtful post. I too...

to Discette:

Very thoughtful post. I too would like to see the results of a 40+ poll such as the one you describe.

You asked me which payout table I personally would prefer, 40% or 50%. One...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-26-2015, 12:31 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
To David Sauls: The “tiered entry fee”...

To David Sauls:

The “tiered entry fee” question is often very confusing to people. About a quarter of the TD’s I have talked to about it did not realize the implications for the 40+ pros paying a...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-26-2015, 11:27 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
To Chuck and David Sauls: We have overlap. ...

To Chuck and David Sauls:

We have overlap. I totally agree with you that the TD’s should be the court of last resort, and that TD’s should not be constrained by the PDGA any more than they...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-25-2015, 06:22 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
Chuck: The vote I propose could be for...

Chuck:

The vote I propose could be for Worlds, or it could be for general 40+ pro play. I'd prefer a vote on the general question, but am easy either way. You claimed that I am following an...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-25-2015, 05:56 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
to ru4por: You are listed, at least at...

to ru4por:

You are listed, at least at present, as an amateur. I would expect that every amateur would vote for a kinder, gentler format, with less risk and no concern about winning money, as...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-25-2015, 03:30 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
to Chuck, ru4por and Steve West: Sorry,...

to Chuck, ru4por and Steve West:

Sorry, Chuck. I misinterpreted your comment. When you said “proportional”, you didn’t specify “to what”, and I wrongly assumed “to the number of players”.

One...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-25-2015, 10:49 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
To Chuck: You say that the default...

To Chuck:

You say that the default expectation in lower-tier events is that the added cash would be distributed on a per-capita basis. Not so.

Look at the tour standards. The PDGA recommends...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-24-2015, 05:04 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
To DavidSauls: You say, “In other words,...

To DavidSauls:

You say, “In other words, the ultimate Senior-friendly event is a single-division, Open-only event. It meets all the criteria.” Indeed it does. However, it has a problem with...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-24-2015, 11:31 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
to Steve West: My goodness. Relax. Of...

to Steve West:

My goodness. Relax. Of course not every tournament. The divisional tour is just a flyspeck on the PDGA calendar. I have never listed more than 15 events, and aren't looking for...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-24-2015, 10:56 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
to JC17393: You are actually following PDGA...

to JC17393:

You are actually following PDGA guidelines for "suggested" entry fees, and many TD’s (like you) put most or all the added cash into the Open divisions. I have no problem with this,...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-24-2015, 10:23 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
to biscoe: A combination of both. Some of...

to biscoe:

A combination of both. Some of the “money” items come from the personal experience of giving money to events over the years with the proviso that it be shared equally on a per capita...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-24-2015, 08:18 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 4,303
Posted By shive
How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

A senior-friendly event is one in which your division is not treated worse than any other Pro division. Here are some simple tests:

1) Look at the entry fees for the different Pro divisions. Are...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-19-2015, 12:37 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,984
Posted By shive
to new members: I have just sent a...

to new members:

I have just sent a "welcome" message to all of you who signed up for our newsgroup. To get you up to speed, it includes a comparison between the premises of this newsgroup and...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-17-2015, 04:59 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,984
Posted By shive
to Chuck: This is the wrong place for your...

to Chuck:

This is the wrong place for your argument. You and I have argued this point for years, and my views are well known, to you and to others. You know that I consider myself to be a pro,...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-17-2015, 11:57 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,984
Posted By shive
euphemisms and the jargon police

to Chuck:

You refer to the majority of DivisionalTour Newsgroup members as “the better amateur players in each age range (who) are allowed/choose to play for cash”.

Perhaps someday in the...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-16-2015, 05:58 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,984
Posted By shive
to ru4por: That sounds like a great...

to ru4por:

That sounds like a great organization. Perhaps the amateur forums have less need for a national presence, since amateurs travel less on the average. Still, it might be nice if you...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-16-2015, 03:38 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,984
Posted By shive
Amateur or Pro?

I would say that the Divisional Tour Newsgroup is of far more immediate interest to older pros than older amateurs. I concentrate on concerns of pros, probably because I am a pro myself and...
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