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Forum: Technique & Strategy 12-12-2014, 11:21 PM
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Posted By Doofenshmirtz
I don't blame you. I wouldn't want to try to...

I don't blame you. I wouldn't want to try to respond either.
Forum: Technique & Strategy 12-12-2014, 11:21 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
The effect is what has been caused. But this is...

The effect is what has been caused. But this is too semantic to worry about. There seems to be little disagreement here, unless you still think that OAT imparts turning momentum on an axis other than...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 12-12-2014, 10:44 PM
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Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
Do you think that the disc is stretching or...

Do you think that the disc is stretching or flexing during that pull? I certainly wouldn't say that the disc is stretched 3" or maybe I'm misunderstanding what is being claimed. The disc is clearly...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 12-12-2014, 10:09 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
Notice that it is from a video. You should check...

Notice that it is from a video. You should check out the rods.

Like I said, I'll believe it when I see high speed video, not single, low shutter speed, video capture or stills (like the warped...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 12-12-2014, 09:46 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
Any links to the high speed film?

Any links to the high speed film?
Forum: Technique & Strategy 12-12-2014, 04:07 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
You can do anything you want to the disc (within...

You can do anything you want to the disc (within reason and your capabilities) while it is in your hand. To describe it as spinning in your hand makes little sense. You may as well describe your hand...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 12-12-2014, 11:59 AM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
Compression in the disc? Maybe. Friction that...

Compression in the disc? Maybe. Friction that increased the temperature of the surface of the disc where the finger touched? Sure. Expansion of that part of the disc due to heat from friction? Sure....
Forum: Technique & Strategy 12-11-2014, 03:37 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
That's what happens. And it resulted...

That's what happens.



And it resulted in nothing more than changing the angle between the plane of the disc and the single axis of rotation resulting in . . . wobble.
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Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-30-2014, 08:50 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
A lower spin rate would certainly make the disc...

A lower spin rate would certainly make the disc act more understable.
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-30-2014, 12:07 AM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
You seem to be invested in something being...

You seem to be invested in something being possible that simply isn't. I certainly understand the appeal of the feel of rolling your wrist over and after release seing the disc seem to keep turning...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-28-2014, 12:30 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
I don't know if wobble makes a disc fly...

I don't know if wobble makes a disc fly understable or not. I think it keeps a disc from flying either under or over stable until the wobble resolves.

However, as long as we agree that OAT can...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-28-2014, 12:09 AM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
If you made more sense ("single direction of...

If you made more sense ("single direction of travel given upon release" WTF?) it might be helpful to point out that you are apprently arguing something completely different than the post you are...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-27-2014, 10:07 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
This is where you are going off the rails. A free...

This is where you are going off the rails. A free spinning object, like a disc that is no longer in your hand can only have one axis of rotation. There is no "competition for dominance" among that...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-27-2014, 07:46 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
I'm curious as to why you think that. There is a...

I'm curious as to why you think that. There is a difference between what a disc does and why it does it. We are arguing about the "why." What realy world experiences do you have regarding that "why."
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-27-2014, 07:38 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
A baseball is a sphere. It doesn't have...

A baseball is a sphere. It doesn't have aerodynamic stability and doesn't need it. Spin it, don't spin it, it will still travel in the general direction in which it is thrown.

Take your disc and...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-27-2014, 04:23 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
No, a discs aerodynamic stability comes from the...

No, a discs aerodynamic stability comes from the gyroscopic stability as a result of its spin. If that stability "kept the downward portion of the disc downward" it would not be possible to induce...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-27-2014, 12:08 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
Yes, that is the popular misconception of OAT....

Yes, that is the popular misconception of OAT. OAT only causes wobble. You cannot impart an off axis torque that makes the "left edge rise way after it has left your hand" because that would mean...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-26-2014, 05:48 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,974
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
Hold on. The trade-off for lift is drag. Lift...

Hold on. The trade-off for lift is drag. Lift does not propel the disc forward, it actually slows the disc more than if there were no lift.

A golf disc thrown flat generates lift. The more lift,...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-26-2014, 11:36 AM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
I've always thought that wobble prevents the disc...

I've always thought that wobble prevents the disc from exhibiting its ordinary stability properties. So, if thrown flat, an overstable disc will just fly straight until the wobble resolves and then...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-25-2014, 09:50 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
If you go back and read through this thread and...

If you go back and read through this thread and others where "OAT" is discussed, you will see that many, many people have the misconception that "OAT" causes a cleanly released disc to "fly more...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 11-25-2014, 12:27 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 2,913
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
3.5 miles per round? Do you walk to the course? ...

3.5 miles per round? Do you walk to the course?

Or am I just way off on estimating how much I walk during a round? My home course is around 7,000 feet long. I may walk an average of 150 feet...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-25-2014, 12:17 AM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
The disc is one, monolithic piece of plastic....

The disc is one, monolithic piece of plastic. Once it leaves your hand, it can only rotate about one axis as a result of the forces that you have applied to it. You can make it wobble, but you cannot...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-24-2014, 10:07 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
Do you think that you can apply torque to the...

Do you think that you can apply torque to the disc after you release it?



But only as long as it is in your hand. Once it leaves your hand it will rotate only about one axis as a result of the...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-24-2014, 09:47 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
It's probably both, causing the disc to leave...

It's probably both, causing the disc to leave your hand slightly more nose down and slightly anhyzer which explains the turn to the right as opposed to some magical, second and discrete axis of...
Forum: Technique & Strategy 11-24-2014, 07:47 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 6,938
Posted By Doofenshmirtz
The problem with using precession as an...

The problem with using precession as an explanation for something at OAT cannot cause, is that even assuming that some off axis force can act on the z axis after release is that it would cause the...
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