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Forum: Discs 11-13-2014, 03:47 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 624
Posted By Oklahyzer
That's a shot that takes some finesse to learn...

That's a shot that takes some finesse to learn and perform consistently with some discs and little changes in nose angle make a big difference especially at lower power, as does the amount of spin on...
Forum: Discs 11-13-2014, 03:33 AM
Replies: 45
Views: 1,491
Posted By Oklahyzer
Because you mention the hss, I'm going to suggest...

Because you mention the hss, I'm going to suggest a Verdict. If you have decent snap then it won't fade a lot for you, but it will have dependable fade in all but the strongest crosswinds and the...
Forum: Discs 10-26-2014, 02:37 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 1,334
Posted By Oklahyzer
Based on that, pick up a dx Stingray and enjoy...

Based on that, pick up a dx Stingray and enjoy it. The discraft Stratus is also a great choice in the elite X plastic. All of the other flippy discs mentioned here may not be what you want until...
Forum: Discs 10-10-2014, 02:51 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 2,196
Posted By Oklahyzer
Get a QMS. Has just enough hss to handle some...

Get a QMS. Has just enough hss to handle some flat power but not too much so it won't ride an anny. Very underrated disc.
Forum: Discs 09-20-2014, 01:07 AM
Replies: 123
Views: 4,186
Posted By Oklahyzer
Ok then. PLH it is. :)

Ok then. PLH it is. :)
Forum: Discs 09-19-2014, 01:54 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 2,476
Posted By Oklahyzer
I bought the light 167 on purpose just to test...

I bought the light 167 on purpose just to test the hss and compare with heavier ones...no real difference even in the wind. I usually like my mids heavy but this one is an exception. Picked up a...
Forum: Discs 09-19-2014, 01:47 AM
Replies: 123
Views: 4,186
Posted By Oklahyzer
One other thing to keep in mind is that while...

One other thing to keep in mind is that while everyone is focusing on the external faces of a mold design, what is going on inside the cavity on the underside of the disc has a lot of influence on...
Forum: Discs 09-19-2014, 01:26 AM
Replies: 123
Views: 4,186
Posted By Oklahyzer
I think what you guys are calling PLH in...

I think what you guys are calling PLH in discussions about stability in disc design is where you're off. Nobody disputes PLH in molding and how it can affect one design from run to run...but it is...
Forum: Discs 09-18-2014, 12:53 AM
Replies: 123
Views: 4,186
Posted By Oklahyzer
Not to pick nits in a bead thread which has gone...

Not to pick nits in a bead thread which has gone far beyond silly, but this statement about PLH is...wth. You might need to study up on PLH to understand it better. It is useful for comparing ONE...
Forum: Discs 09-16-2014, 03:11 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 2,476
Posted By Oklahyzer
I recently gave the Verdict a try for this same...

I recently gave the Verdict a try for this same slot and I'm glad I did. Verdict has some good true hss and the fade isn't that bad...not like a Drone/Hornet/Gator/Viper fade, but healthy. In very...
Forum: Discs 09-11-2014, 09:07 PM
Replies: 908
Views: 63,471
Posted By Oklahyzer
Ok, good deal. Yeah, the Verdict (and the rest of...

Ok, good deal. Yeah, the Verdict (and the rest of these discs mentioned) will hold a great hyzer even in most winds. Verdict isn't especially sensitive but the fade is more pronounced with hyzer or...
Forum: Discs 09-11-2014, 12:59 PM
Replies: 908
Views: 63,471
Posted By Oklahyzer
Everything is a teebird. :)

Everything is a teebird. :)
Forum: Discs 09-11-2014, 03:16 AM
Replies: 908
Views: 63,471
Posted By Oklahyzer
Verdict is between the two categories, and Hornet...

Verdict is between the two categories, and Hornet belongs more with the Vector except it has a lot more fade...about the same hss, though. Many of these "0" hss ratings aren't quite accurate...
Forum: Discs 09-10-2014, 03:17 AM
Replies: 908
Views: 63,471
Posted By Oklahyzer
Another nice thing about the Verdict is that it's...

Another nice thing about the Verdict is that it's very low profile and beadless...closer match in the hand to the Core that you're used to. Vector, Pain, Wasp, Hornet, Roc...they all pretty much...
Forum: Discs 09-10-2014, 03:08 AM
Replies: 908
Views: 63,471
Posted By Oklahyzer
The Vector might fill this for you but I'd...

The Vector might fill this for you but I'd recommend a Pain instead. The Vector - even the good ones - will turn on you at times especially if you don't have clean form and good snap on the disc. ...
Forum: Discs 09-09-2014, 01:38 AM
Replies: 59
Views: 3,216
Posted By Oklahyzer
Hard to beat a Comet or a QMS...and maybe a good...

Hard to beat a Comet or a QMS...and maybe a good Dart. Core probably should be in there, too. Those charts are always subjective and I don't think any of them are particularly accurate for...
Forum: Discs 09-07-2014, 06:11 PM
Replies: 633
Views: 45,135
Posted By Oklahyzer
If I were to rank them from least to most in...

If I were to rank them from least to most in terms of hss only, given a strong flat throw with those winds, it would be like this: Vector/SM Roc/z Wasp, Hornet, Pain (either plastic, not much...
Forum: Discs 09-07-2014, 06:05 PM
Replies: 633
Views: 45,135
Posted By Oklahyzer
Brand new Z...have pretty good form except for...

Brand new Z...have pretty good form except for the days where I don't! Throwing them all in repeated tests in high winds (head and fade-side crosswinds) the Hornet just doesn't do it as well. Not a...
Forum: Discs 09-07-2014, 05:33 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 2,406
Posted By Oklahyzer
Great all around disc, but I don't think the Buzz...

Great all around disc, but I don't think the Buzz really shines until you power it up a little, and I would guess that most people in this group won't be throwing with good form and stronger power. ...
Forum: Discs 09-07-2014, 05:24 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 989
Posted By Oklahyzer
There are flippy Saints but those still aren't...

There are flippy Saints but those still aren't quite like a Valk even though it's a really nice disc. Most are more like a Viking - which is probably the most underrated disc Innova ever put out and...
Forum: Discs 09-07-2014, 05:13 PM
Replies: 633
Views: 45,135
Posted By Oklahyzer
Gracias fellas. Sounds like sticking with the...

Gracias fellas. Sounds like sticking with the Verdict will work best for me but I have this nagging urge to pick up a BOS just to try it! I've tried a lot of os mids and I have to say the Verdict is...
Forum: Discs 09-07-2014, 05:03 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 519
Posted By Oklahyzer
A good stable champ Teebird is a thing of beauty...

A good stable champ Teebird is a thing of beauty and can handle most of the duties a Firebird/FL does until the wind really gets howling, where it might track off a little or not give the fade you...
Forum: Discs 09-07-2014, 02:22 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 2,406
Posted By Oklahyzer
Also, I'd give a nod to the Lycan. It was a flop...

Also, I'd give a nod to the Lycan. It was a flop for the market but it's actually a pretty nice disc. The hss is decent, the fade is low, and it has a good feel in the hand for most people. Little...
Forum: Discs 09-07-2014, 02:18 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 2,406
Posted By Oklahyzer
dx XD. If they're total noobs then it won't be...

dx XD. If they're total noobs then it won't be too understable. Works ok as a putter and can give good distance. If there are stronger throwers in the group they can quickly learn a comfortable...
Forum: Discs 09-06-2014, 07:09 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 626
Posted By Oklahyzer
I have to disagree with this. I live in big wind...

I have to disagree with this. I live in big wind country and had always heard this wisdom since I started throwing. It's such a belief that the shops here all pretty much stock max weight and it's...
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