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Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-27-2015, 05:15 PM
Replies: 86
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Posted By shive
to biscoe, chuck, BgWvDave and jc17393: That...

to biscoe, chuck, BgWvDave and jc17393:

That would be great. I hope that you are right.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-27-2015, 02:14 PM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
To MikeK: This year is different, in the...

To MikeK:

This year is different, in the sense that I haven’t defined a tour. Every other year I asked the newsgroup members to nominate events they thought were “senior-friendly”. Then I sent a...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-27-2015, 12:37 PM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
to grodney: It’s funny how, after we choose...

to grodney:

It’s funny how, after we choose to join in a member category that plays for money and pay a dues premium to do so, some people say we shouldn’t care about money. Maybe we don’t make...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-27-2015, 11:06 AM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
To grodney: You asked a simple question. ...

To grodney:

You asked a simple question. Why would anybody add cash to a protected division? Here’s the simple answer. For the same reason they would add cash to an Open division. To attract...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-26-2015, 05:50 PM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
to Discette: Very thoughtful post. I too...

to Discette:

Very thoughtful post. I too would like to see the results of a 40+ poll such as the one you describe.

You asked me which payout table I personally would prefer, 40% or 50%. One...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-26-2015, 01:31 PM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
To David Sauls: The “tiered entry fee”...

To David Sauls:

The “tiered entry fee” question is often very confusing to people. About a quarter of the TD’s I have talked to about it did not realize the implications for the 40+ pros paying a...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-26-2015, 12:27 PM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
To Chuck and David Sauls: We have overlap. ...

To Chuck and David Sauls:

We have overlap. I totally agree with you that the TD’s should be the court of last resort, and that TD’s should not be constrained by the PDGA any more than they...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-25-2015, 07:22 PM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
Chuck: The vote I propose could be for...

Chuck:

The vote I propose could be for Worlds, or it could be for general 40+ pro play. I'd prefer a vote on the general question, but am easy either way. You claimed that I am following an...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-25-2015, 06:56 PM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
to ru4por: You are listed, at least at...

to ru4por:

You are listed, at least at present, as an amateur. I would expect that every amateur would vote for a kinder, gentler format, with less risk and no concern about winning money, as...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-25-2015, 04:30 PM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
to Chuck, ru4por and Steve West: Sorry,...

to Chuck, ru4por and Steve West:

Sorry, Chuck. I misinterpreted your comment. When you said “proportional”, you didn’t specify “to what”, and I wrongly assumed “to the number of players”.

One...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-25-2015, 11:49 AM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
To Chuck: You say that the default...

To Chuck:

You say that the default expectation in lower-tier events is that the added cash would be distributed on a per-capita basis. Not so.

Look at the tour standards. The PDGA recommends...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-24-2015, 06:04 PM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
To DavidSauls: You say, “In other words,...

To DavidSauls:

You say, “In other words, the ultimate Senior-friendly event is a single-division, Open-only event. It meets all the criteria.” Indeed it does. However, it has a problem with...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-24-2015, 12:31 PM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
to Steve West: My goodness. Relax. Of...

to Steve West:

My goodness. Relax. Of course not every tournament. The divisional tour is just a flyspeck on the PDGA calendar. I have never listed more than 15 events, and aren't looking for...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-24-2015, 11:56 AM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
to JC17393: You are actually following PDGA...

to JC17393:

You are actually following PDGA guidelines for "suggested" entry fees, and many TD’s (like you) put most or all the added cash into the Open divisions. I have no problem with this,...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-24-2015, 11:23 AM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
to biscoe: A combination of both. Some of...

to biscoe:

A combination of both. Some of the “money” items come from the personal experience of giving money to events over the years with the proviso that it be shared equally on a per capita...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-24-2015, 09:18 AM
Replies: 86
Views: 2,419
Posted By shive
How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

A senior-friendly event is one in which your division is not treated worse than any other Pro division. Here are some simple tests:

1) Look at the entry fees for the different Pro divisions. Are...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-19-2015, 01:37 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,622
Posted By shive
to new members: I have just sent a...

to new members:

I have just sent a "welcome" message to all of you who signed up for our newsgroup. To get you up to speed, it includes a comparison between the premises of this newsgroup and...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-17-2015, 05:59 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,622
Posted By shive
to Chuck: This is the wrong place for your...

to Chuck:

This is the wrong place for your argument. You and I have argued this point for years, and my views are well known, to you and to others. You know that I consider myself to be a pro,...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-17-2015, 12:57 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,622
Posted By shive
euphemisms and the jargon police

to Chuck:

You refer to the majority of DivisionalTour Newsgroup members as “the better amateur players in each age range (who) are allowed/choose to play for cash”.

Perhaps someday in the...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-16-2015, 06:58 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,622
Posted By shive
to ru4por: That sounds like a great...

to ru4por:

That sounds like a great organization. Perhaps the amateur forums have less need for a national presence, since amateurs travel less on the average. Still, it might be nice if you...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-16-2015, 04:38 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,622
Posted By shive
Amateur or Pro?

I would say that the Divisional Tour Newsgroup is of far more immediate interest to older pros than older amateurs. I concentrate on concerns of pros, probably because I am a pro myself and...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 01-16-2015, 01:17 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,622
Posted By shive
Will you be over 40 in 2015?

Consider these six statements:

1) You will be 40 or older in 2015.
2) You would much rather play disc golf competitively than watch somebody else play it.
3) You enjoy a challenge, and don't...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 08-29-2014, 12:24 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,546
Posted By shive
Setting the record straight

The PDGA reports (http://www.pdga.com/unbelievably-epic-day-disc-golf) that I have now won thirteen Pro Worlds Championships in all. That is incorrect. I have won twelve, nine MPS and three MPL. ...
Forum: Tournaments 12-03-2013, 06:22 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 793
Posted By shive
to chrishysell: I would say that our...

to chrishysell:

I would say that our emphasis is on the over-40 Pros, in the sense that our criteria are more aligned with concerns that Pros would have. For example, we look very closely at how...
Forum: Tournaments 12-03-2013, 06:12 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 793
Posted By shive
to rainachritie: The Divisional Tour is...

to rainachritie:

The Divisional Tour is member-driven. Members nominate events that they believe are "senior-friendly". We send the TD's a questionnaire, look more closely at the criteria that...
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