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Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion Yesterday, 06:38 PM
Replies: 141
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Posted By JC17393
As I recall, Tiger's incident was at the Masters...

As I recall, Tiger's incident was at the Masters and it was not a DQ. He took a two-stroke penalty for the misplay. The DQ was ruled out because the tournament committee reviewed his misplay before...
Forum: Tournaments 07-28-2014, 08:41 PM
Replies: 652
Views: 45,931
Posted By JC17393
Without pars and OB information, can it really be...

Without pars and OB information, can it really be called a "caddy book"? That stuff is the whole point of a caddy book, isn't it?
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-28-2014, 08:35 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 3,989
Posted By JC17393
They have to turn in the paper scorecard at the...

They have to turn in the paper scorecard at the end of the round, and it has to be completed (individual hole scores and a total score for each player in the group). If the group decides to score...
Forum: Tournaments 07-27-2014, 12:02 PM
Replies: 1,310
Views: 200,698
Posted By JC17393
The trouble with this debate is players live in...

The trouble with this debate is players live in the moment don't have the benefit of video evidence. And even if they did, it is against the current rules of play to use video as "proof" of a...
Forum: Tournaments 07-26-2014, 06:50 PM
Replies: 652
Views: 45,931
Posted By JC17393
Those look like Chainstars to me. Most assuredly...

Those look like Chainstars to me. Most assuredly they are not single chain.
Forum: Tournaments 07-26-2014, 05:18 PM
Replies: 652
Views: 45,931
Posted By JC17393
For about 90% of the attendees, that's what...

For about 90% of the attendees, that's what Worlds is...a disc golf convention. A lot of playing, but a lot of socializing, trading, talking, etc. Other than the top 10% of about every division, it...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-25-2014, 09:20 AM
Replies: 141
Views: 3,989
Posted By JC17393
I've been to courses where there is no service on...

I've been to courses where there is no service on a good chunk of the course. The more rural, the more likely of no signal. Also the denser the foliage or more significant the elevation in the...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-25-2014, 08:49 AM
Replies: 141
Views: 3,989
Posted By JC17393
David wasn't just proposing scorekeeping, he was...

David wasn't just proposing scorekeeping, he was proposing a dream scenario in which scores are recorded by the group electronically, sent to a central location/database, and automatically updated in...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-24-2014, 05:12 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 3,989
Posted By JC17393
I don't think anyone feels there isn't room for...

I don't think anyone feels there isn't room for improvement in all facets of the tournament experience. I think the so-called "pessimists" believe that on the list of things that can be done to...
Forum: Tournaments 07-24-2014, 09:18 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 439
Posted By JC17393
Marshall Street's been doing it for years for New...

Marshall Street's been doing it for years for New England tournaments. I imagine they've also done it for others.

I imagine you can probably work a deal with any of them, really.
Forum: Course Design 07-24-2014, 09:08 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 646
Posted By JC17393
This is dead on. But I'd also add that often...

This is dead on. But I'd also add that often designers are limited by what land they can use, particularly in a park setting. Courses have to be fit into the space designated and take into account...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-23-2014, 04:28 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 3,989
Posted By JC17393
The rule was no penalty, and then it was changed...

The rule was no penalty, and then it was changed to incur a penalty. There was enough cause for the rules committee and the PDGA powers that be to add the penalty to the rules. Since then, there...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-23-2014, 04:15 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 3,989
Posted By JC17393
It's illegal because someone way back in the late...

It's illegal because someone way back in the late 80s decided that keeping score was an important responsibility for players, and getting players to total their cards was important enough to penalize...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-23-2014, 03:25 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 2,855
Posted By JC17393
My favorite MPO player is me, myself, and I. ...

My favorite MPO player is me, myself, and I.

If I'm not competing, then I don't have a favorite other than whoever is going to put on a good show by playing well and playing in a mature,...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-23-2014, 03:19 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 3,989
Posted By JC17393
I still fail to see what benefit there is in...

I still fail to see what benefit there is in this, other than it's one less thing for the players to do and it allows them to run off to the parking lot to go to lunch or drink a beer or whatever...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-23-2014, 12:57 PM
Replies: 126
Views: 5,352
Posted By JC17393
It's gambling in the sense that you're playing...

It's gambling in the sense that you're playing for your competitors' money rather than some outside purse. That's the same sense that labels poker as gambling.

And there's only so much control...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-23-2014, 11:52 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 938
Posted By JC17393
I have to disagree with you on the bolded. On...

I have to disagree with you on the bolded. On hole 1 or hole 5 or hole 14, there are bail-out options early. There are no such bail-out options on hole 8. Perhaps from the red tee, which is also...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-23-2014, 11:28 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 875
Posted By JC17393
Bingo. And it's not like it's new anymore. The...

Bingo. And it's not like it's new anymore. The "patient-zero" tournament from which the original ratings were derived was in 1998. Ratings were first introduced as a divisional guideline in 2002. ...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-22-2014, 04:17 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 3,989
Posted By JC17393
I'd still like to read a convincing argument as...

I'd still like to read a convincing argument as to why players shouldn't be responsible for adding their own card, and why not requiring them to do that math is "better" for the game. "Because ball...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-21-2014, 08:32 PM
Replies: 126
Views: 5,352
Posted By JC17393
I was joking a bit, but I'm also calling...

I was joking a bit, but I'm also calling attention to exactly what you're saying. Like oddjob posted, "sandbagging" is largely a myth. A myth created by the effect of players playing up.

The...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-21-2014, 07:54 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 3,989
Posted By JC17393
Why can't it be both? I think players should add...

Why can't it be both? I think players should add their own damn scorecards because they should add their own damn scorecards. That it makes life easier for the TD, whether it's the only event he...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-21-2014, 07:25 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 3,989
Posted By JC17393
Until TDs are compensated at tournaments as well...

Until TDs are compensated at tournaments as well as the best players are, I'm going to advocate anything that makes their job easier.

Good TDs are hard to come by. Players are a dime a dozen.
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-21-2014, 07:09 PM
Replies: 126
Views: 5,352
Posted By JC17393
It's the lower-rated players playing up that...

It's the lower-rated players playing up that makes those playing in their ratings-appropriate division look like sandbaggers. Hence a sandbagger "problem".

Duh.

:p
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 07-21-2014, 07:06 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 3,989
Posted By JC17393
You're really not going to win people over here...

You're really not going to win people over here by essentially saying that TDs need to do more so players have to do less.

Totaling a scorecard is not a difficult thing to do. Having 72 people do...
Forum: General Disc Golf Chat 07-21-2014, 05:50 PM
Replies: 126
Views: 5,352
Posted By JC17393
There aren't nearly enough players to support a...

There aren't nearly enough players to support a division in which you must "earn" your way in. And even if there were, you'd need far more outside support for the purse in such a division for it to...
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